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Jun 8, 2018 11:52:18   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
hookedupin2005 wrote:
Who are you to say that his photos of famous paintings or sculptures are inferior? I would venture to guess that you do not know the OP, so you cannot know his talent as a photographer.


The photos I'm referring to are official photos made under the auspices of museum administrators with special lighting and no public present. Unless the OP can duplicate those conditions, his photos of art have to be "inferior."

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Jun 8, 2018 16:50:12   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear Berchman,
Thank you for your reply. I am an amateur at best.
I will gladly buy pictures from the Museums.
Thank you.
Phil
berchman wrote:
The photos I'm referring to are official photos made under the auspices of museum administrators with special lighting and no public present. Unless the OP can duplicate those conditions, his photos of art have to be "inferior."

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Jun 8, 2018 16:53:56   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear longshadow
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil


Longshadow wrote:
After having six primes and one zoom for my two film cameras for years, I have become a minimalist with the digital body.
If you have an APS-C body, I would use the 35 in museums, if allowed. (I only have a 50 f/1.4 prime)
For my travelings, (I too do not know what will be interesting in a new place), I would use my 18-200 (My walk-around).
(I was thinking about obtaining a prime 14 or 18 for more light gathering than the zoom, but we're only talking a couple of stops. I could probably live without it.)
But, as with anything, the decision is up to you. Do what you feel will give you the best advantage and results.
After having six primes and one zoom for my two fi... (show quote)

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Jun 8, 2018 16:54:42   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear Longshadow,
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil


Longshadow wrote:
After having six primes and one zoom for my two film cameras for years, I have become a minimalist with the digital body.
If you have an APS-C body, I would use the 35 in museums, if allowed. (I only have a 50 f/1.4 prime)
For my travelings, (I too do not know what will be interesting in a new place), I would use my 18-200 (My walk-around).
(I was thinking about obtaining a prime 14 or 18 for more light gathering than the zoom, but we're only talking a couple of stops. I could probably live without it.)
But, as with anything, the decision is up to you. Do what you feel will give you the best advantage and results.
After having six primes and one zoom for my two fi... (show quote)

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Jun 8, 2018 16:55:30   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear Rgrenaderphoto
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil

rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Having just come back from Paris, I have recent experience. A 35 mm on a full frame is just about right for photographing in museums, you will have difficulties due to crowds, getting far enough back to capture an entire painting. I used a 16 mm on a Fuji APS-C and was able to stand close enough to get the entire painting; except for the Mona Lisa, which is impossible due to the crowds.

For walking around, the streets in Europe are a lot narrower than what we are used to. Other than grand Boulevards the streets are mostly 1 way, having laid down when horse drawn carts were the norm. With 24mm you could get the doorway and part of the facade of a building, or a shot across the street of the entire structure particularly if it was on the opposite corner of an intersection.

I had a Fuji X-T20 with a 23mm prime, 16-55 and 55-230 zoom. 99% of what i used were the 23 mm and the 16-55. I only used the 55-230 twice in 2 weeks.
Having just come back from Paris, I have recent ex... (show quote)

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Jun 8, 2018 16:57:47   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear applet,
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil

pappleg wrote:
Did a Danube river cruise in 2015 including both Prague and Budapest and this is church and old world architecture country. Think wide angle to short tele (24-70 or 24-105) will cover the majority of your subjects. I had a 24-120 (95% of my shots) and also took a 300mm but used it perhaps three times in 400+ photos. See examples.

Pat

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Jun 8, 2018 16:58:49   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear FredCM
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil

FredCM wrote:
Take a polarized filter. The museums will probably have lots of displays in glass cases and the reflections will drive you batty. Just remember to stand off to one side a bit and the filter will block most if not all of the reflections. And unlike me, remember to take it with you to the museums.

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Jun 8, 2018 17:00:00   #
philklim Loc: Harrisonburg, Va.
 
Dear another view,
Thank you for your reply and suggestions.
I am an amateur at best.
Phil

anotherview wrote:
Sony FE 24–105 mm F4 G OSS. Keep it simple. This lens will cover nearly all subjects you will find in the two cities.

I've been to Europe three times with guided tours. Believe me, lugging anything around becomes a chore after a few hours on tour. So take one sling bag to carry everything you will need to do photography. Include one camera with one lens, a cleaning kit, spare battery, spare memory card, battery charger, card reader, circular polarizer, etc.

With its image stabilization, the Sony lens will take pictures in low light with good hand-holding technique.

