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Apr 25, 2018 11:52:08   #
Kalina54 Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
 
Hello, I have captured a number of client specific images that are being sold with the copyright and license. The images will be used repeatedly. Any clue as to how much I should charge for these images? I have no idea what is a fair market price. Thanks for the insights, K

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Apr 25, 2018 11:59:03   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
You can go to Getty images to see how they price their photos.

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Apr 25, 2018 11:59:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Kalina54 wrote:
Hello, I have captured a number of client specific images that are being sold with the copyright and license. The images will be used repeatedly. Any clue as to how much I should charge for these images? I have no idea what is a fair market price. Thanks for the insights, K


Never sell copyright. Only sell the license. You don't provide enough information about how the images will be used to be able to give you what you are asking.

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Apr 25, 2018 12:01:24   #
Kalina54 Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
 
Okay, they will be used to wrap hot tubs.

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Apr 25, 2018 12:17:21   #
rdubreuil Loc: Dummer, NH USA
 
Kalina54 wrote:
Hello, I have captured a number of client specific images that are being sold with the copyright and license. The images will be used repeatedly. Any clue as to how much I should charge for these images? I have no idea what is a fair market price. Thanks for the insights, K


license their use but, retain your copyright.

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Apr 25, 2018 13:31:32   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gene51 wrote:
Never sell copyright. Only sell the license. You don't provide enough information about how the images will be used to be able to give you what you are asking.


If you sell the copyright, you probably loose all rights to using the images anymore, for anything.

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Apr 25, 2018 14:24:11   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Kalina54 wrote:
Hello, I have captured a number of client specific images that are being sold with the copyright and license. The images will be used repeatedly. Any clue as to how much I should charge for these images? I have no idea what is a fair market price. Thanks for the insights, K


(Download)

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Apr 25, 2018 15:33:51   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Kalina54 wrote:
Hello, I have captured a number of client specific images that are being sold with the copyright and license. The images will be used repeatedly. Any clue as to how much I should charge for these images? I have no idea what is a fair market price. Thanks for the insights, K
I would retain the copyright and charge a flat fee or a flat fee plus x dollars per unit.

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Apr 25, 2018 17:49:58   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
If you are employed/contracted to produce these images you 'own' diddly squat.....the company you work for owns them - they simply pay you for your work....as far as has been said before..

check your contract - or better still get a lawyer to check it!!

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Apr 25, 2018 19:41:43   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
G Brown wrote:
If you are employed/contracted to produce these images you 'own' diddly squat.....the company you work for owns them - they simply pay you for your work....as far as has been said before..

check your contract - or better still get a lawyer to check it!!



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Apr 25, 2018 19:48:55   #
Photocraig
 
Pricing is purely an issue of what the value of the photo will add to the user. while, it would be fun to answer "How much can you say?" It depends on the number of times the image will be used. And in addition to wrapping Hot Tubs, how else???????????????????

I agree that licensing is the way to go. The less usage restrictions the higher the price. And the Austin Powers Character is a good starting point for Copyright. So, start out with a figure for the hot tub wrap and build up from their for other uses.

Where to start, I'm not sure. But messing around with licensing and negotiating at all would make me think that $500-1,000 would be a polite good start. Then see how they react, ask for guidance on what they're paying for other photography.

There are many variables including how you view the value of the image, do you do this for a living,? What kind of low/high precedent will this set. Under what circumstances did this opportunity come about? Were you contracted or did they discover the image. Except for very specific locations and people, almost anything can be closely matched with a Stock Photo. That's your competition. As noted above, check that first.

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Apr 26, 2018 01:38:41   #
Kalina54 Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
 
Thank you

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Apr 26, 2018 05:33:48   #
OneShotOne18
 
Photocraig wrote:
Pricing is purely an issue of what the value of the photo will add to the user. while, it would be fun to answer "How much can you say?" It depends on the number of times the image will be used. And in addition to wrapping Hot Tubs, how else???????????????????

I agree that licensing is the way to go. The less usage restrictions the higher the price. And the Austin Powers Character is a good starting point for Copyright. So, start out with a figure for the hot tub wrap and build up from their for other uses.

Where to start, I'm not sure. But messing around with licensing and negotiating at all would make me think that $500-1,000 would be a polite good start. Then see how they react, ask for guidance on what they're paying for other photography.

There are many variables including how you view the value of the image, do you do this for a living,? What kind of low/high precedent will this set. Under what circumstances did this opportunity come about? Were you contracted or did they discover the image. Except for very specific locations and people, almost anything can be closely matched with a Stock Photo. That's your competition. As noted above, check that first.
Pricing is purely an issue of what the value of th... (show quote)

Since u brought up stock photos....do stock agencies take over a copywrite photo when it is submitted to them?

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Apr 26, 2018 06:27:32   #
Noctilucent
 
The Uniform Copyright Act of 1978 established that the copyright belongs to the creator, absent a contract in which the photographer signs away all rights.
"Work for hire" must be contracted in advance, and courts have ruled that it can't be declared after the fact.
In fact those courts required that "work for hire" must be performed by full-time vested (full benefits) salaried employees of a company that provides all equipment and supplies.
In other words, if you work in the photo department of a large company, your work belongs to the company, otherwise it is yours to license to users.
The act of congress was intended to end the shoddy practice of companies exploiting photographers by appropriating their work without paying them values based on the widespread use of the images.
Photographers' business practices changed, resulting in things like the ASMP usage guide, which specified typical values for photographs used in a wide variety of media.
I am not a lawyer, but as a photographer have looked into the copious literature on photographers' rights. Things change, so you might do the same. Google is your friend.

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Apr 26, 2018 06:59:46   #
lehighjack Loc: somewhere in FL
 
I suggest you join PPA; they have daily discussions, plus sample contracts, etc. Additionally, you get INSURANCE on your equipment (some limitations and deductibles) as well as guidance as to avoiding being scammed, collecting fees, how much to charge, what equipment might be best for a specific shoot, etc. Google: Professional Photographers of America and be pleasantly overwhelmed. BTW, I am far from a professional, but the PPA advice has saved me much more than the tax deductible membership fee.

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