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Jun 10, 2018 12:55:35   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
insman1132 wrote:
Welcome. You are in for a fun ride!! And yes, I think you will be happy doing wildlife with the proposed new lens.


Your experience is very similar to mine about four years ago, except that I went with a Canon camera. When I bought the 70-300 the cost difference between the time between a Canon lens decided me to go with the (new and just introduced) Tamron. I like the lens but think it is a bit limited reach for wildlife photography. At near the full 300 mm extension, even back yard song birds have to be in perfect focus at over +/- 70 feet when trying to make a 11" x 14" print. At the time my main interest was getting better prints of sailboat & hydroplane boat races. Most of those come out fine, but the shutter speed really has to be pushed to the 1/1500 and higher.

You might want to try using continuous shots in the faster mode, you may get better results with several shots to chose with a one second or so burst.

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Jun 10, 2018 13:21:56   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ferret wrote:
Hot off the press, sun just dipping but proof of blue skies


Isn't that heavily Photoshopped? Most Brits get to about 9 years old before they see the Sun, and exclaim: "Cor! Whatsat!"

More seriously, petal lens hoods are harder to manufacture, but make sense for rectangular sensors. I've heard that it's something to do with the laws of physics.

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Jun 10, 2018 13:51:38   #
ferret
 
I am really sorry, I am new to photography and on a steep learning curve so am far from qualified to answer your question, could I suggest you open a new topic, the members on here are a very friendly bunch.
fishgroder wrote:
I have a Tamron 18-400 lens
I put a cpl on the lens but cannot rotate it for the best polarization with the the lens hood on.
Any suggestions will be appreciated

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Jun 10, 2018 15:03:45   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
I use lens hoods on all my lens. even my 600mm. Not only do they keep out unwanted light from the side. They protect the lens if bumped. Its better to get a ding in the hood than in your lens.

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Jun 10, 2018 15:37:36   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I always use a lens hood. Lens hood design is specific to the type and focal length of the lens it is intended for. Petal type hoods are mostly found on wider angle lenses and barrel type on longer focal length lenses. Zooms often require some compromise here. Best of luck.

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Jun 10, 2018 15:41:44   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
ferret wrote:
Hello all.

I am new to photography and now the proud owner of a Nikon D5600 which came with a basic lens. I have taken some decent pictures (or at least I think they are) using this lens but feel I need more scope with subjects in the distance so I am about to purchase a zoom lens, a Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F/4.5 6G Ed VR. I have two questions, 1. do you think this is a suitable lens for getting a decent photos of wildlife which persist in staying out of reach of my present lens and 2. there seems to be two types of lens hoods, a petal form hood and a solid ring, why the different types and are they necessary for all photographic conditions, light / distance etc.

Thank you in anticipation of any answers.
Hello all. br br I am new to photography and now... (show quote)


Different shapes of lens hoods are based on manufacturer's research. Wide angle lenses usually have a petal style, to provide shade from sunlight, but not impact the image and the wide angle side.
A 200-600 would probably have a can shaped lens hood because when you're reaching out and imaging something at 200+ mm, wide angle distortion does not matter.

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Jun 10, 2018 17:38:22   #
fishgroder
 
How do I rotate a circular polarizing lens with a lens hood attached to the camera

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Jun 10, 2018 18:20:54   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
fishgroder wrote:
How do I rotate a circular polarizing lens with a lens hood attached to the camera

Carefully and with dexterity!

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Jun 10, 2018 18:27:15   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
fishgroder wrote:
How do I rotate a circular polarizing lens with a lens hood attached to the camera

A few lens hoods have a little "door" for that, the hood with my Canon 100-400L has a slider to close the opening. It is also excellent for catching dust and then I use up a couple of Q-tips cleaning it.

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Jun 10, 2018 18:46:58   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
ferret wrote:
Hello all.

