Full Frame lenses on DX Cameras
May 30, 2018 09:49:03 #
NathanG wrote:
I am retired now and are able to spend more time w... (show quote)
In the Nikon world there’s no downside to using FF lenses on a DX body other than the cost. But there’s plenty of downside to using DX lenses on a full frame body.
May 30, 2018 09:57:26 #
jackpinoh
Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
NCMtnMan wrote:
As noted in a prior post, one real consideration i... (show quote)
If you believe that a 50mm FX lens has a different effect on a DX camera than a 50mm DX lens, you are incorrect. Both lenses will yield the same 75mm effective field of view. The FX lens does not give you more "reach" than a DX lens on a DX body.
May 30, 2018 09:59:20 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
therwol wrote:
If I mount a DX lens on my full frame D810, the ca... (show quote)
Sorry but your camera automatically goes to DX image area mode because you have set the control for it to do that. You can set it to not do that as well and that setting stays stuck through camera off cycles.
I suspect the D810, like my D800, has five image area modes (one is stealthy). Some work better with some DX lenses over parts of the zoom range.
Nontheless if you only own an FX camera then of course you should only buy FX lenses.
May 30, 2018 10:10:46 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
joer wrote:
I agree. Actually the D500 is a little better than the D850 in the DX mode. Click on the link to check your camera.
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
Can you explain why the dynamic range of the D850 would change when using the DX image area? Seems unrelated to me.
May 30, 2018 10:12:54 #
If you're thinking about putting three grand down on a full frame camera but can't afford a decent lens, I'd rethink your purchase. If you really want a good full frame camera, look for a good used D810. The savings will allow you to purchase a good used 24-70 f2.8 (non vr version) which is not the current edition. On a trip to New Mexico I never took that lens off my D800. Later, you can build your lens collection as you can afford it. Before getting a really expensive wide angle zoom, you might think about either the 18 or 20mm prime lens.
May 30, 2018 10:17:13 #
I'm seeing all kinds of answers here about what happens when you use a DX lens on a FF body. Anyway, I'd start acquiring FX lenses in the focal range that you think you'll like and when you've covered the focal range of the DX lenses, sell those and start saving for the D850. I'd keep both camera bodies though. Especially since that 500mm lens will come in handy when used on that D500 body. You'll appreciate the reach of that combination.
May 30, 2018 11:05:04 #
I also upgraded a year and a half ago from a D200 to a D500. I love it! I also have the nikon 200-500 f2.8 and it is the best lens I have. I also bought the Nikon 16-80 f2.8 with my D500 and it is so sharp and will keep up with the Nikon fast focus system. As well as the 200-500 does too. I will buy any future lens for full frame cameras. They work with the crop sensor also. It's just that the FX lens don't work with the DX cameras in full frame mode. You can set your FX cameras to DX mode when using a DX lens. I too want a D850 but it is a long way off with my budget. LOL.
May 30, 2018 11:20:40 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
throughrhettseyes wrote:
I also upgraded a year and a half ago from a D200 ... (show quote)
I suspect your 200-500 is f5.6.
May 30, 2018 11:44:15 #
A little different take: I use a D300S back, but discovered that better lenses make better pictures. I was using a Nikon 16-85 DX lens which was the original I purchased with the camera back. However, I discovered that I made better photos with my camera when I bit the bullet for a Nikon 24-70 / 2.8 lens. I have also seen a marked improvement when shooting with their 14-24 / 2.8 wide angle lens versus my DX 16-85. One issue is the cropped sensor versus the full frame. The other issue is the quality of Nikon primes and their best zoom lenses versus their other, less expensive ones. Full frame versus cropped frame is not the only thing. The "glass" is also a consideration. Enjoy your new D500.
May 30, 2018 12:05:18 #
I think people have given you good advice on DX vs FX lenses on a DX type camera--it amazes me how people think they need to get the new D850 camera, even though they have a perfectly good Nikon already (I have a D750, a D800 and a couple of old D80's --they all still serve their purposes well though in different ways) ----I really question how many people really need such an advanced model as the D850, which comes at a steep price!! If Nikon comes out with an even more advanced model at an even greater price, would a lot of people rush in to get it, when they already have adequate Nikkon gear just because it' the latest and greatest??
May 30, 2018 12:14:29 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Georgeski wrote:
I think people have given you good advice on DX vs... (show quote)
I think that if someone actually needs a high resolution DSLR and doesn't already have one, then buying the D850 makes sense. It's the current model. But that's the question. Is there really a need? I think that in many cases the answer will be no. Personally, I'm not going to waste any money on one when I already own a D810. I learned by spending 3 grand on the camera that it's way more than I need, but I'll keep using it because that's what I have.
May 30, 2018 12:23:16 #
The D850 should have the same dynamic range but just less pixels. But your pixel density is about the same as a D500 at any setting. Pixel density and image quality is want give you the best dynamic range. The D500 and the D850 have better dynamic ranges than the D5 and a faster focus system.
May 30, 2018 12:24:48 #
May 30, 2018 12:46:27 #
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
Charlie'smom wrote:
From what I’ve seen posted here and online, DX lenses don’t really work on FF cameras.
What you've seen is incorrect. I have the D850 and D500. DX lenses work just as well on the D850 as on the D500. In fact the camera automatically recognizes the lens as a DX lens and shows a semi-transparent edge around the DX frame in the viewfinder.
May 30, 2018 14:17:18 #
If you like your current camera and make good photos, why upgrade to a different body. Nikon, like others, will continue to put out newer and better bodies. That is the nature both of a good business model for the manufacturer and a very expensive desire to have the newest and greatest. If you find that your camera won't do do something you wish, then you can consider a change.
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