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May 6, 2018 12:40:02   #
Selene03
 
Hi Sally, glad you got your lens issue solved. The 100-400 II lens is a terrific lens! I have used mine on an Sl2 and find that it works well. You are essentially handling the lens with camera attached to it, but I don't find it that much different that the having the 70-300 on my Sl1. I mostly use the 100-400 II on a 5d mk 1V, but I really don't find the handling all that different except that the latter is slightly heavier. This is just a suggestion, but maybe go for upgrading the Sl1 to the Sl2. If you watch Canon refurbished ads, you can often get the Sl2 for under $400.00. It has enough more megapixels that it improves the detail on birds even with the 70-300 lens, and it is about the same size. It is good enough that I sometimes put my 100-400 on it instead of my full frame camera because the combination is so light that it is easier for me to track birds though the focusing system is much better on the 5d mk iv. I agree with some of the comments here that the 100-400 with the 6D II could be a great combination. Good luck and enjoy shooting again. I am glad you solved your lens issue.

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May 6, 2018 12:45:51   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Keep in mind that any of the full frame cameras (5D series, 6D) will not give the same magnification as an APS-C camera. The "crop frame" Canon cameras increase the magnification of any lens by 1.6 times. Going to the 100-400 on a full frame is like going DOWN to a 62.5 - 250mm lens on an APS-C, defeating the purpose of going to a higher magnification lens on the SL1.

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May 6, 2018 13:09:28   #
Sally D
 
PHRubin wrote:
Keep in mind that any of the full frame cameras (5D series, 6D) will not give the same magnification as an APS-C camera. The "crop frame" Canon cameras increase the magnification of any lens by 1.6 times. Going to the 100-400 on a full frame is like going DOWN to a 62.5 - 250mm lens on an APS-C, defeating the purpose of going to a higher magnification lens on the SL1.


Thanks for the simple and articulate explanation. I really don't see any reason why I should go to a full frame. . . I may change my mind in the future but for now, I think I'll avoid it.

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May 6, 2018 13:28:12   #
Sally D
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The EF 100-400mm II was definitely NOT "made to pair with the 5D Mark IV". Sure, the two will work quite well together. But the lens will also work fine on any other Canon DSLR, including your SL1... It, or any other relatively large lens, will just seem a bit unbalanced due to the small size and light weight of your camera. In fact, a lot of "large lens" users like to use a battery grip no their cameras with a second battery, to add some mass to the body and better balance a hefty lens. The SL1 is simply the smallest, lightest DSLR anyone has made... and that's not possible with the SL1, which doesn't have any means of adding a battery grip.

Not that the 100-400s are all that heavy. The original push/pull zoom model weighs just over 3 lb., while the "II" gained some weight to about 3.5 lb. To put it in perspective, it's about the largest lens I'd want to shoot with hand held for a few hours. Any longer than that, I put it on a tripod. The new Sigma 100-400mm is a little bit smaller and under 3 lb. But it's also 2/3 stop slower than the Canon lenses throughout most of it's zoom range, and 1/3 stop slower the rest. The Siggy also doesn't include a tripod mounting ring or have any means of adding one (both the Canon lenses have tripod rings, which are included in the weights). There also is the new Tamron 100-400mm, slightly larger and heavier than the Siggy, but less than the Canon. The Tamron can optionally be fitted with a tripod ring (sold separately), but once again it's not included in the weight statistics (probably adds 4 or 5 oz.)

In fact, for sports and wildlife shooting, I'd recommend using the 100-400mm on one of the APS-C cameras instead of the full frame 5DIV. Either the 20MP 7D Mark II (which is essentially the same size and weight as the full frame camera) or the 24MP 80D work great for those purposes, with that lens and others. The APS-C cameras are like having a "free 1.6X teleconverter" on the lens... "free" meaning that there's no loss of light like there is with an actual teleconverter. When using a telephoto and to photograph smaller, more distant subjects, either of those APS-C models.... or any of the other 24MP APS-C models... or even your 18MP SL1 and other 18MP models will actually "put more pixels on target" than the full frame camera.

Another way of looking at this... if you were to use the same 400mm lens on both cameras to shoot the same subject from the same distance... then cropped the 30MP 5DIV's image down to APS-C dimensions, you'll be left with approx. 12MP image! Heck, your SL1 has 50% more resolution than that... while a 24MP SL2, T7i, 77D or 80D has a full 100% more. In order to take full advantage of all the 5DIV's "full frame goodness" and out-perform what the 100-400mm can do on an APS-C model, you'll need to fit a 500mm or 600mm lens to the full frame 5DIV.
The EF 100-400mm II was definitely NOT "made ... (show quote)


Thank you much for your valuable, comprensive response. This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for. I will definitely be looking at the APS-C models. Another poster mentioned that I could use the lens on my current SL1 although it'll be a bit of a mismatch. So I think I may go ahead and invest in the lens now and hold off a bit on the camera.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and time with me. This is exactly why I like this website so much!

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May 6, 2018 13:29:28   #
Sally D
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I know a few people who shoot the 100-400 II with the 5D3 and 7D2 and get great results. Get the best that you can afford and justify and have fun enjoying them...

Best,
Todd Ferguson


Thanks!

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May 6, 2018 13:31:54   #
Sally D
 
Ny5y wrote:
Put the 100 - 400 on the SL1 and attach the lens to the tripod and shoot on!


