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Jun 23, 2018 15:24:08   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
No. They are full of democrats.


Democrats and Republicans have more in common than what separates them. Neither represent the best interests of the country, which is nothing if not the people. Both parties are self serving and do or say what ever suits their purpose at the time. I feel for you and others if this escapes your perception.

The problems we face need intelligent, effective solutions and not windows dressing on systems rather than addressing the root causes.
So many voting based on sound bites, misconceptions and bigotry and have no clue what its all about. Yay party!

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Jun 23, 2018 15:27:02   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
joer wrote:
Democrats and Republicans have more in common than what separates them. Neither represent the best interests of the country, which is nothing if not the people. Both parties are self serving and do or say what ever suits their purpose at the time. I feel for you and others if this escapes your perception.

The problems we face need intelligent, effective solutions and not windows dressing on systems rather than addressing the root causes.
So many voting based on sound bites, misconceptions and bigotry and have no clue what its all about. Yay party!
Democrats and Republicans have more in common than... (show quote)


http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/40548-never-attempt-to-teach-a-pig-to-sing-it-wastes

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Jun 23, 2018 15:54:58   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
joer wrote:
Democrats and Republicans have more in common than what separates them. Neither represent the best interests of the country, which is nothing if not the people. Both parties are self serving and do or say what ever suits their purpose at the time. I feel for you and others if this escapes your perception.

The problems we face need intelligent, effective solutions and not windows dressing on systems rather than addressing the root causes.
So many voting based on sound bites, misconceptions and bigotry and have no clue what its all about. Yay party!
Democrats and Republicans have more in common than... (show quote)


In today’s world of lying fake media it is difficult to get at the truth for anyone. I agree that both parties say whatever suits them at the time, and I very much include elected officials in that. I think I pretty much agree with your assessment.

The lies need to stop in Congress, the Senate, the Hill, the DOJ, the FBI, etc, include whomever you want in that. We should all be bothered by an elected official who had a firm position on an issue under obama and says the polar opposite under Trump. Demand to know why. Same for ANY Presidents, when they completely reverse position, there is no accountability. This has to start at the top. Elected officials need to be held accountable. I do not believe Trump colluded with Russians to win the election, but if it is proven he did, I wouldn’t support him. Most will support their party no matter what laws were broken, and call the other guy a liar. We do not demand accountability from elected officials and there is the double whammy of fake lying media reporting their liberal opinions as fact, and never reporting anything that could reflect positive on Trump. We have 90 percent positive coverage for obama and 90 percent negative for Trump. How can anyone say there is no bias in the media?

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Jun 23, 2018 16:00:24   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Really little Tard AKA Howdy Doody, better pack up and get out while you can. Next thing you know democrats will say he is going to round them up and put them in camps and then kill them. Gonna be a long 8 years for you.


Sounds like you still suffer from the abuse.

You never forgave him, did you?

You really need to make a call.

You Can be happy again.

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Jun 23, 2018 16:02:38   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
I disagree, he is doing what we elected him to do. You say he would be gone if not for the spineless people in both parties. What did he do that you believe he could be removed for?


I never thought I'd say this, but, I agree with you. He's doing exactly what he said he would. But, I can't help wondering how many people who voted for him believed he stood a chance of getting in and out of those, how many thought he would really do what he said he would. I suspect a lot of people who voted for him, did so in order to send a message that they wanted change. Well, they certainly got that. The Dems could have put a nematode worm up against him and won. But for some reason they picked Hillary. It's almost as if neither party wanted to win. Now is not the time for you to be arguing amongst yourselves. Now is the time for you to be coming together and asking how the hell did we ever get to the situation where those two were our only realistic options.

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Jun 23, 2018 16:07:44   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but, I agree with you. He's doing exactly what he said he would. But, I can't help wondering how many people who voted for him believed he stood a chance of getting in and out of those, how many thought he would really do what he said he would. I suspect a lot of people who voted for him, did so in order to send a message that they wanted change. Well, they certainly got that. The Dems could have put a nematode worm up against him and won. But for some reason they picked Hillary. It's almost as if neither party wanted to win. Now is not the time for you to be arguing amongst yourselves. Now is the time for you to be coming together and asking how the hell did we ever get to the situation where those two were our only realistic options.
I never thought I'd say this, but, I agree with yo... (show quote)


“He's doing exactly what he said he would.”

