p/p/ is probably post production computer manipulation
i try to do my pics in camera
I like the orange dragonfly, nice n sharp without a cluttered background.
your right about not being able to pose a shy insect, but trying a different angle to change the background to make the micro critter stand out.
i read about a magazine photographer(underwater) who now relys on auto focus because of his "old" eyes. experiment with both find out what works for you, put yoor camera on manual and choose the focus point.
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
silver wrote:
Quite frankly I looked at your images and a lot of them do not look like they are really tach sharp.
Please, please post some of your macro-photography, so we all may benefit from veiwing your work. Or post a link to a website with your macro-photography.
Time to put-up or shut-up.
Hello, Here are some of my macro images. Tech info as follows. Pentax LX camera using Pentax 100mm macro lens and an older Tamron 180 manual lens. I used a Mets strobe for the strobe images and some of the images are hand held and some are with a tripod. I no longer have this camera and lenses, I now shoot digital with a Nikon D700. Let me know what you think. The slides were scanned using an Imacon scanner with minimal sharpening.
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I'm sorry to say this, but after following this thread Silver I think you need to look at some of the other peoples work.
I'm not trying to be mean, or hurt your feeling, but, it's just not happening for me. It has nothing to do with sharpness, it's just the lighting and the composition need improvement.
Do you have some shots that you've have done some P/P to?
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Hello, When doing this kind of photography of insects in the field you just dont have the pleasure of having them pose for you. You also dont have the pleasure of perfect lighting. You have to get what you can. My feelings are not hurt at all, I have shown my work a lot and there is always somebody that does not like what I do. Thats what showing your work opens you up to. By the way, have you guessed which image is not an insect or spider? What is P/P/
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Point taken, and if you think I don't realize that they won't pose for you, well clearly you think very little of me or consider me a complete moron.
Taking shots of insects is very difficut photograpy. Which is why most people throw away about a hundred or more before they get a good shot. Then they start over tryng to get the next shot.
My point, which I obvious fail to make, is that the pictures are slightly over exposed and that the croping could be better on them. Also, if the little critters did not pose for you, then maybe you should not show the shot as an expample of good macro photography. Wait and take more and when you do get a good shot (which some of them could be with a little P/P) show those.
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
silver wrote:
Quite frankly I looked at your images and a lot of them do not look like they are really tach sharp.
Please, please post some of your macro-photography, so we all may benefit from veiwing your work. Or post a link to a website with your macro-photography.
Time to put-up or shut-up.
Hello, Here are some of my macro images. Tech info as follows. Pentax LX camera using Pentax 100mm macro lens and an older Tamron 180 manual lens. I used a Mets strobe for the strobe images and some of the images are hand held and some are with a tripod. I no longer have this camera and lenses, I now shoot digital with a Nikon D700. Let me know what you think. The slides were scanned using an Imacon scanner with minimal sharpening.
quote=Nikonian72 quote=silver Quite frankly I lo... (
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I'm sorry to say this, but after following this thread Silver I think you need to look at some of the other peoples work.
I'm not trying to be mean, or hurt your feeling, but, it's just not happening for me. It has nothing to do with sharpness, it's just the lighting and the composition need improvement.
Do you have some shots that you've have done some P/P to?
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Hello, When doing this kind of photography of insects in the field you just dont have the pleasure of having them pose for you. You also dont have the pleasure of perfect lighting. You have to get what you can. My feelings are not hurt at all, I have shown my work a lot and there is always somebody that does not like what I do. Thats what showing your work opens you up to. By the way, have you guessed which image is not an insect or spider? What is P/P/
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Point taken, and if you think I don't realize that they won't pose for you, well clearly you think very little of me or consider me a complete moron.
Taking shots of insects is very difficut photograpy. Which is why most people throw away about a hundred or more before they get a good shot. Then they start over tryng to get the next shot.
My point, which I obvious fail to make, is that the pictures are slightly over exposed and that the croping could be better on them. Also, if the little critters did not pose for you, then maybe you should not show the shot as an expample of good macro photography. Wait and take more and when you do get a good shot (which some of them could be with a little P/P) show those.
