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May 7, 2018 09:23:50   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Brucej67 wrote:
May I suggest this mono-pod https://sirui-photo.com.au/product/sirui-ep-224s-carbon-fiber-multi-function-photovideo-monopod/ . I have it and use it with my Sigma 150-600mm Sport lens and D850 and it is stable with the 3 extended feet. I also have a Sirui head on the tripod that affords me to carry the lens, camera and tripod over my shoulder when walking.

Thanks for the link- I will look at it.

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May 7, 2018 09:27:46   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Raptor wrote:
Good morning. I have enjoyed reading your postings for some time. Thanks for all the teaching. I have a real problem. I shoot with a Sony A68 and usually use a Tamron 18-270
lens. I belong to a photography club and enjoy mostly nature photography and wildlife.
Last week I bought a Tamron 150-600 lens in anticipation of my trip to the Black Water Wildlife Refuge in Md. Practicing with the lens I have discovered I physically cannot handle or carry my camera and the lens. 70.2 oz. I have scoliosis and this is too much weight. I cannot hold lens up. Mounting on tripod does not address the problem. I want to find out if I have any options for wildlife photography other than this lens. By the way, this is the lens of choice for our amazing bird shooting members. It is not for me.
I fleetingly thought of selling my Sony gear and and starting over with another brand but the investment required may be out of my reach.
Thanks for any advice.
Good morning. I have enjoyed reading your posting... (show quote)


Raptor, you have come to the right place to solve your concerns !

I shoot Sony A77II. I use the Sigma 100-300 f4 with it and using 1.1-2X Clear Image Zoom giving me 100-600mm f4 range and f-stop. It is an astounding lens ! The Sigma is smaller than a 150-600 but still has some size and weight to it - it is about $500 used - when you can find one in Sony/Minolta

As mentioned earlier, the Minolta 500 AF Reflex is also a great lens ! Small, light, easy to carry ! But, because of the 500mm magnification, you will need some form of mechanical stabilization to use it successfully ! It has NO tripod collar (what were the designers thinking ? ! ) - which complicates applying mechanical stabilization. I make a special L bracket that mostly solves this problem. I also make a facial stabilizer that also helps. PM me.

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with 500AF Reflex and big crop
with 500AF Reflex and big crop...
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Sigma 100-300 f4 @ f4 W/1.7X CIZ (510mm) from bodypod
Sigma 100-300 f4 @ f4 W/1.7X CIZ (510mm) from body...
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May 7, 2018 09:46:50   #
Silverman Loc: Michigan
 
imagemeister wrote:
Raptor, you have come to the right place to solve your concerns !

I shoot Sony A77II. I use the Sigma 100-300 f4 with it and using 1.1-2X Clear Image Zoom giving me 100-600mm f4 range and f-stop. It is an astounding lens ! The Sigma is smaller than a 150-600 but still has some size and weight to it - it is about $500 used - when you can find one in Sony/Minolta

As mentioned earlier, the Minolta 500 AF Reflex is also a great lens ! Small, light, easy to carry ! But, because of the 500mm magnification, you will need some form of mechanical stabilization to use it successfully ! It has NO tripod collar (what were the designers thinking ? ! ) - which complicates applying mechanical stabilization. I make a special L bracket that mostly solves this problem. I also make a facial stabilizer that also helps. PM me.

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Raptor, you have come to the right place to solve ... (show quote)


Excellent Tiger, Bokeh is great.

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May 7, 2018 10:13:53   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Unfortunately Sony doesn’t make a lot Lens for your A68 I know you said you would like to stay with Sony best of luck to sir.

As for your disabilities I hope you can find some way for it to work.


Raptor wrote:
I have 2 good tripods, a Mephoto and a heavy duty Vanguard. The issue is pain...carrying the lens both on the camera and in my camera backpack.
Handheld creates immediate pain and using a monopod hampers my mobility as birds tend not to be stationary. I was walking in the Heinz Refuge recently and we walked, about 1.5 miles, stalking our quarry. Some folks had the big bad lens and some had other long lenses. My philosophy for buying camera equipment is to purchase something I will be able to enjoy for years, unless I get the urge to upgrade. I have upgraded my sony dslr 3 times. Because of the $$ invested, I would like to stay with the Sony product line if possible. Plus, that cam
ra takes some amazing pictures.
So, if that long lens is giving me a problem now, what happens down the road if my back problems worsen? I am not 30 anymore, although in my head I am 39. LOL. Thanks for the feedback.
PS I have a home PT program that I do regularly.
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May 7, 2018 10:23:21   #
agillot
 
looking at those pictures , those 2 cameras are a viable option .nice and sharp .the other option would be a oshiro 500 mm 6.3 , it weigh next to nothing , but T MOUNT , manual only .

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May 7, 2018 10:30:37   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
suntouched wrote:
Try a pistol grip instead of a monopod with whatever long lens you end up with. For some reason I absolutely can't keep a monopod from swaying.


My latest monopod ....

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May 7, 2018 10:43:31   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Raptor wrote:
Good morning. I have enjoyed reading your postings for some time. Thanks for all the teaching. I have a real problem. I shoot with a Sony A68 and usually use a Tamron 18-270
lens. I belong to a photography club and enjoy mostly nature photography and wildlife.
Last week I bought a Tamron 150-600 lens in anticipation of my trip to the Black Water Wildlife Refuge in Md. Practicing with the lens I have discovered I physically cannot handle or carry my camera and the lens. 70.2 oz. I have scoliosis and this is too much weight. I cannot hold lens up. Mounting on tripod does not address the problem. I want to find out if I have any options for wildlife photography other than this lens. By the way, this is the lens of choice for our amazing bird shooting members. It is not for me.
I fleetingly thought of selling my Sony gear and and starting over with another brand but the investment required may be out of my reach.
Thanks for any advice.
Good morning. I have enjoyed reading your posting... (show quote)

Good luck finding a lens that will make your system light enough. If you return the Tamron lens immediately you can get your money back.

