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Jun 27, 2015 11:39:36   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
RichardQ wrote:
Steve, the German people in 1933 were still reeling from the economic catastrophe dumped on them by the disastrous Versailles Treaty of 1919. The social upheavals and riots were used by the Nazi party to persuade the middle class that they could install a government powerful enough to restore order. Some very powerful American industrialists agreed, and joined forces with German industrialists to quietly back Hitler. Some of them, like Henry Ford, also admired the virulent anti-semitism promoted by Hitler. What rallied the German people was Hitler's insistence that they would not let themselves be "pushed around" by the Allies. He broke the restrictions imposed by the Treaty, and told the Germans the Allies would do nothing about it. And they didn't, proving to the Germans that he truly was "The Leader."
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Yes, you are absolutely right. Today we are the Monday morning quarterback. Those days, a lot of allies thought that Hitler is just a crazy idiot. However, Hitler knew how to play on German self esteem and Germans loved his long speeches, where he started very softly and ended up screaming his lungs out. That was music to German ears.

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Jun 27, 2015 11:41:51   #
William J Renard
 
I am not talking about governments, I am talking about human
beings, who suffered because of stupidity, and greed after the war.
If you feel that killing people, dispacing them, and torturing them is OK for the winners, then my friend you are sick and should be
institutionalized, with Stalin, Beria Coucescu, Titio and Mayo tse-
tung, I am sure you would kill each other.

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Jun 27, 2015 13:07:13   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
RichardQ wrote:
Steve, you are absolutely right to condemn the Lebensraum expansions of the Third Reich, which uprooted populations in 1938 and 1939, forcing peasants from their lands so Germans could take over. The reverse was to be expected when the tide turned. The Sudeten Germans were forced out and driven into Germany, where they were not welcomed. The survivors became part of the millions of displaced persons (DPs) which the U.S. Army unexpectedly found on its hands. The Russians insisted that all DPs from Russia and Eastern Europe be returned to them. Many resisted and even committed suicide -- and the Russians killed some as soon as they were handed over, in sight of the sickened Americans.
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I don't blame those Russians a bit. Germans made such a mess with their expansion and with their behavior to set themselves next to God, that there was a hateful sentient throughout the whole Europe. The postwar communist establishment is directly related to the war. That was another 40 years of dictatorship of communism which was born in Germany. I just hate them to this day. If you would want to give me the most expensive German car, I would not take it. I call it Nazi car. I would not set my foot on German soil. I do not associate with any German. I will die with my hate for Germans.

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Jun 27, 2015 13:34:26   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
Steve_m wrote:
Richard, I lived in Eastern Europe during the WW2. And what William J Renard posted makes my blood boil.


Steve and William, I can appreciate the depths of your feelings regarding the terrible events you both experienced in and after the war. But they are not appropriate for this thread, which deals with the American Army families in Occupied Germany. I discussed some of the problems of displaced persons in an earlier post on Jan. 28 (DP Liberators become DP Jailers in Occupied Germany), and I expect tp discuss the DP problem again in a later post. So I must ask you both please to save your arguments for that posting. Thank you.

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Jun 28, 2015 06:03:43   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
Steve_m wrote:
I don't blame those Russians a bit. Germans made such a mess with their expansion and with their behavior to set themselves next to God, that there was a hateful sentient throughout the whole Europe. The postwar communist establishment is directly related to the war. That was another 40 years of dictatorship of communism which was born in Germany. I just hate them to this day. If you would want to give me the most expensive German car, I would not take it. I call it Nazi car. I would not set my foot on German soil. I do not associate with any German. I will die with my hate for Germans.
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I don't hate them anymore but I will never trust a German. One would have to be stupid to believe that they changed. they did not like to lose the war and they are still convinced that they are the master race.
There are very few germans born right after the war that were not fathered by Russians. I also don't blame those Russians a bit.

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Jun 28, 2015 06:09:31   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
RichardQ wrote:
Steve and William, I can appreciate the depths of your feelings regarding the terrible events you both experienced in and after the war. But they are not appropriate for this thread, which deals with the American Army families in Occupied Germany. I discussed some of the problems of displaced persons in an earlier post on Jan. 28 (DP Liberators become DP Jailers in Occupied Germany), and I expect tp discuss the DP problem again in a later post. So I must ask you both please to save your arguments for that posting. Thank you.
Steve and William, I can appreciate the depths of ... (show quote)


I know you are the OP but you should have the decency to shut up when Steve and William provide their input. Your posts about Germany are always slanted toward the poor suffering germans. To hell with the arrogance that created so much misery. Please hold your critique even though you are the germen cuddler.

