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Jun 2, 2018 21:32:26   #
Guyserman Loc: Benton, AR
 
Gene51 wrote:
I do two shots all the time. I rarely do more. Makes for better results and faster post processing. And it gives you the opportunity to use a layer mask to composite two images which is often all you need, as opposed to HDR merging.


How about one shot HDR. I take shots of people/events at an Alzheimer care facility with many windows opening to an interior courtyard. I expose for the windows or within one or two stops. I adjust the raw image to have the windows exposed like I want them and save a jpg. I re-adjust the raw image for the rest of the room and save a second jpg. Then in post processing I layer the two images and use masking to show the correctly exposed areas of the two layers. The layers align perfectly since they came from the same raw image. I can hand hold and get good images even of people who may be in motion. It takes some pp but it works for me. It could be used for RE photography by anyone with time on their hands. (I am strictly amateur.)

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Jun 2, 2018 22:26:13   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Chris T wrote:
Jack ... I just ran through all dozen of my DSLRs ... and these are the five found to have HDR and their various settings:

Nikon D7100 - Auto HDR, Extreme High, High, Medium, Low ... Pentax K-50 - Auto Align HDR, HDR EV-1, EV-2, EV-3 ....

All three Sony models I have - alpha a77 II, alpha a77, alpha a58 - HDR Auto 1-6, DRO (Dynamic Range Optimizer) - Level 1-5 ... hope this helps!!!


In other words, lots of cameras today, including Canons, can do in-camera HDR.

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Jun 2, 2018 22:51:33   #
canon Lee
 
Guyserman wrote:
How about one shot HDR. I take shots of people/events at an Alzheimer care facility with many windows opening to an interior courtyard. I expose for the windows or within one or two stops. I adjust the raw image to have the windows exposed like I want them and save a jpg. I re-adjust the raw image for the rest of the room and save a second jpg. Then in post processing I layer the two images and use masking to show the correctly exposed areas of the two layers. The layers align perfectly since they came from the same raw image. I can hand hold and get good images even of people who may be in motion. It takes some pp but it works for me. It could be used for RE photography by anyone with time on their hands. (I am strictly amateur.)
How about one shot HDR. I take shots of people/eve... (show quote)


Hi Guyseman... I think you should consider bracketing 3 shots..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKxihcKLOwk

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Jun 2, 2018 23:27:21   #
Guyserman Loc: Benton, AR
 
canon Lee wrote:
Hi Guyseman... I think you should consider bracketing 3 shots..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKxihcKLOwk


I have used three shot bracketing on occasion but when shooting people hand held it just doesn't work for me. I don't have any of those high-powered HDR programs and Photoshop Elements does not do a very good job aligning the images. Sometimes I use fill flash but I like to do it the way I do for the best window results.

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Jun 3, 2018 03:23:10   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I have found this topic interesting because I retired from shooting RE and architecture. From my experience, the subject property more or less demands how you are going to shoot it. HDR, strobe(s), shims, or a mix (flambient). Also, what you are being paid for the amount of time and effort you require to do the job. I don't like blown-out windows that are prevalent on architectural shoots but sometimes they are appropriate even on RE shoots. You are telling a story of a home and you are to convey a feeling that will attract someone to wish to preview it in person. Images are a hook and nothing more. The reason houses with excellent photographs sell quicker is because they often get more personal viewings. The key image, in my opinion, is the elevation image. The front of the house. Buyers often drive neighborhoods looking – they can't see inside but how the house looks from the outside often attracts them. The same applies to someone seeing a flyer, MLS image, facebook image or, newspaper image. That's about a 3 second hook to get them to look further. Some people shoot the interior to make it look huge. I have found that 18mm to 35mm works great. I usually shot a room using two points and always attempted to show a window (not blown). Sometimes a single point image works well. I seldom shot a room without having all the lights on. I have moved lightbulbs around when they messed up the white balance. I used mostly bounce flash because it worked well for me in most instances. I used f/7.1, ISO 320 and a shutter speed that varied greatly depending on the ambient light (1/30 to 1/200) and manual mode. If I had an entire shoot HDR I would use Aperture priority and 3 shots on 2 steps. I mostly did that for play and so I wouldn't be in a rut.Don't get set on "one-way-is-right". You may have to use all the techniques on a shoot so learn them all. I only shot swimming pools off-hand. I used a good carbon tripod and a geared Manfroto head. I used tilt-shift often but mostly a Nikon 14-24 f/2.8. Elevations I would often use a 24mm tilt-shift or a Nikon 24-70 f/2.8. I have used pole mounted cameras and I often had a tripod mounted on a hard surfaced deck mounted on my truck bed. That would give me 7' to 9' elevation.