And what, pray tell, is that?

He is one grotesque failure after another.

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Jun 23, 2018 16:17:44   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Twardlow wrote:
“He's doing exactly what he said he would.”

And what, pray tell, is that?

He is one grotesque failure after another.



I found one campaign promise that he has kept:


""I promise I will never be in a bicycle race. That I can tell you."

(This promise is connected to criticism of Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who was injured while riding a bicycle amid the Iran negotiations.) "

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Jun 23, 2018 16:17:46   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Twardlow wrote:
“He's doing exactly what he said he would.”

And what, pray tell, is that?

He is one grotesque failure after another.


We must have missed the new and much, much, much, much better and wonderful Obamacare replacement along with infrastructure improvement and several other little items.

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Jun 23, 2018 16:57:29   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Twardlow wrote:
Sounds like you still suffer from the abuse.

You never forgave him, did you?

You really need to make a call.

You Can be happy again.


Do you think you sound sane Howdy Doody?

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Jun 23, 2018 17:50:17   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
DaveO wrote:
We must have missed the new and much, much, much, much better and wonderful Obamacare replacement along with infrastructure improvement and several other little items.


I was thinking more in terms of generalities. He promised change and he's certainly delivered on that. It's strange that many Republicans claim that Democrats/ progressives, (I've never understood why the two should be synonymous), want change for change's sake, yet they voted for Trump with no idea of the changes they were voting for.

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Jun 23, 2018 18:12:06   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but, I agree with you. He's doing exactly what he said he would. But, I can't help wondering how many people who voted for him believed he stood a chance of getting in and out of those, how many thought he would really do what he said he would. I suspect a lot of people who voted for him, did so in order to send a message that they wanted change. Well, they certainly got that. The Dems could have put a nematode worm up against him and won. But for some reason they picked Hillary. It's almost as if neither party wanted to win. Now is not the time for you to be arguing amongst yourselves. Now is the time for you to be coming together and asking how the hell did we ever get to the situation where those two were our only realistic options.
I never thought I'd say this, but, I agree with yo... (show quote)


Your last sentence is a good point. I do believe due to the last election and the outrage, screaming, rioting, crying, fake media, the face of politics in this country is changed forever. It will be a whole new ball game.

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Jun 23, 2018 19:06:43   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Your last sentence is a good point. I do believe due to the last election and the outrage, screaming, rioting, crying, fake media, the face of politics in this country is changed forever. It will be a whole new ball game.


That ball game is the same one the Romans played and how did that turn out?

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Jun 23, 2018 19:09:11   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I was thinking more in terms of generalities. He promised change and he's certainly delivered on that. It's strange that many Republicans claim that Democrats/ progressives, (I've never understood why the two should be synonymous), want change for change's sake, yet they voted for Trump with no idea of the changes they were voting for.


I think I understand your thought and readily agree that change was important to many. There were issues that were easy targets for dissatisfaction and the media seemed to expound on negativity that was embraced by many who seemed to view a lot of rhetoric as fact, no matter how distorted. Trump, used to throwing his weight around, decided to take on the media and essentially denigrate any and all who opposed him. His followers display the same level of respect. There are reasons for the various branches of government and he has opted to do whatever he wishes with total disregard. It serves no purpose for me to carry on and perpetuate fruitless and uninformed opinions that are tainted or based on things interpreted and construed as being factual. The vast majority of facts are little more than the opinions of others that were often conveniently formulated to support and justify their own bias.

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Jun 23, 2018 20:52:28   #
cwp3420
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Typical lib BS. If you disagree then the other person is a liar. Tell me again about the tolerant and forgiving democraps. Kraken, you are one of the weak minded and easily led.


He’s a fricken Canadian so what do you expect? Look at the loser he voted for. He has glue on eyebrows, and he badmouthed Trump. What a clown.

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Jun 23, 2018 21:01:16   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
cwp3420 wrote:
He’s a fricken Canadian so what do you expect? Look at the loser he voted for. He has glue on eyebrows, and he badmouthed Trump. What a clown.


First of all I didn't vote for him and if you ignorant unread morons would have checked it out closer it was the lighting, he does not have a loose eyebrow. Get a life.

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