ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

Yes I do. Do you have any more rude comments or are you done?

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

Most likely what I think he appears to be saying, or most likely all of my photos are snapshots?

IDguy Loc: Idaho

Edited for clarity.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Your level of comprehension is a matter of subjective opinion, and based upon your responses. As you say, this is a forum, and we are all free to comment.

You are the one that called people snobbish for making a point that you disagreed with, which is clearly judgmental, dismissive, and also rude.

Whether I am done or not may depend upon your responses and the assumptions that you make.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

So all my photos, none of which you have seen, are all crappy snapshots? Thanks!

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

I called someone snobbish for dismissing all my photos because I haven't had the level of training he thinks I should have. That was rude. You're now throwing insults at me again. Thanks.

courtland43 Loc: Central Florida

All I can do is picture you sitting there typing this...with your nose in the air.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

From the one who judges the photographer rather than the photo?

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

You've got to work on your reading comprehension skills. I never said that. I never dismissed any of your photos since I've never seen them and I never mentioned anything about a "level of training" which implies something formal. I did say that photography is a craft that requires development of a set of skills that takes a personal commitment of time and effort.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

You also dismiss a photo taken by someone who hasn't gone through this as a snapshot.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

For your edification, This is exactly what I posted. Please reread carefully!!!!

"That's not what I said. Studying is not just about taking courses, although it could be. Out of curiosity I actually took a couple of extension courses in photography a number of years back but they spent far more time on post-processing then they did on actually learning the art of taking pictures. Studying is reading, viewing videos, talking to others and asking questions, and more than anything else practice, practice, practice. Hours and hours and hours of reading and practicing. Practice all the things that you read and learned about, all the concepts you've heard about. As I said photography is a craft, and it takes effort and time to develop one's skills, like any other craft. Some people are naturally born with an artistic eye, and understand the use of light and understand composition naturally. For the rest of us we need to learn it. Those who do not have the interest to take the time or effort to learn it are not photographers. Just pushing a button on a camera, even an expensive one, doesn't make you one.
mwsilvers"

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

You want me to reread carefully? I wasn't talking to you. Another poster threw insults at me. If you'll look at what I quoted, I was addressing them! Not you. Jesus, read carefully before having a go at someone.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

No need to thank me. You are making unwarranted assumptions about what people actually wrote and appear to have a very thin skin, which is dangerous on the internet.

In reading quite a few of your posts you appear to have your Nikkors in a twist about what you perceive as 'snobbery'.

We all take snapshots. I would conjecture that we all take some crappy snapshots. I know that I do.

That said accusing others of snobbery is in itself rude and insulting, possibly a sign of having an inferiority complex.

You also stated that people haven't seen your images. How do you know that? You have posted some of them here, which enables us to see them. Presumably we are allowed to exercise our own judgment as to whether they are masterpieces or snapshots, it is a matter of opinon after all.

Some of the world's most iconic images are snapshots. Some are meticulously planned. Ansel Adams' famous Moonrise image was essentially a snapshot that he turned into a masterpiece.

I would respectfully suggest that you consider your own attitudes. You posted a request for people to be polite, yet you call people snobs, which is absolutely 'bloody' rude in much of civilized society.

Since you claim to be from London, you should have a decent opportunity to learn English comprehension, and possibly even some of the social graces.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Yes exactly. Someone who doesn't have any interest in learning about photography and hasn't taken ANY time and effort to develop their skills and doesn't have a natural eye for it or a natural gift for composition is not a photographer. Its the same for any craft. Nailing two pieces of wood together doesn't make you a carpenter, depressing a few keys on a piano doesn't make you a pianist and hitting a snare drum with a stick doesn't make you a percussionist, pushing a gas pedal and turning a wheel doesn't make you a driver. And pushing a shutter button with no understanding or interest in understanding how to control the end result doesn't make you a photographer. This is simple basic stuff, I wonder why your are struggling with the concept.

ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.

Being rude here. I'm trying to fathom why it matters what skills the photographer has. If it's an amazing photo, does it in your eyes devalue it, if their skill set is low? If so, why? It should be the photo which counts, not what got the photographer there. And anyone can be a photographer, they don't have to follow your definition.