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Jun 28, 2015 13:44:01   #
JustMePB Loc: Currently Indian Trail, NC.
 
I'm the new guy here and can't believe the hate and remarks I am seeing on this forum. I wonder how many of you use Japanese cameras......

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Jun 28, 2015 15:14:58   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
Jackel wrote:
Richard Q - Almost a year before families of American soldiers started arriving in Germany, US military personnel were housed in German family homes and apartments that had been "requisitioned" by the US military.

American troops arrived in my German War Bride's hometown of Weinheim, Germany, (near Heidelberg and Mannheim) in late March of 1945. Her town had escaped any bombing or damage during the war. Too, there were no Geman troops or military facilities in her hometown.

After abandoning their tent compound initially set up in a large park area, the American troops moved to German family homes and large apartment complexes in the town, after the German families were summarily kicked out.

Several months later, I arrived in Weinheim, Germany, as a US soldier, to join the HQ 15th Constabulary Regiment Headquarters (formerly a part of Patton's 3rd Army). I had an army bunk in the small upstairs bedroom of a German family home located on the Wienkoopstrasse (strasse = street) in Weinheim. (see pictures) Several other US military personnel also lived in the home.

All home facilities, including bathrooms, were available to us except kitchen facilities, so we all ate in the military messhall, formerly a large living|dining area in another residential home.

A residential mansion formerly inhabited by one of the town's rich businessmen, Carl Freudenberg, (earlier the beloved Jewish owner, Hirsch, had been kicked out and, wisely, moved to Milwaukee, Wisconsin) became our Constabulary Headquarters, and I served there in several clerical capacities until our unit was transferred to nearby Seckenheim where we occupied former German military facilities.
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Jackel, thank you so much for your interesting information re those early days of the occupation, when some 3.5 million American troops invaded Europe from Africa and Britain. They could not be expected to continue living under tents when former enemies lived comfortably in houses next door. In less than a year, 3 million troops had left Europe and returned to the USA. Your duties in the Constabulary, as I understand them, were in contrast to the bulk of the Occupation troops, whose presence was pretty passive. I hope to post a report on the Constabulary soon. Meanwhile, thank you for your service.

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Jun 28, 2015 15:16:50   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
BamaTexan wrote:
As I have said several times.......thank you for these insights to the reality of the times. Keep 'em coming!


Thank you, BamaTexan. I appreciate your interest.

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Jun 28, 2015 15:19:19   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
drbarrymary wrote:
I really enjoy reading your posts! Thanks, Barry


Many thanks, Barry! I hope I can continue to hold your interest.

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Jun 28, 2015 15:23:08   #
RichardQ Loc: Colorado
 
Camlane wrote:
Thanks for your usual excellence.


Thank you for your compliment, Camlane. I'll keep trying to help illustrate this period of American history before it totally fades away.

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Jun 29, 2015 13:20:37   #
William J Renard
 
Thank you for writing about the occupation. I lived in
Rommania during world war two, we where the German minority
that lived between Timmisora and Arad. I was born here and my parents went abroad to sell their holdings in Rommania, and to
extract my grandfather, from there. I have no ill feelings toward anyone, except the communists and the looters that took over the balksns. It seems from reading the posts, that a great deal of
individuals have more corupting, hateful bile in them than necessary. You don't have to like someone, but you must understand that evil is evil, and hatred solves nothing!!!

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Apr 19, 2018 16:31:08   #
Nancy Hauch
 
I was a dependent in Germany from 1948, I believe is the year in Bamburg Germany. We lived in a house confiscated from a German family on Zolner Strss, where a very few other American families lives. We had a free maid, and a man that started our coal burning stoves in cold weather,(he had served on the Russian Front in the German Army) we also had a women that washed our cloths in the basement with a scrub brush. I started Kindergarten very close to the Cathedral where the Bamburger Rider statue is, we had an English speaking German teacher. We had a bus I believe to take us to and from school, and an MP escort. Soon we moved into newly built Dependant housing and my school became a German girls Boarding School. I have been back to this area three times. My last name is Hauck. We left Bamburg at Christmas time in 1951. We came back in 1955, after my father spent some time in Korea, during that War. We were in Nuremberg and then Hanau. I started High School at Frankfort American HS. I am 75 now, and wish I had kept better records. rudolf.hauck@comcast.net

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Apr 20, 2018 08:29:30   #
jjohnpdq Loc: Lincoln AR. USA
 
I was 6yrs old when my dad got orders there and I live there till 1953

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Apr 20, 2018 09:40:01   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
Well done as always; thank you.

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