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May 9, 2018 19:01:43   #
fhadfield
 
Read um and weep.

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/boy-scouts-lose-425000-boys-name/?um_source=Email&utm_medium=rightalerts&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=ttp

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May 9, 2018 19:06:56   #
eindhovenha Loc: Sugar Land, Texas
 
That is a false statement. It is not that easy as you think. There are structure in place - Patrol Leader, Senior Patrol Leader, tent buddies assignment, buddies check, etc...... Most likely, campground assignments will be in a separate area once the girls joined on board. Remember, they will have their own troop so it is not a mix troop like Venture. We just need to wait once the final details are in place. Of course, it is never a bullet proof system. Worked with our youth over the past 15 + years, I have only experienced 2 bad apples over ~ 500 kids. That's about 0.004%. Everything starts out at the home..........

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May 9, 2018 19:09:24   #
eindhovenha Loc: Sugar Land, Texas
 
Nothing wrong with the article that you have shared. It's a personal choice and I fully support that. Thanks for sharing.

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May 9, 2018 19:33:29   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Yes let girls join the boy scouts


It is terrible what the democrats are doing to America.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a20629985/mormon-church-boy-scouts/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI-f6VcuIl8

http://www.americanindependent.com/219725/after-new-policy-boy-scouts-still-losing-money-sponsors

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May 9, 2018 19:48:34   #
fhadfield
 
By democrats do you mean left leaning, socialistic, tree hugging, wacko sons of bitches?

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May 9, 2018 19:50:41   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fhadfield wrote:
By democrats do you mean left leaning, socialistic, tree hugging, wacko sons of bitches?


Is there anything else? If you vote democrat that is your allegiance.

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May 9, 2018 19:58:00   #
fhadfield
 
Before I ever vote democrat I'll cut off my balls with a dull rusty knife.

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May 9, 2018 20:05:20   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
fhadfield wrote:
Before I ever vote democrat I'll cut off my balls with a dull rusty knife.



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May 10, 2018 02:30:43   #
eindhovenha Loc: Sugar Land, Texas
 
fhadfield - On pc mode now, I can further explain about LDS leaving BSA programs. LDS has ~ 16 millions members all over the world. Ultimately, LDS would like 1 youth program for an entire world. In the past and til today, LDS disliked current BSA programs because every country has their own version; programs are not the same as a whole.

About the name changed........The news has mis-informed the public. BSA name still remain the same as an overall organization. The name that we heard "Scouts of America" - is for incoming girls that would like to join BSA/ to learn BSA skills/ to pursue the trial to Eagle. This will be under the BSA umbrella.

S.O.M. will be an identical structure as the current BSA, they will have their own SM, ASM, SPL, ASPL, PL, etc...... host their own meetings....... There will be time Troops(boys & girls) will do activities together (just like any 2 Troop).

Our society has changed; ie - No bully campaign at school or 0%. Kids learned to get along, play with one another, etc..... The new generation is not like the old. More and more families would like to do thing together as a family; especially a single Mom or a single Dad. There are high demand.

There is nothing wrong with the current Girlscouts program. It's just not for every girls. It's possible because of their Dad, Uncle, Grandfather, sibling or friends were in BSA and they got to know and like the program. I have worked with several female leaders at District, Council and National level, they were great with the Boyscouts.

BSA programs teaches life skills and leadership to the Youth. If you were in scouting or know of then you would know how prepared the boys are when they completed the program. Simply amazing young leader.

If you are not familiar - 7 ranks > Scout > Tenderfoot > 2nd Class > 1st Class > Star > Life > Eagle. You have various amount of requirement under each rank. Each time a Scout completed/master their skill then a Board of Review to follow. This is where one will pass or fail. Just visualize a youth at an age 10/11/12/13 -17 walk into a room full of strange Adults. Can be 2-5 Adults, Adults that they never meet before(some from their troop, their district, and/or their council). The process can take up to 5 minutes - 1.5 hours long depends on the rank advancement. The Adults take turn to ask questions, etc....afterwards, they will give a final consensus - to advance a Scout or not ready to advance............... just visualize this. Later into the program, a Scout has become an expert with communication skills. This will come in handy later in life when they go for a job interview and/or to communicate with Adults in general. Girlscouts do not have this structure. Another reason, they like the BSA structure. Overall 2 great programs - BSA and GSA but different flavors for certain youth.

Who knows may be one day the boys can join Girlscouts to learn their skills. Overall, no one like changes................. for sure BSA doing their best to stay up to date in today society. Our old ways of thinking is slowly irrelevant in today Youth and society at large. God bless America and God bless the BSA.