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Hello, I really dont think that there is a perfect way to construct a macro shot of an insect or a spider. Personally I find this kind of photography a little boring because it is so easy to do. I did this for a while and I sold a few of these images but the market is small for this kind of photography. Anyway, you cant satisfy everybody. By the way, I never shot more then 5 or 6 images for each shot, not hundreds. The reason for shooting more then one shot was for exposure not content. I kind of like my images so go figure. My image making has changed over the years and I no longer do this kind of imaging altho digital capture is perfect for this because additional frames cost nothing to shoot. I didnt have any problems doing this kind of photography, there are insects and spiders all over the place, you just have to look. Its a very easy technique, I was able to shoot lets say 5 rolls of film and out of the 5 rolls I had probably 50 percent usable frames and the only differences were exposure differences. I could shoot many different subjects with no problem. Also dont forget that the images I showed were scanned images and determining proper viewing for every monitor is kind of hard. Many people dont have calibrated systems and what shows up on my screen will not be the same as what shows up on other screens. Insects and spiders dont pose, you have to take what you can get. By the way, I never photoshop my images.
If you can provide constructive criticism on how to improve any of my macro-photography, I am willing to learn.[/quote]
I can't fault your macro abilities but have 2 questions after looking at your site, these are questions to help me learn..(and I'm srry to do it in this post but you did ask)...First why do macro photographers never follow the rule of thirds, seems like it might make a more interesting photo,, and secondly why crop the legs off on the spiders or the abdomen of this or that ..again I am only asking because i am really interested in macro and am trying to learn
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
silver wrote:
Quite frankly I looked at your images and a lot of them do not look like they are really tach sharp.
Please, please post some of your macro-photography, so we all may benefit from veiwing your work. Or post a link to a website with your macro-photography.
Time to put-up or shut-up.
Hello, Here are some of my macro images. Tech info as follows. Pentax LX camera using Pentax 100mm macro lens and an older Tamron 180 manual lens. I used a Mets strobe for the strobe images and some of the images are hand held and some are with a tripod. I no longer have this camera and lenses, I now shoot digital with a Nikon D700. Let me know what you think. The slides were scanned using an Imacon scanner with minimal sharpening.
quote=Nikonian72 quote=silver Quite frankly I lo... (
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I'm sorry to say this, but after following this thread Silver I think you need to look at some of the other peoples work.
I'm not trying to be mean, or hurt your feeling, but, it's just not happening for me. It has nothing to do with sharpness, it's just the lighting and the composition need improvement.
Do you have some shots that you've have done some P/P to?
quote=silver quote=Nikonian72 quote=silver Quit... (
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Hello, When doing this kind of photography of insects in the field you just dont have the pleasure of having them pose for you. You also dont have the pleasure of perfect lighting. You have to get what you can. My feelings are not hurt at all, I have shown my work a lot and there is always somebody that does not like what I do. Thats what showing your work opens you up to. By the way, have you guessed which image is not an insect or spider? What is P/P/
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Point taken, and if you think I don't realize that they won't pose for you, well clearly you think very little of me or consider me a complete moron.
Taking shots of insects is very difficut photograpy. Which is why most people throw away about a hundred or more before they get a good shot. Then they start over tryng to get the next shot.
My point, which I obvious fail to make, is that the pictures are slightly over exposed and that the croping could be better on them. Also, if the little critters did not pose for you, then maybe you should not show the shot as an expample of good macro photography. Wait and take more and when you do get a good shot (which some of them could be with a little P/P) show those.
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Hello, I really dont think that there is a perfect way to construct a macro shot of an insect or a spider. Personally I find this kind of photography a little boring because it is so easy to do. I did this for a while and I sold a few of these images but the market is small for this kind of photography. Anyway, you cant satisfy everybody. By the way, I never shot more then 5 or 6 images for each shot, not hundreds. The reason for shooting more then one shot was for exposure not content. I kind of like my images so go figure. My image making has changed over the years and I no longer do this kind of imaging altho digital capture is perfect for this because additional frames cost nothing to shoot. I didnt have any problems doing this kind of photography, there are insects and spiders all over the place, you just have to look. Its a very easy technique, I was able to shoot lets say 5 rolls of film and out of the 5 rolls I had probably 50 percent usable frames and the only differences were exposure differences. I could shoot many different subjects with no problem. Also dont forget that the images I showed were scanned images and determining proper viewing for every monitor is kind of hard. Many people dont have calibrated systems and what shows up on my screen will not be the same as what shows up on other screens. Insects and spiders dont pose, you have to take what you can get. By the way, I never photoshop my images.
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:D Okay, I did not realize that you shot these with film, I must have miss that. My mistake, sorry. Considering what you are saying I feel you did a good job. Rach
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Rachel wrote:
silver wrote:
Nikonian72 wrote:
silver wrote:
Quite frankly I looked at your images and a lot of them do not look like they are really tach sharp.
Please, please post some of your macro-photography, so we all may benefit from veiwing your work. Or post a link to a website with your macro-photography.
Time to put-up or shut-up.