I think that's exactly what I'll do for now. It'll make the investment easier to swallow and I'll watch for a good deal on a better camera. Thanks!

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May 6, 2018 13:33:33   #
Sally D
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
The most popular wildlife camera is the 7D Mark II. But if you want to keep the price down, I'd suggest the 80D. But remember, the 100-400 lens you want is the new Mark II. It's Very Very Very sharp compared to the original push pull 100-400 L series lens Canon made.


Thanks for the reminder on holding out for the Mark I. . .!

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May 6, 2018 15:32:54   #
Photocraig
 
I LOVE my 77D. The give-ups over the 80D are: 11 oz. lighter, a smaller battery (Rebel Style) and a Penta Mirror Rebel style). I can't see the difference thru the viewfinder (74 year old surgically enhanced and cataract lens replaced eyes), With 2 batteries, It outlast ME. Otherwise I think it is the same camera.
In reality if you're thinking weight is a priority, as I do, the thought of hand holding the 100-400 because of the weight AND the equivalent 640mm reach is a skills and body stability extreme for almost all of us.

BTW: The 70-300 II nano lens is excellent. See Ken Rockwell's review. While he extols the 100-400, he is quite complimentary on the 70-300. As am I. The 77D and 70-300 II IS is quite hand hold-able--even for me.

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May 6, 2018 15:34:25   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Photocraig wrote:
I LOVE my 77D. The give-ups over the 80D are: 11 oz. lighter, a smaller battery (Rebel Style) and a Penta Mirror Rebel style). I can't see the difference thru the viewfinder (74 year old surgically enhanced and cataract lens replaced eyes), With 2 batteries, It outlast ME. Otherwise I think it is the same camera.
In reality if you're thinking weight is a priority, as I do, the thought of hand holding the 100-400 because of the weight AND the equivalent 640mm reach is a skills and body stability extreme for almost all of us.

BTW: The 70-300 II nano lens is excellent. See Ken Rockwell's review. While he extols the 100-400, he is quite complimentary on the 70-300. As am I. The 77D and 70-300 II IS is quite hand hold-able--even for me.
I LOVE my 77D. The give-ups over the 80D are: 11 o... (show quote)


.......no micro focus adjust on the 77D .....and 6FPS vs 7

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May 6, 2018 18:06:29   #
Stevewayne23 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
good advice here, but one thing I do when I seem to have sudden focusing problems is to clean the sensor. Easy to do yourself (lots of info online) and it has worked wonders for me.

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May 6, 2018 18:11:01   #
donb17
 
Love my 77D

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May 6, 2018 19:34:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Sally D wrote:
A couple of weeks ago, I posted a question about my Canon camera with the 70-300 lens and the lack of focus. I received lots of great suggestions and reassurance that the combination should provide sharp pictures. I have to admit that I accidently omitted a very important bit of information when I posted my initial question. Last summer when we were in Seattle, I was walking, carrying the camera around my neck when I fell flat on my face. I ended up with badly bruised ribs. And although I didn't realize it, the lens received a bent mounting ring . . . the source of all my problems. So much time lapsed between when I fell and when I used this lens again, I just forgot about it. Anyway, the local camera shop replaced it and it's working fine. I'm posting a couple of pictures taken since the repair. Unfortunately, I've now decided that what I need for the type of photography I want to do is probably a 100-400mm L IS USM lens. And even more unfortunately, from what I've read, my Rebel SL1 is probably too light to handle this lens comfortably. Any suggestions? Thanks again.
A couple of weeks ago, I posted a question about m... (show quote)


Your SL1 will handle it just fine.

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May 7, 2018 01:08:04   #
the f/stops here Loc: New Mexico
 
Sally, your question can be answered easily with: is the SL1 comfortable for you to use and are the functions you want to use, easily accessible? If the answer is yes then use that body on that lens. An advantage of moving up in a camera body might be more frames per second burst, a feature useful with wildlife photography. Another factor is the f/stop necessary for the auto focus to work. I often use a 1.4X tele-extender which means your f/5.6 lens now only lets in f/8 amount of light. Will your camera body auto-focus with an f/8 lens? Just a few things to consider ... but without using a tele-extender, I'd be a happy camper and the SL1.

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May 7, 2018 01:52:54   #
Diocletian
 
.....and just to jazz everybody up.....go mirrorless, smaller camera, smaller lenses, easier to carry


Bwahahaha

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May 7, 2018 10:38:05   #
Sally D
 
the f/stops here wrote:
Sally, your question can be answered easily with: is the SL1 comfortable for you to use and are the functions you want to use, easily accessible? If the answer is yes then use that body on that lens. An advantage of moving up in a camera body might be more frames per second burst, a feature useful with wildlife photography. Another factor is the f/stop necessary for the auto focus to work. I often use a 1.4X tele-extender which means your f/5.6 lens now only lets in f/8 amount of light. Will your camera body auto-focus with an f/8 lens? Just a few things to consider ... but without using a tele-extender, I'd be a happy camper and the SL1.
Sally, your question can be answered easily with: ... (show quote)


I like the size of my Rebel but the small size leaves something to be desired when I review pictures on the LCD screen . . .not sure the justifies replacing it. If I do, there seems to be tons of support for the 77D and that certainly wouldn't break the bank.

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