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A BIT OF HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE FOR YOU RELATED TO OLD SAYINGS:
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Jun 6, 2018 09:27:11   #
RLSeipleSr Loc: North of Boston
 
FrumCA wrote:
... this fabulous bit of historic knowledge ...


Keep them coming ... I, for one, will never run you down for providing a laugh ... !

Bob S

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Jun 6, 2018 09:49:05   #
cuckoobob
 
Many of these "facts" are in fact, INCORRECT! I call particular attention to the one about "minding one's ps and qs"! As a former handset printer, I can assert that a lower case P and a lower case Q are mirror images of each other, and are often confused by beginning typesetters! "Minding one's ps and qs" refers to being sure that the correct letters are used when setting type by hand, and by extension, to being on one's best behavior.

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Jun 6, 2018 14:42:17   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
revhen wrote:
When someone is not playing with a full deck, he is either mentally, psychologically or intellectually deficient. The deck referenced in not playing with a full deck is a deck of cards. There is a popular story that the origin of this phrase dates back to the 1500s, when a tax was levied against decks of cards. People would get around the tax by purchasing decks of 51 cards instead of 52 cards, thereby not playing with a full deck. This is a false story originally circulated in a viral email purporting to solve the murky origins of certain idioms. Not playing with a full deck is one of many phrases that emerged in the United States during the 1980s to describe someone “missing something upstairs”. Similar phrases are not firing on all cylinders, two bricks shy of a load, and half a bubble off plumb.
When someone is not playing with a full deck, he i... (show quote)


... a couple of fries short of a Happy Meal ... not wrapped too tight ... and on and on and on ...

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Jun 6, 2018 14:43:37   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
revhen wrote:
Snopes on freezing the balls off a brass monkey: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brass-monkeyshines/


Snopes is and always has been a JOKE

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Jun 6, 2018 21:09:15   #
ab7rn Loc: Portland, Oregon
 
HOHIMER wrote:
What about:'Four sheets to the wind.'?


The thing to remember here is that the term "sheet" refers to the line that controls the sail. Hence, if the sheet is to the wind, control has been lost.

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Jun 6, 2018 21:36:24   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
While all of these are entertaining, some of them are 'alternative facts.'

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Jun 7, 2018 00:09:16   #
gtemple1 Loc: E. Olympia, WA
 
A lot of nonsense and I liked it the way it's presented.

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Jun 7, 2018 04:36:24   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
FrumCA wrote:
Early aircraft throttles had a ball on the end of it, in order to go full throttle the pilot had to push the throttle all the way forward into the wall of the instrument panel. Hence "balls to the wall" for going very fast.

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Did you know the saying "God willing and the creek don't rise" was in reference to the Creek Indians and not a body of water? It was written by Benjamin Hawkins in the late 18th century. He was a politician and Indian diplomat. While in the south,Hawkins was requested by the President of the U.S. to return to Washington In his response, he was said to write, "God willing and the Creek don't rise." Because he capitalized the word "Creek", he was referring to the Creek Indian tribe and not a body of water.

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In George Washington's days, there were no cameras. One's image was either sculpted or painted. Some paintings of George Washington showed him standing behind a desk with one arm behind his back while others showed both legs and both arms.

Prices charged by painters were not based on how many people were to be painted, but by how many limbs were to be painted. Arms and legs are 'limbs,' therefore painting them would cost the buyer more. Hence the expression, 'Okay, but it'll cost you an arm and a leg.' (Artists know hands and arms are more difficult to paint.)

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As incredible as it sounds, men and women took baths only twice a year (May and October). Women kept their hair covered, while men shaved their heads (because of lice and bugs) and wore wigs. Wealthy men could afford good wigs made from wool. They couldn't wash the wigs, so to clean them they would carve out a loaf of bread, put the wig in the shell, and bake it for 30 minutes. The heat would make the wig big and fluffy, hence the term 'big wig'.

Today we often use the term 'here comes the Big Wig' because someone appears to be or is powerful and wealthy.

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In the late 1700's, many houses consisted of a large room with only one chair. Commonly, a long wide board folded down from the wall and was used for dining. The 'head of the household' always sat in the chair while everyone else ate sitting on the floor. Occasionally a guest, usually a man, would be invited to sit in this chair during a meal. To sit in the chair meant you were important and in charge. They called the one sitting in the chair the 'chair man.'

Today in business, we use the expression or title 'Chairman' or 'Chairman of the Board.'

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Personal hygiene left much room for improvement. As a result, many women and men had developed acne scars by adulthood. The women would spread bee's wax over their facial skin to smooth out their complexions. When they were speaking to each other, if a woman began to stare at another woman's face she was told, 'mind your own bee's wax.' Should the woman smile, the wax would crack, hence the term 'crack a smile'. In addition, when they sat too close to the fire, the wax would melt. Therefore, the expression 'losing face.'

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Ladies wore corsets, which would lace up in the front. A proper and dignified woman, as in 'straight laced,' wore a tightly tied lace.

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Common entertainment included playing cards. However, there was a tax levied when purchasing playing cards that was only applicable to the 'Ace of Spades.' To avoid paying the tax, people would purchase 51 cards instead. Since most games require 52 cards, these people were thought to be stupid or dumb because they weren't 'playing with a full deck.'

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Early politicians required feedback from the public to determine what the people considered important. Since there were no telephones, TV's or radios, the politicians sent their assistants to local taverns, pubs, and bars. They were told to 'go sip some ale and listen to people's conversations and political concerns. Many assistants were dispatched at different times. 'You go sip here' and 'You go sip there.' The two words 'go sip' were eventually combined when referring to the local opinion, and thus we have the term 'gossip.'

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At local taverns, pubs, and bars, people drank from pint and quart-sized containers. A bar maid's job was to keep an eye on the customers and keep the drinks coming. She had to pay close attention and remember who was drinking in 'pints' and who was drinking in 'quarts,' hence the phrase 'minding your 'P's and Q's'.

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One more: bet you didn't know this! In the heyday of sailing ships, all war ships and many freighters carried iron cannons. Those cannons fired round iron cannon balls. It was necessary to keep a good supply near the cannon. However, how to prevent them from rolling about the deck? The best storage method devised was a square-based pyramid with one ball on top, resting on four resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. There was only one problem.... how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding or rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate called a 'monkey' which had 16 round indentations. If this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make 'brass monkeys.'

Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts more and much faster than iron when it's chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannonballs would roll right off the monkey. Thus, it was quite literally, 'cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.'


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Good read! Thanks for posting.

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Jun 7, 2018 09:19:12   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
Please don’t be offend but I believe the phrase is FREE the ball of a brass monkeys as for the cold would shrink the holes therefore the ball would roll around

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Jun 10, 2018 16:13:29   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
Interesting, thanks!!

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Jun 10, 2018 17:37:01   #
cuckoobob
 
The actual phrase was, "freeze the balls off of a brass monkey". The remark is a very racial remark referring to a man of mixed ancestry whose skin colour was a reddish-brown, and those people were referred to in the pre-civil war American south as "brass monkeys". Now that you know, you are welcome to forget about it!

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Jun 11, 2018 12:11:55   #
Paladin48 Loc: Orlando
 
cuckoobob wrote:
The actual phrase was, "freeze the balls off of a brass monkey". The remark is a very racial remark referring to a man of mixed ancestry whose skin colour was a reddish-brown, and those people were referred to in the pre-civil war American south as "brass monkeys". Now that you know, you are welcome to forget about it!


Utter BS ... carry on

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