JR69 wrote:
I have 2 Nikon d-80 from way back. I use one as a second camera and the wife uses the other on full auto. I upgraded to FX with the D600 when it came out. After two sensor cleanings and a shutter replacements, Nikon USA replaced it with my current 610. I would like better low light results. Native iso is only 6400 and perhaps 3000 is my limit with acceptable noise. Higher frames per second would be nice for airshows, car races and birds in flight. My 24.3 Megapixel is adequate but a higher mgpxl could be nice for cropping.
My glass consists of: Nikkor 17-35mm 2.8 D, Nikkor 50mm 1.8 D, Nikkor 60mm 2.8 G Micro, Nikkor 70-200mm 2.8 G II VR , Nikkor 300mm 2.8G II VR, Nikon AF-S TeleconverterTC-20EIII along with a few DX lens for the d80's
Bodies I am considering: 750 but not much of improvement over 610.. I pick up 1 stop on the iso, same fps 6, more focus points 51 but I tend to use single. Expeed 4
Down side old body and I understand it's on its 3rd recall. Price is cheap. $1500.
D810 much like the 750 but 36 Mgpxl, older than the D750. They are still selling them but not on the Nikon USA web page under FX cameras. $2800.
The D850 and the D500 look like sweethearts.. All I hear is good things about the 850 except the wait time to get one. It's a tad more than I want to spend. Good low end iso at 64 but only 25,600 on the high end. fps is only 7 and with the battery pack 9fps. The D500 also looks sweet with features better than the 850 - iso 100-51200 , higher fps 10. Down side is its a DX.. That would help with the field of view with the long glass but I would then need a great DX wide angle zoom. The D500 for all you get is cheap also at $1900. Both have exceed 5
Numerous sources, big box stores in Ny , Nikon USA other blogs and here have guessed at the wait time for the D850 between a week to 12 weeks or even longer....
Sooo What say you? Bite the bullit for the 850, settle for the 500 or pick up an older body???
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It really depends upon WHAT you shoot, too.
If you shoot sports, wildlife, etc.... the longest lens you've got is 300mm and a DX camera like the D500 would make that "act like a 450mm" without having to add a teleconverter (and even longer when used with your 1.4X). DX cameras are ideal for long telephoto work, leveraging your lenses to "do more". There can be some significant savings of size, weight and money in lenses, too, if you use big telephotos a lot If you don't need the 10 frames per sec speed and top-of-the-line autofocus system, a D7500 (same 21MP sensor as D500) or even a D7200 (a higher 24MP) might serve very well, too.
But if you primarily shoot landscapes, portraits, macro, architecture.... you'll want wide, and possibly low light capabilities, and more control over depth of field... all of which are better done with an FX camera like the D810 or D850. And since relatively high resolution models like the D850 and D810 can be used in "DX mode", they also might be more versatile. IQ of the DX camera is slightly better than the DX crop from the FX camera. A DX camera may also be faster, smaller, lighter and cost a lot less.
D850.... $3300 body only (FX, 46MP... 7 fps, 153-point AF, DX crop mode = 20MP)
D810.... $2800 body only (FX, 36MP... 5 fps, 51-point AF, DX crop mode = 15.5MP)
D750.... $2000 body only (FX, 24MP... 6.5 fps, 51-point AF, DX crop mode = 10MP)
D500.... $1900 body only (DX, 21MP... 10 fps, 153-point AF)
D7500.. $1150 body only (DX, 21MP... 8 fps, 51-point AF)
D7200.. $800 body only (DX, 24MP... 6 fps, 51-point AF)
Most (all?) of the above are currently being offered with a free vertical battery grip and extra battery.
When it comes to high ISOs and noise, all the above are likely to be able to door better than your older cameras. There has been a lot of improvement in that respect, in recent DLSRs. The FX cameras a whole lot better... the latest DX cameras, not quite as much.
Also be sure your computer system is up to the task of handling 36MP or 46MP image files! That takes a lot of RAM, a fairly fast processor and lots of hard drive storage space! If computer upgrades are needed, that's some additional cost. Bigger, faster memory cards might be another expense, but those are pretty cheap these days.
So, DX cameras can be a bit better choice for some things... FX for others. But, hey, maybe you should get one of each! A D810 and a D7200 aren't a whole lot more expensive than a D850. If you were to consider used or refurbished, you might even be able to buy two cameras for less than the price of the D850.