Enjoy your trip to those two historical cities.
Sony FE 24–105 mm F4 G OSS. Keep it simple. This... (show quote)

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Jun 9, 2018 09:06:07   #
pappleg
 
TinaSuz wrote:
My husband and I are also taking a river cruise in a few weeks, with three days extension in Prague, then down the Danube to Budapest. Ihave visited Europe many times (mostly UK and France) and my Canon EOS Rebels (currently a T6) have generally been adequate. I plan to take an 18-55mm and a 55-250 zoom. Will these be adequate? I am retired and am trying photography as a serious hobby. I have a wide angle lens, but am not fond of it. My other question is nighttime photos. For obvious reason I won't be dragging along a tripod, but want to take some nice night photos. My problem with this is they often come out grainy and I'm not sure how to stop this. Please be kind, though I've been shooting for several years with some success I'm obviously not at the level of some of you. Or please point me to some helpful online tips/tutorials on night photography. Much appreciated.
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Hi Tina, If you sew or know someone who does make yourself a beanbag. 4" X 4" X 1" is perfect and search online for plastic pellets to fill it. Set it and your camera on anything stable such as the ship's rail or a pole and you can shoot at shutter speeds that you could never handhold. Use an ISO of 800-1600 and you can use low speeds and still avoid graininess. My photo above of the Budapest Parliament Building at night was done this way and I shot it with a 24mm wide angle. Your 18mm Canon lens is 27mm equivalent for a 35mm camera so should be adequate but you may find you want to go even wider for some church interiors. The other shot above is St Matthias in Budapest.

Enjoy, Pat

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Jun 9, 2018 12:45:00   #
TinaSuz Loc: Michigan
 
Thank you, Pat for your reply and suggestions. Not much for sewing, but think I can handle that much ;) I'm disappointed because I can't see your photos in your reply.

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Jun 9, 2018 18:17:57   #
pappleg
 
TinaSuz wrote:
Thank you, Pat for your reply and suggestions. Not much for sewing, but think I can handle that much ;) I'm disappointed because I can't see your photos in your reply.

Here they are; did not realize you could not see my previous post. Have a great trip, you will love it!!


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Jun 9, 2018 18:56:19   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
berchman wrote:
You can find a professional photograph of every famous painting or sculpture online so why would you want an inferior photo of one? I can understand wanting to take pictures of people perhaps juxtaposed to a particular work of art, but just the art itself?


'Cause you can get shots like this: Eugene Delacroix: La Liberté guidant le peuple - Victory Leading the People, on display in the Louvre Paris, France.


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Jun 10, 2018 01:43:28   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
'Cause you can get shots like this: Eugene Delacroix: La Liberté guidant le peuple - Victory Leading the People, on display in the Louvre Paris, France.

Ah !! Marianne .....Oui Oui !

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Jun 10, 2018 03:13:25   #
Sunnely Loc: Wisconsin
 
philklim wrote:
Dear Fellow Hogs,
I am traveling to Prague and Budapest and have questions about what lenses to take.
This is my first trip, so I do not know what I will be photographing.
In museums photographing paintings and sculptures would you use a Samyang FE 35mm/1.4 AF or a Sony FE 55mm/1.8 Zeiss.
For a walk around lens, Should I use either of the above lenses or a Sony FE Vario Tessar T* 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS or a
Sony FE 24–105 mm F4 G OSS (this one weighs a half of pound more.)
Thank you for your help.
Phil
Dear Fellow Hogs, br I am traveling to Prague and ... (show quote)


Agree with azted's response of, "you will need wide angle as well as telephoto." Fast wide-angle lens for low-light/night photo shooting (e.g. indoor museum, churches, synagogue); telephoto lens for your walking tour and extra reach. The well-lit Steidl's Hungarian Parliament overlooking the River Danube is a sight to behold at night. The largest synagogue in Europe is located in Budapest; heroes' square is more of military showpiece. There are other places connected with the WWII but can be disturbing to some. Lot's of history and beautiful places in Prague to see. To name a few, Old Town Square where the astronomical clock is (chimes/apostles' parade on the hour every hour; can be crowded, stake out your "best" spot early) and sort of people's gathering place, the Charles Bridge (artists, vendors, musicians, sculptures, even love locks, etc), St. Vitus Cathedral (glorious stained glass abound; bejeweled St. Wenceslas chapel with Gothic frescoes; he is the subject of the well-known "Good King Wenceslas", a Christmas carol), and other churches such as Infant Jesus of Prague. If you're with a river cruise (e.g. Viking), they offer excellent guided tour as part of the package. Guides are very knowledgeable and funny. Thank God, the beauty of Prague was spared the destruction of WWII. Enjoy your trip and take some good pictures. (Disclaimer: I don't have financial ties with any of the tour agencies.)

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Jun 10, 2018 11:47:08   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
TucsonCoyote wrote:
Ah !! Marianne .....Oui Oui !


THank you. This painting, which is wall sized, sits by itself in a darkened gallery. I was really tempted to play Le Marseillaise on my iPhone, but figured we'd be thrown out of the museum.

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