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Jun 17, 2018 10:04:23   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
jmccl wrote:
I looked at the water fall at the right which appears to be straight ahead of the camera. That falling water seems to be straight up and down to me, I think the image is level.


Exactly! If you rotate the picture any other way it can hang in a science fiction museum.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:07:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
out4life2016 wrote:
I want to take the time to say Thank You to all who commented and criticised on this thread. I sold the print last night to the owner of the company I work for who wanted it for his office. He has now asked me to produce 5 more photos of different places around the county and he will have them framed for the board room. He paid 250 for last night purchase and will be paying 35 for the other prints. I have also sold 3 other copies of the prints to coworkers for 40 each and they will frame themselves. Photography is a hobby that I take seriously, but it's also an art so does it really need to be perfect. The lense and the camera I have are by no means top quality which contributes to the softness of the image. I really don't think a 12 Megapixel camera should be used for anything over an 8x10. These that bought were coworkers if they would have been friends then I would have either convinced them to buyou a camera and teach them how to take the photo or let them use mine so they can take the picture themselves. Photography is an art that we should enjoy showing and teach others about.
Thank you all again for your comments.
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Considering your customers and the situation, that was a fair deal.

Don’t underestimate the capabilities of a 12MP camera. I’ve made very nice 30x20s and 40x30s from 10MP to 16MP files. In 2004, we regularly made 40x60 portraits from 8.2MP files at the lab where I worked. At the normal viewing distance (between six and nine feet for a 40x60), they looked fine.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:16:08   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
JD750 wrote:
Is it me or is the surface of the surface of the water on top, not parallel to the horizontal parts of the frame? Just asking....


I agree. The surface of the water is not level. That should be corrected before you sell any prints. Assuming that you wish to sell your picture for a profit, I would price it as a work of art and sell it framed. First, make sure you copyright it. As a work of art, it is what the market will bare. If it cost you $250 for the print and frame you should add a value for your creative time and double the total as a starting point. I would make it a limited edition. I.e., decide to make a specific number of prints, number and sign the back of each (1 of 10, 2 of 10, etc.) and destroy the original media. I would then visit local art dealers who sell photographic works and see if they will take prints on consignment. They can also help you arrive at your selling price. Remember they will charge a commission to you on top of the selling price. Good luck!

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Jun 17, 2018 10:23:36   #
Zack_W Loc: Urbana, Illinois
 
A couple of "tech" points -

Shutter speed determines how a photo of moving things, like flowing water, will be viewed. A shutter speed in the range of 1/25 to 1/50 second will render the image close to what the mind actually perceives; hence, it's the most realistic. Faster shutter speeds "freeze" the motion and make the water appear frozen. Slower shutter speeds give the misty, foggy, dreamy appearance to moving water. Use whichever you wish for the effect you want to create.

Also, if you plan on mounting a lot of prints, a dry mount press and tacking iron are great tools to have and well worth the investment. I mount all my own prints.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:31:57   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
out4life2016 wrote:
I shoot this photo a few weeks ago and decided to see what it was like blown up to a 20x30 and framed it since I liked it so much. Several coworkers have asked if I was willing to sell it and I'm trying to determine a fair price. The print was 20 dollars and the frame and matting was another 115 dollars. Any advice would be helpful. I am including a photo of the finished item and the original copy below. Thank you for all honest opinions.


If you look at the upper right side the dark area, it looks to me like that part of the shot is level. I may be wrong.
As far as selling. I would charge my co-workers what it cost me for the print, have them frame the way they want. Framing is personal as far as frame, matting color, etc.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:32:04   #
out4life2016 Loc: Bellingham, Washington
 
Zack_W wrote:
A couple of "tech" points -

Shutter speed determines how a photo of moving things, like flowing water, will be viewed. A shutter speed in the range of 1/25 to 1/50 second will render the image close to what the mind actually perceives; hence, it's the most realistic. Faster shutter speeds "freeze" the motion and make the water appear frozen. Slower shutter speeds give the misty, foggy, dreamy appearance to moving water. Use whichever you wish for the effect you want to create.

