steelhorzz wrote:
Hello, Looking for some input....
First the background.
I'm here in Romania, on vacation, and my Canon EF-S 18-135 lens is going "belly up". (Its over 15 years old.). It's jamming from wide angle to telephoto, and the auto focus isn't working well either.
I'm making do, and I do have my 10-22, and my 70-200L with me.
When I arrive home, I'm going to purchase a new "walk around" lens.
Now here's where I'm looking for input.
My camera is a 7D Mkll.
I'm was thinking of getting another EF-S 18-35, I've done well with it over the years.
Then I was looking at a EF 28-135 as it 72mm vs, 67mm
And it may give me more light in certain situations. And a little more magnification as mine is a crop sensor.
Then I just saw there is a EF-S 18-200mm
And thought it might be a good all around lens as I could do indoor shots with the 18mm wide angle, and it would give me a bit more distance going up to 200mm.
Was just wondering if as they say....
"You can't be all things to all people".
And maybe the quality would be not as well as expected.
So if you have any info on any of these lenses, personal experience, recommendations, horror stories, I'd appreciate hearing.
Thanks for your input!
Hello, Looking for some input.... br First the bac... (
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Too many options to choose among!
Here are some pros and cons, and some additional possibilities:
Option 1. Replace your EF-S 18-135mm. If yours is fifteen years old, it's the first version with the slower & noisier micro motor auto focus. The newer "STM" version and newest "USM" version both use an improved optical formula for better image quality than the first version of the lens. In addition, STM focus drive is quicker and quieter than micro motor. And USM is even faster still (Canon claims it's 2X to 4X faster focusng than STM). Both the newer lenses also are closer focusing. So if your original version served you well, very likely you'd be quite happy with either of the newer versions. I don't know what they sell for there, but in the U.S. the STM is selling for $400 new and the USM for $600. The STM is pretty easy to find discounted or used. The USM has only been around a year or two, so is harder to find used or discounted.
2. The EF 28-135mm IS USM is a decent lens, but it is now discontinued and was a hold-over from the days of film. Still, there are a lot of them around that can be bought used for relatively little money. And it rivals the 24-105L (first version) for image quality, AF speed, stabilization and close focus ability. It doesn't seem as well built (is more plasticky), but actually has proven to be just about as durable as that particular L, too. The 28-135 has very good IQ throughout most of it's range, but gets a little soft all the way out at 135mm, benefits from being stopped down to f/8 (the two more recent 18-135s seem sharper at 135mm). The 28-135mm can work quite well and often is a bargain used, at around $200.
HOWEVER, this lens is an f/3.5 to f/5.6, same as all the 18-135s, so there's no light to be gained with it. Exposures would be the same, regardless of the larger diameter filter the 28-135 uses.
It also won't give you "more magnification".... 135mm is 135mm. This is true with all focal lengths and lenses, not just these two. Any given focal length will be the same on your camera, regardless of whether the lense was designed for crop sensor or full frame.
3. Canon offers a very good EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM. I'd normally recommend that to anyone who needs wider than the 17 or 18mm most zooms of this type offer, but doesn't want to buy and carry around a separate lens... However, you already have the excellent EF-S 10-22mm, so this probably isn't a good option for you.
4a. It sounds as if you're struggling to get enough light in many situations. If you want to gather more light with your walk around zoom, you'll need one that offers larger apertures... f/2.8, f/2 or f/1.8. The "problems" with these are that they have narrower ranges of focal lengths, are larger and heavier, and they tend to cost a lot more. An excellent choice and good example is the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8... top image quality and a faster f/2.8 throughout it's range (2/3 stop faster than your current zoom at the wide end... and even more at 55mm). That lens uses 77mm filters and costs $900. Other possibilities include several 24-70mm f/2.8 (Canon and others) and even a Sigma 24-35mm f/2 offering another full stop of brightness or a Tamron 18-35mm f/1.8 offering an additional one and a third stop of light. Note that these really fast zooms have even narrower ranges of focal lengths... and that they have protruding, convex front elements that prevent using standard filters.... and they have A LOT of glass in them, making them quite large and heavy.
4b. Another approach to low light conditions is to get one or two fast prime lenses to supplement a more modest walk-around zoom. Those primes (i.e., not zooms), can be a lot more affordable, smaller and lighter. For example, there are 20mm f/2.8, 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f1.8, 35mm f/2, 40mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8.... all of which are reasonable size and cost. There are even a few super compact "pancake" prime lenses. (There are also even "faster" primes such as 24mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.2, 85mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.2... but those are A LOT bigger & heavier and FAR more expensive.)
5. "Do everything" zooms like the EF-S 18-200mm and some third party lenses others have mentioned generally will be slower focusing and not offer as good image quality as many of the above, less extreme lenses. Extreme range focal length zooms also tend to be miserable for low light conditions. If you're struggling now with an f/5.6 lens, just imagine what it will be like trying to use an even slower f/6.3! If you are starting to suspect I'm not a fan... you're right! "Do everything" lenses make no sense to me. I bought an interchangeable lens camera to be able to change lenses and adapt the camera for different situations! If I'd wanted a "do it all", I'd have gotten a much less expensive non-interchangeable lens "point n shoot" camera! Besides, you don't "gain" anything with the 18-200mm.... since you already have a 70-200mm.
Of all the above, considering your other lenses, need for better low light performance.... If the cost isn't an issue, I'd get the excellent Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM. The best alternative would be to replace your 18-135mm with one of the newer versions and add one or two fast primes to handle those low light situations.
Hope this helps!