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May 10, 2018 06:36:56   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
eindhovenha wrote:
Wow, so many (-) comments. In my opinion (please don't throw tomatoes at me), major issues for the girls in Scouting (#1) when they reached their highest rank/award in Girlscout known as the Gold Award. For Venture Scout(boys & girls >14 years of age) known as Silver Award. The general public is not aware or knows its meaning/value. If one mention "Eagle Scout" from BSA then the general public knows more of/heard of. (#2) Families have sibling. 1 in BSA & 1 in GScout. Can be difficult for the families. (#3) BSA program will shape/re-shape our youth into a future leader in more details then the Girlscouts program. For an example >Trial to Eagle, one has to advance 7 ranks, completed 21 merit badges out of 137 merit badges (13 mb are Eagle required - Camping, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Cooking, Emergency Preparedness or Lifesaving, Environmental Science or Sustainability, Family Life, First Aid, Personal Fitness, Personal Management, Swimming, Hiking or Cycling); in addition an Eagle Project for his community. Plus, 16 months of Leadership within his Troop. One has to complete this before turn 18 years of age. (#4) BSA programs offered much fun stuff at an early age of 10 years old(arrow of light cross from cubscout) or at 11 years of age (new scout) - rifle, shotgun, climbing, hiking, fishing, biking, boating, wwrafting, jet ski, now ATV, etc........ vs Girlscout. They introduce a few of this at way later stage. Right now, the girls can join cubscouts but they will have separate den (male den & female den). BSA will be next year in 2019, with separate troop (male troop & female troop). The rest of the world already have this in place. I know it's a shocker to all of us. Yes, there is some (+) and (-) in this migration. In the end, our youth need us to help, to guide, to lead them to a better future. Without us, they are doom. Remember, they are the innocent one. Thanks for the forum.
YIS (yours in scouting).
Wow, so many (-) comments. In my opinion (please ... (show quote)


Acceptance is not always an improvement. In fact if you embrace evil then you not only allow evil but become evil yourself. The Boys Scouts have succumb to the pressure put on the by the liberals. It is not that the liberals want to become better, they want to change the program so that they will feel accepted with all of their perversions. If the liberals like the program why not change to meet the requirement of the program instead of degrading the program to fit your low standards. No one benefits if the standards are lowered, no one. It is like having a Lamborghini and someone wants to sell you an old run down rusty old truck. And do to compassions you buy it with all of its problems but what makes it worse is you sell your Lamborghini. The Boys Scouts created their great program many long years ago and the GS can do the same. But it looks to me like because they do not want to change with the circumstances both programs will now suffer. So where do we put the blame? It took many years for the BS to become what they have become but the others now want to hijack their programs because it is easier, less costly, less problematic. But now they have created more problems than they have solved. Too some morals, virtue, ethics and values supersede everything else. One can accept the problems as they have become and even rationalize them into thinking they are good but others will never see it that way. It is like America we were the #1 country in the world and some think they can turn it into a third world country and have tried their best to do so, all the while thinking they have made an improvement. They never want to elevate the good but bring them down to the other level. But as long as they are in charge it must be good.

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May 10, 2018 08:48:56   #
eindhovenha Loc: Sugar Land, Texas
 
@paulrph1 - Well stated.

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May 10, 2018 10:22:49   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The stated goal by all democrats is to destroy masculinity in America.
This is the next step.
They have been openly attacking the Boy Scouts for at least a decade now.
One of the largest supporters of Boy Scouts has left it.
This was a year ago, I will bet they now completely abandon the Scouts.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865679711/Mormons-drop-Scout-programs-for-older-teens.html

Too bad as Baden Powell is rolling over in his grave at the degeneration of the manly organization he founded.
The stated goal by all democrats is to destroy mas... (show quote)


Architect, I agree with you on this one. As a further thought, it was wonderful that men mentored young boys on how to be good men. It was a male experience and females have no place there. I do view it as an attack on men and masculinity. Democrats want EVERYONE TO BE INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING, after all, THAT'S WHO WE ARE! RIGHT?? Libtard political correctness at it's worst. It is a dis service to young men in this country and they will be the losers. The country will lose. My son was a scout and it was a wonderful experience, sad to see it go down the libtard path.

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May 10, 2018 11:19:27   #
fhadfield
 
Too bad all liberals aren't illegal aliens so we could deport them all.

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May 10, 2018 15:38:49   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
Why don't the Girl Scouts adopt the same program as what the Boy Scouts have? What's going to happen to the Girl Scouts now?

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May 10, 2018 15:54:12   #
fhadfield
 
Unless I'm wrong, the libs running the programs want to combine both scout groups into one.

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