The lightest weight systems for birds are:

The Nikon 1 V3 with the 70-300mm lens (Effective field of view 170-810mm, cost $2,200, weight 1.9 lb)--see Thomas Stirr's web site to see how capable this system is;

the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mk 2 with the Panasonic 100-400mm (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,800, weight 3.4 lb);

the Panasonic G9 with the Panasonic 100-400mm (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,500, weight 3.6 lb);

the Sony A6500 with the 100-400mm + 1.4TC (EFOV 210-840mm, cost $4,250, weight 4.4 lb);

and the Fuji X-T2 with the 100-400mm + 1.4TC (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,950, weight 5.3 lb).

I have found that 800mm is significantly better, for me, than 600mm for birds, including birds in flight.

I sold my D500 and the Tamron 150-600mm G2 and bought the Fuji system. The Fuji 100-400mm with the 1.4TC is very sharp. I wouldn't use a 2.0TC on any lens because the loss of image quality would not be acceptable to me.

I will not claim that any of these systems is as good as a Canon or Nikon system, but I don't think you wouldn't be able to tell the difference on photos printed at 13"x20" or smaller or posted on the internet.

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May 7, 2018 10:51:20   #
Tom Vargas
 
I have the Sigma 150-600mm lens I took to Africa. I took along with me the following items that helped me manage this lens. First I took a beanbag along so I could support the lens. Next I took a long a camera clamp to use on the Land Rover. An lastly I took along a monopod. Using these tools mage handling the lens not a problem. I am going back to Africa next year and will certainly bring this lens again with all my tools. Good luck.

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May 7, 2018 10:51:49   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
jackpinoh wrote:
Good luck finding a lens that will make your system light enough. If you return the Tamron lens immediately you can get your money back.

The lightest weight systems for birds are:

The Nikon 1 V3 with the 70-300mm lens (Effective field of view 170-810mm, cost $2,200, weight 1.9 lb)--see Thomas Stirr's web site to see how capable this system is;

the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mk 2 with the Panasonic 100-400mm (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,800, weight 3.4 lb);

the Panasonic G9 with the Panasonic 100-400mm (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,500, weight 3.6 lb);

the Sony A6500 with the 100-400mm + 1.4TC (EFOV 210-840mm, cost $4,250, weight 4.4 lb);

and the Fuji X-T2 with the 100-400mm + 1.4TC (EFOV 200-800mm, cost $3,950, weight 5.3 lb).

I have found that 800mm is significantly better, for me, than 600mm for birds, including birds in flight.

I sold my D500 and the Tamron 150-600mm G2 and bought the Fuji system. The Fuji 100-400mm with the 1.4TC is very sharp. I wouldn't use a 2.0TC on any lens because the loss of image quality would not be acceptable to me.

I will not claim that any of these systems is as good as a Canon or Nikon system, but I don't think you wouldn't be able to tell the difference on photos printed at 13"x20" or smaller or posted on the internet.
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You missed the Sony RX10 IV ......

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May 7, 2018 11:05:36   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
imagemeister wrote:
My latest monopod ....

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You are so clever!!

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May 7, 2018 11:11:23   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Raptor wrote:
Good morning. I have enjoyed reading your postings for some time. Thanks for all the teaching. I have a real problem. I shoot with a Sony A68 and usually use a Tamron 18-270


If you're happy with the 18-270 in general, with the 1.5x crop factor of the a68 it effectively has a maximum field of view of 405mm. As Imagemeister suggested, Sony's Clear Image Zoom (CIZ) will allow you to zoom in-camera
from 405mm to 810mm with very little loss of image quality. Unless you were planning on using CIZ with the 150-600mm, using it with your 18-270 will get you more reach than the 600. Have you been using CIZ or
are you unaware of it and its benefits in extending the reach of a lens? You might have to use a tripod or monopod to hold 810mm steady but that would give you a solution without adding any more weight or spending any more money.

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May 7, 2018 11:21:51   #
LillieAnnW
 
This is a different approach to a possible solution to your problem (and for me, too.). Someone mentioned on UHH a few weeks ago that he purchased a foldup baby stroller to carry his gear in. Think he said he found it at a thrift shop. I'm currently on the lookout for one, as I have chronic back problems, too. I think the larger wheels would make it handle more easily on sand/soil. Just a thought! Good luck!

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May 7, 2018 11:50:01   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
"Alternately, you might want to look at a Sony RX10 IV - which only weighs 2.5 lbs and offers up a field of view equal to a 24-600mm lens (on a full frame camera)."

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As far as I know the Sony RX10 IV is not a full frame camera.

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May 7, 2018 12:01:38   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
SkyKing wrote:
...Sony 70–400 mm F4–5.6 G SSM II...and use a monopod...


I rented the 70-400G2 last year for a weeklong aviation convention and got a winning shot for an e-newsletter - more pics on FB. It focused a lot faster on my a77 than my Tamron 70-300, and I mostly hand-held it. It's on my ever expanding bucket list!!

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May 7, 2018 12:11:16   #
maryo Loc: Santa fe
 
I would really love to have the new sony rx10 IV for travelling and carrying it around - also for landscapes and birding. Go for it - great reviews.

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