Hello, Here are some of my macro images. Tech info as follows. Pentax LX camera using Pentax 100mm macro lens and an older Tamron 180 manual lens. I used a Mets strobe for the strobe images and some of the images are hand held and some are with a tripod. I no longer have this camera and lenses, I now shoot digital with a Nikon D700. Let me know what you think. The slides were scanned using an Imacon scanner with minimal sharpening.
quote=Nikonian72 quote=silver Quite frankly I lo... (
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I'm sorry to say this, but after following this thread Silver I think you need to look at some of the other peoples work.
I'm not trying to be mean, or hurt your feeling, but, it's just not happening for me. It has nothing to do with sharpness, it's just the lighting and the composition need improvement.
Do you have some shots that you've have done some P/P to?
quote=silver quote=Nikonian72 quote=silver Quit... (
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Hello, When doing this kind of photography of insects in the field you just dont have the pleasure of having them pose for you. You also dont have the pleasure of perfect lighting. You have to get what you can. My feelings are not hurt at all, I have shown my work a lot and there is always somebody that does not like what I do. Thats what showing your work opens you up to. By the way, have you guessed which image is not an insect or spider? What is P/P/
quote=Rachel quote=silver quote=Nikonian72 quo... (
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Point taken, and if you think I don't realize that they won't pose for you, well clearly you think very little of me or consider me a complete moron.
Taking shots of insects is very difficut photograpy. Which is why most people throw away about a hundred or more before they get a good shot. Then they start over tryng to get the next shot.
My point, which I obvious fail to make, is that the pictures are slightly over exposed and that the croping could be better on them. Also, if the little critters did not pose for you, then maybe you should not show the shot as an expample of good macro photography. Wait and take more and when you do get a good shot (which some of them could be with a little P/P) show those.
quote=silver quote=Rachel quote=silver quote=N... (
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Hello, I really dont think that there is a perfect way to construct a macro shot of an insect or a spider. Personally I find this kind of photography a little boring because it is so easy to do. I did this for a while and I sold a few of these images but the market is small for this kind of photography. Anyway, you cant satisfy everybody. By the way, I never shot more then 5 or 6 images for each shot, not hundreds. The reason for shooting more then one shot was for exposure not content. I kind of like my images so go figure. My image making has changed over the years and I no longer do this kind of imaging altho digital capture is perfect for this because additional frames cost nothing to shoot. I didnt have any problems doing this kind of photography, there are insects and spiders all over the place, you just have to look. Its a very easy technique, I was able to shoot lets say 5 rolls of film and out of the 5 rolls I had probably 50 percent usable frames and the only differences were exposure differences. I could shoot many different subjects with no problem. Also dont forget that the images I showed were scanned images and determining proper viewing for every monitor is kind of hard. Many people dont have calibrated systems and what shows up on my screen will not be the same as what shows up on other screens. Insects and spiders dont pose, you have to take what you can get. By the way, I never photoshop my images.
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:D Okay, I did not realize that you shot these with film, I must have miss that. My mistake, sorry. Considering what you are saying I feel you did a good job. Rach
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Hello Rach. I would do the same images if I was doing digital capture or film. The technique is the same. The only difference would be that I probably would shoot a few more images with film because of exposure compensation. Like I said I dont even do thid kind of photography any more because it is really boring for me right now. My specialty is B&W with silver printing and digital printing. I own a pro lab and I offer both digital and traditional B&W printing services.
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If you can provide constructive criticism on how to improve any of my macro-photography, I am willing to learn.
I can't fault your macro abilities but have 2 questions after looking at your site, these are questions to help me learn..(and I'm srry to do it in this post but you did ask)...First why do macro photographers never follow the rule of thirds, seems like it might make a more interesting photo,, and secondly why crop the legs off on the spiders or the abdomen of this or that ..again I am only asking because i am really interested in macro and am trying to learn[/quote]
When you are photographing these subjects you have to take what you can get. Little critters dont pose, you can only do your best as to framing. Sometimes its interesting to create interesting images by just showing parts other then the whole. There are no rules when it comes to creating images, only whats interesting. The rule of thirds I would say pertains more to landscape photography. With photography rules are made to be broken. Experiment and create interesting perspectives. Be daring and create your own vision and look.
Nikonian72 wrote:
silver wrote:
Quite frankly I looked at your images and a lot of them do not look like they are really tach sharp.
Please, please post some of your macro-photography, so we all may benefit from veiwing your work. Or post a link to a website with your macro-photography.
Time to put-up or shut-up.
Hello Nikon, Well I have waited a while for you to respond to my Macro images and I never heard from you about them so I just want to find out your thoughts regarding my post in response to your "put up or shut up" quote. I posted about 10 images and I never heard back from you and I just want to know if I did "put up or shut up".
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