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May 16, 2018 11:14:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
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May 16, 2018 14:13:42   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
selmslie wrote:
In fact, he did not say it was BS. Geezer7 just asked for clarification on what he thought he heard.

The only questionable statement was that, "... he also stated that the use of manual results in richer colors." I doubt that this was precisely what the teacher was trying to convey. Several of us commented that a manual or automatic exposure could easily result in the same combination of ISO, aperture and shutter speed. Since the teacher was promoting the use of manual exposure, it's pretty clear that he was referring to informed use of manual exposure.

So far as richer colors are concerned, I already covered that question here.

Jumping to conclusions based on incomplete information is always risky. That's why I suggested, "I would cut the teacher some slack."
In fact, he did not say it was BS. Geezer7 just a... (show quote)

I didn't want to give the impression that I was dissatisfied with the free seminars. In fact the first one gave me a lot of ideas for improving portraits. I simply wanted to get your opinion on b&w methodology and the questionable statement regarding richer colors in manual mode. All in all I was satisfied with the couple of hours spent on sea days when exploring ports was not an option. I do know exactly what was said but it really did not detract from the overall experience.
Thanks for all your comments.
By the way someone stated that I could set my D7100 to display b&w while still saving RAW files. I have searched through the menus and see no setting which would allow this. Any help in this matter would be appreciated.

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May 16, 2018 14:40:25   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
geezer7 wrote:
I didn't want to give the impression that I was dissatisfied with the free seminars. In fact the first one gave me a lot of ideas for improving portraits. I simply wanted to get your opinion on b&w methodology and the questionable statement regarding richer colors in manual mode. All in all I was satisfied with the couple of hours spent on sea days when exploring ports was not an option. I do know exactly what was said but it really did not detract from the overall experience.
Thanks for all your comments.
By the way someone stated that I could set my D7100 to display b&w while still saving RAW files. I have searched through the menus and see no setting which would allow this. Any help in this matter would be appreciated.
I didn't want to give the impression that I was di... (show quote)

Most Nikons allow you to save NEF or JPEG or both. Look in the user manual for the topic Image Quality and Size.

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May 16, 2018 15:45:29   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
selmslie wrote:
Most Nikons allow you to save NEF or JPEG or both. Look in the user manual for the topic Image Quality and Size.


Thanks. I know how to save RAW and jpg but not sure how to make the jpg monochrome at the same time!

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May 16, 2018 15:51:43   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
If you are interested in improving you portraiture, please join us in the "Advanced & Professional Portraiture" section of the UHH forum. It's for all interested members. Just go to "All Sections", scroll down, click on, subscribe and you're in!

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May 16, 2018 16:13:23   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
geezer7 wrote:
Thanks. I know how to save RAW and jpg but not sure how to make the jpg monochrome at the same time!

Look under Image Enhancement, Selecting a Picture Control. Monochrome (B&W) is a separate option that only affects the JPEG. You can still get a NEF (raw) at the same time.

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May 16, 2018 16:40:57   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
selmslie wrote:
Look under Image Enhancement, Selecting a Picture Control. Monochrome (B&W) is a separate option that only affects the JPEG. You can still get a NEF (raw) at the same time.


Thanks. I found it on page 105 of the manual.

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May 16, 2018 16:42:18   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
If you are interested in improving you portraiture, please join us in the "Advanced & Professional Portraiture" section of the UHH forum. It's for all interested members. Just go to "All Sections", scroll down, click on, subscribe and you're in!

I'll check out that section. I am by no means a professional but I'm sure I'll learn plenty.

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May 16, 2018 16:54:25   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't shoot B&W so no comment here. As for the color richer in manual mode if I were in the class I would ask him why and how. It could simply be that the meter in his camera is out of whack and to get correct exposure he would have to use manual mode. Of course there are teachers that would say I don't know why but it just work.

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May 16, 2018 17:18:58   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't shoot B&W so no comment here. As for the color richer in manual mode if I were in the class I would ask him why and how. It could simply be that the meter in his camera is out of whack and to get correct exposure he would have to use manual mode. Of course there are teachers that would say I don't know why but it just work.

I had occasion to ask a technical question and the instructor said he was more artistic than technical so I didn't pursue it any further. It really was a low level event aimed at mostly point and shooters. It was a very friendly environment and I didn't feel the need to be confrontational. The purpose of this post was to verify that my understanding of the b&w and richer colors issues was correct!

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