I am new to photography and now the proud owner of a Nikon D5600 which came with a basic lens. I have taken some decent pictures (or at least I think they are) using this lens but feel I need more scope with subjects in the distance so I am about to purchase a zoom lens, a Nikon AF-P 70-300mm F/4.5 6G Ed VR. I have two questions, 1. do you think this is a suitable lens for getting a decent photos of wildlife which persist in staying out of reach of my present lens and 2. there seems to be two types of lens hoods, a petal form hood and a solid ring, why the different types and are they necessary for all photographic conditions, light / distance etc.

Thank you in anticipation of any answers.
Hello all. br br I am new to photography and now... (show quote)


The lens hood that Nikon supplies with the 70-300 is the lens hood to use. It is also the best protection for your front lens element. And yes, I believe the reach is adequate for wildlife. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
When shooting wildlife try to shoot at a minimum of 1\500 sec. And if the sucker is moving, 1\1000 sec should be your minimum shutter speed.

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Jun 10, 2018 19:47:45   #
retina_reflex Loc: Los Angeles
 
Nice garden.

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Jun 11, 2018 05:07:48   #
ferret
 
Thank you, I have now decided to go with the Nikon lens, general consensus has pointed the way I think, lots to learn
JCam wrote:
Your experience is very similar to mine about four years ago, except that I went with a Canon camera. When I bought the 70-300 the cost difference between the time between a Canon lens decided me to go with the (new and just introduced) Tamron. I like the lens but think it is a bit limited reach for wildlife photography. At near the full 300 mm extension, even back yard song birds have to be in perfect focus at over +/- 70 feet when trying to make a 11" x 14" print. At the time my main interest was getting better prints of sailboat & hydroplane boat races. Most of those come out fine, but the shutter speed really has to be pushed to the 1/1500 and higher.

You might want to try using continuous shots in the faster mode, you may get better results with several shots to chose with a one second or so burst.
Your experience is very similar to mine about four... (show quote)

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Jun 11, 2018 05:10:19   #
ferret
 
Thank you for your help and advice, much appreciated
billnikon wrote:
The lens hood that Nikon supplies with the 70-300 is the lens hood to use. It is also the best protection for your front lens element. And yes, I believe the reach is adequate for wildlife. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
When shooting wildlife try to shoot at a minimum of 1\500 sec. And if the sucker is moving, 1\1000 sec should be your minimum shutter speed.

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Jun 11, 2018 05:17:44   #
ferret
 
And we STILL have blue skies but guess what, rain forecast for the end of the week, oh well, that's England. Thanks for hood info
Peterff wrote:
Isn't that heavily Photoshopped? Most Brits get to about 9 years old before they see the Sun, and exclaim: "Cor! Whatsat!"

More seriously, petal lens hoods are harder to manufacture, but make sense for rectangular sensors. I've heard that it's something to do with the laws of physics.

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Jun 11, 2018 09:37:00   #
AndyT Loc: Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Orson Burleigh wrote:
A petal-form lens hood, if properly designed and properly oriented when attached, will reduce vignetting at wide apertures. The corners and sides of the rectangular sensor are farther away from the center of the circular image provided by the lens, while the top and bottom of that rectangular sensor are closer to the center of the image circle. The portions of the sensor which are closer to the center of the image circle are less affected by any fall-off in the quantity of light which may occur near the edge of the image circle at wide apertures.

The shallow or short parts of the wavy-shaped petal hood are intended to increase the amount of light reaching the sides and corners of the rectangular sensor, resulting in a more evenly balanced distribution of light across the entire sensor. The deepest indentations of the petal-form hood coincide with the corners of the sensor, and the shorter side petals are oriented to match the sides of the sensor. The petal-form hood, particularly with zoom lenses, is a carefully considered compromise: shallow side petals and deep corner indentations do somewhat reduce the anti-flare effectiveness of the petal-form hood.
A petal-form lens hood, if properly designed and p... (show quote)


What Orson said. Long petals go on the top and bottom.

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