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Jun 3, 2018 05:37:19   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Guyserman wrote:
How about one shot HDR. I take shots of people/events at an Alzheimer care facility with many windows opening to an interior courtyard. I expose for the windows or within one or two stops. I adjust the raw image to have the windows exposed like I want them and save a jpg. I re-adjust the raw image for the rest of the room and save a second jpg. Then in post processing I layer the two images and use masking to show the correctly exposed areas of the two layers. The layers align perfectly since they came from the same raw image. I can hand hold and get good images even of people who may be in motion. It takes some pp but it works for me. It could be used for RE photography by anyone with time on their hands. (I am strictly amateur.)
How about one shot HDR. I take shots of people/eve... (show quote)


With current wide dynamic range cameras and current raw converters, the need to do this is minimized. I used to do this when I owned a Nikon D200 back in 2007, but the D800/D810 has all the dynamic range I need, so I can take a single raw shot, and the results, particularly in the darker shadow areas is usually pretty good. That's what I did for the two views of the dining room.

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Jun 3, 2018 08:13:03   #
Sharona Loc: Alpharetta, Georgia
 
This describes my technique closely as a busy real estate photographer, except for the tilt shift lens and pole. I do vary the Iso between 125 and 400, aperture usually 7.1 indoors and 9-16 outside. Companies do the pp, however for one company I bracket 3 for exteriors in aperture priority mode and merge with photomatix using natural fusion setting, no tone mapping. This works well for interiors in rooms with darker interiors and bright windows, or anywhere I want a more premium result. I don't let the underexposed image get too dark, just enough to pull a window view. Too dark or using tone mapping can cause shadows, muddy uneven walls and ceilings. The shutter speed varies greatly on manual shots with ttl bounced flash. This is not Architectural Digest, but agents are very pleased with the photographs at the competitive price points. It is fairly high volume for me, but does not feel like work as it is so enjoyable. May upgrade to full frame in future but really not needed for this. I use Nikon D7100, Nikon 10-24 mm and sb700 speedlight with included diffuser, Manfrotto tripod with 410jr geared head.

DavidPine wrote:
I have found this topic interesting because I retired from shooting RE and architecture. From my experience, the subject property more or less demands how you are going to shoot it. HDR, strobe(s), shims, or a mix (flambient). Also, what you are being paid for the amount of time and effort you require to do the job. I don't like blown-out windows that are prevalent on architectural shoots but sometimes they are appropriate even on RE shoots. You are telling a story of a home and you are to convey a feeling that will attract someone to wish to preview it in person. Images are a hook and nothing more. The reason houses with excellent photographs sell quicker is because they often get more personal viewings. The key image, in my opinion, is the elevation image. The front of the house. Buyers often drive neighborhoods looking – they can't see inside but how the house looks from the outside often attracts them. The same applies to someone seeing a flyer, MLS image, facebook image or, newspaper image. That's about a 3 second hook to get them to look further. Some people shoot the interior to make it look huge. I have found that 18mm to 35mm works great. I usually shot a room using two points and always attempted to show a window (not blown). Sometimes a single point image works well. I seldom shot a room without having all the lights on. I have moved lightbulbs around when they messed up the white balance. I used mostly bounce flash because it worked well for me in most instances. I used f/7.1, ISO 320 and a shutter speed that varied greatly depending on the ambient light (1/30 to 1/200) and manual mode. If I had an entire shoot HDR I would use Aperture priority and 3 shots on 2 steps. I mostly did that for play and so I wouldn't be in a rut.Don't get set on "one-way-is-right". You may have to use all the techniques on a shoot so learn them all. I only shot swimming pools off-hand. I used a good carbon tripod and a geared Manfroto head. I used tilt-shift often but mostly a Nikon 14-24 f/2.8. Elevations I would often use a 24mm tilt-shift or a Nikon 24-70 f/2.8. I have used pole mounted cameras and I often had a tripod mounted on a hard surfaced deck mounted on my truck bed. That would give me 7' to 9' elevation.
I have found this topic interesting because I reti... (show quote)

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Jun 3, 2018 09:59:16   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
jackm1943 wrote:
In other words, lots of cameras today, including Canons, can do in-camera HDR.