Also, if you plan on mounting a lot of prints, a dry mount press and tacking iron are great tools to have and well worth the investment. I mount all my own prints.
A couple of "tech" points - br br Shut... (show quote)


Thank you for the insight of tools to use. Something I will certainly look into seeing as I do want to mount my own prints.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:37:35   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
out4life2016 wrote:
I want to take the time to say Thank You to all who commented and criticised on this thread. I sold the print last night to the owner of the company I work for who wanted it for his office. He has now asked me to produce 5 more photos of different places around the county and he will have them framed for the board room. He paid 250 for last night purchase and will be paying 35 for the other prints. I have also sold 3 other copies of the prints to coworkers for 40 each and they will frame themselves. Photography is a hobby that I take seriously, but it's also an art so does it really need to be perfect. The lense and the camera I have are by no means top quality which contributes to the softness of the image. I really don't think a 12 Megapixel camera should be used for anything over an 8x10. These that bought were coworkers if they would have been friends then I would have either convinced them to buyou a camera and teach them how to take the photo or let them use mine so they can take the picture themselves. Photography is an art that we should enjoy showing and teach others about.
Thank you all again for your comments.
I want to take the time to say Thank You to all wh... (show quote)

Congratulations! You have accomplished all your goals. You sold images at fair prices, gained exposure in multiple locations, and have some profit to help with buying that new camera! And everyone will be happy and satisfied with their purchases.

I also enjoy showing my photos, teaching others when I can, and when i do sell something, keep the prices reasonable. Not being a professional, I think you found the best solution.

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Jun 17, 2018 10:45:21   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
out4life2016 wrote:
I want to take the time to say Thank You to all who commented and criticised on this thread. ......


Perfect solution. Nice job

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Jun 17, 2018 11:15:47   #
Cos1
 
I would charge around 250.00 for this it is very nice.

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Jun 17, 2018 11:35:17   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
JD750 wrote:
Is it me or is the surface of the surface of the water on top, not parallel to the horizontal parts of the frame? Just asking....


If it was then the water below the spillway would not be horizontal!

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Jun 17, 2018 11:36:51   #
Thurber Mingus
 
Regarding whether or not it's level...
I think in photos where there is no clear vertical or horizontal reference (like this one), the best thing to do is try out some different versions and see which one passes the "eye test". Personally I find this one a bit unsettling and would rotate it clockwise until it seemed "right". Some feel it's already level and it may well be, but I wouldn't have any problem rotating it so that it "feels right" in the absence of definite guides, like a clear horizon, an absolute vertical etc.

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Jun 17, 2018 11:54:36   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
out4life2016 wrote:
I shoot this photo a few weeks ago and decided to see what it was like blown up to a 20x30 and framed it since I liked it so much. Several coworkers have asked if I was willing to sell it and I'm trying to determine a fair price. The print was 20 dollars and the frame and matting was another 115 dollars. Any advice would be helpful. I am including a photo of the finished item and the original copy below. Thank you for all honest opinions.


Marilyn and I have many mounted photos that we have gifted to clients and doctor’s offices. The photos I want to sell are on my webpage

Rick

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Jun 17, 2018 11:58:14   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Thurber Mingus wrote:
Regarding whether or not it's level...
I think in photos where there is no clear vertical or horizontal reference (like this one), the best thing to do is try out some different versions and see which one passes the "eye test". Personally I find this one a bit unsettling and would rotate it clockwise until it seemed "right". Some feel it's already level and it may well be, but I wouldn't have any problem rotating it so that it "feels right" in the absence of definite guides, like a clear horizon, an absolute vertical etc.
Regarding whether or not it's level... br I thin... (show quote)



If you look at the water just before the point where it goes over the falls there is a dark line that separates the faster moving water from the slower water above. That is where the water is level and where the photo must be level to appear correct.

After leveling on still water above fast water
After leveling on still water above fast water...
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Original photo
Original photo...
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Jun 17, 2018 12:02:41   #
grizz3283
 
I so agree! Visit "The Flume" or "The Basin" off Rte 93 (Franconia Notch) in Nh for comparative shots.

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Jun 17, 2018 12:57:09   #
double g Loc: Oklahoma
 
You might just sell them the print for your cost plus whatever you want to add for your time, effort and creative ability. I'd say $60 to $80. Let them bare the framing expense.

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