Yes, Jack ... I think that's right - upper-level cameras, anyway ...

I did check my 60D and Rebel T4i - both bought in 2012 - but neither one has the feature (and the latter has a touch-screen) ....

Didn't bother to check the Rebel T3, though ....

But, I think you're right ... most MODERN DSLRs - have some kind of HDR ... even my Pentax K-50 - as you saw ....

The Sony models do it one better, though - with their Superior Auto setting ... which not only invokes HDR, but does a lot of other fine tuning, too ....

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Jun 3, 2018 12:03:15   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
canon Lee wrote:
Well finally I have a new and improved technique for shooting real estate interiors that have bight windows and dark interiors...
First of all I put my flash away, and took out my tripod... Yes I will be shooting ambient light without a flash... Here is how it is done.. With camera mounted on my tripod, I set my mode to Aperture, ( F8 to start just a guess) to get the shutter speed for the exposure.. I make sure that my camera light meter is "0", and then switch to Manual mode where I enter the settings.. I might have to center the bracketing back to center in order to get the correct Aperture, where I started out with F8, BTW I am using a Canon that has a "Q" button so that I can simplify & speed up changing the settings ( one of my complaints about Nikon) .. Then I set a +/- 2 stops bracketing. ( holding down the shutter release cable till all 3 shots are completed).... Then to LR for HDR. works like a charm. I know there are those pros out there that use expensive complicated lighting, but real estate agents are notoriously cheap and not that demanding... All they want are sharp well lit shots for the net..
I must say this technique is so simple, not depending on bouncing flash or relying on TTL ( which is not always correct), adding the weight of my Canon 580EXII... BADDA BOOK BADDA BOOM....
Well finally I have a new and improved technique f... (show quote)


Dilly Dilly

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Jun 3, 2018 12:10:25   #
canon Lee
 
Guyserman wrote:
I have used three shot bracketing on occasion but when shooting people hand held it just doesn't work for me. I don't have any of those high-powered HDR programs and Photoshop Elements does not do a very good job aligning the images. Sometimes I use fill flash but I like to do it the way I do for the best window results.


First of all you need a good tripod to take HDR.. Each image has to be aligned... For only $10.00 per month, you can download Adobe CC (creative cloud), and get LightRoom and Photoshop... LR will have HDR and merges.....
If you really want to do HDR, you will need to spend a few bucks...

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Jun 3, 2018 12:11:57   #
canon Lee
 
Indiana wrote:
Dilly Dilly


?????? dilly dilly????

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Jun 3, 2018 12:17:46   #
canon Lee
 
Indiana wrote:
Dilly Dilly

dilly 2 |ˈdɪli|
adjective (dillier, dilliest) Australian/NZ informal, dated
odd; foolish.

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Jun 3, 2018 12:31:39   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
canon Lee wrote:
dilly 2 |ˈdɪli|
adjective (dillier, dilliest) Australian/NZ informal, dated
odd; foolish.


He's in Indiana, though ... Huntington ....

Lee ... check out the Sony offerings ... you will save yourself a lotta trouble, My Friend ...


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Jun 3, 2018 13:52:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
canon Lee wrote:

If you really want to do HDR, you will need to spend a few bucks...


Unless you are already shooting on Sony .....

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Jun 3, 2018 14:09:24   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
Corporate does all the pp. no flash allowed. +/-2 her. Policy is to turn on all lights but this lady didn't believe in lightbulbs... No AC. Nor ice cubes. Quirky.


Gene just my opinion but these photos are to dark and look gloomy. Most folks walk into a house for sale and say what a bright room.
They like light and want to feel a little more of the dynamic experience.

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