gwilliams6

For me as a pro I can afford any gear I need. The advantages of full-frame mirrorless I use every single time I shoot. There are features and abilities of mirrorless cameras that NO DSLR can ever physically have.
-Looking at the D850,if you prefer DSLRs, then this is the camera to want and get,better than the best from Canon right now for sure.
-For me the D850 does a very poor job in autofocus in video,all Nikon DSLRs suffer here (a real deal-breaker for me), Canon's DPAF is much better in video AF. Sony's video AF is now tested to be as good in video as Canon's DPAF, so no longer a Canon advantage.
-This silent shooting in the D850 is not really up to the ability of the Sony's.
-The D850 has NO Eye-AF (a deal-breaker for me).
-The EVF is a huge advantage on modern mirrorless cameras.
-Canon just applied for a patent on a hybrid Optical/EVF viewfinder. That should be interesting.
-Mirrorless cameras have IBIS, no present DSLR has this.
-Nikon is rumored to be working on its own IBIS system, which is a good thing.

I could go on, but no need. It is all out there and more in a myriad of tests and real-world reviews. Expect even the pros and reviewers to disagree on some points and share their preferences of camera choice, but the majority including Tony Northrup wont ignore the distinct advantages of full-frame mirrorless cameras in helping folks get better images as they create their art and service their pro clients. Cheers

gwilliams6

For Nikon folks;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLSyNAM6_4&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=7b5qTZz1SfXW7dyX-6

Jared Polin announces Nikon is #1. You say how when Canon still sells more cameras. Well the recent World Press Photo Contest surveyed the cameras of their top winning entries. (caveat: 32 winners DID NOT List their camera they used). Of those who did list their cameras used, Nikon led the way. DSLRs also still led over mirrorless (among those winners that listed their camera used).

My point is you can make whatever conclusion you want from this. Is it because more press shooters still own DSLRs, or their news organizations still own more DSLRs and Nikons to give their shooters to use ? (for all the years I worked as a staff photographer on newspapers, the papers supplied our gear, and we had to use whatever brand they gave us, or pay for our own gear, (which was usually out of the question financially for each individual shooter). I have a close friend who is a chief staff shooter on a local newspaper who would like to switch to mirrorless, but his news organization supplies him with top Canon gear and he can't personally afford to switch himself.

Does the fact that the known mirrorless-user World Press Photo winners rose from 5% last year to 11% this year mean that there is a doubling of the shift to mirrorless? Look at those numbers anyway you like. Interesting, whatever your preference or point of view, you can surely find a video and numbers to support it.

BTW I have won World Press awards three times in the past, and I was using my newspaper-supplied Nikon and Canon DSLRs when I won in news and sports categories. Not with my current Sony gear. I don't enter contests anymore. I just try to please my clients and myself with my images.
Cheers

tdekany Loc: Oregon

You loose credibility with your posts. I didn’t once disagree with anything you said about mirrorless, or Sony, except that I pointed out the focus issue both cameras were having while zooming. Is that review incorrect? Did the reviewer make it up? You need to calm down a bit, I am a mirrorless user, and would never purchase a dslr. But why does this topic make you so aggressive? Who cares what others use? Go out and shoot. Worry less about what other people spend THEIR MONEY ON. it isn’t our business anymore than me telling you what car to buy or what food to eat.

gwilliams6

I dont care what you buy and use, what makes you think I do. lol Your choice is yours, and your money is yours to decide how you spend it. I am seriously worried by how deeply you are taking this whole discussion. Lighten up fellow, don't have a heart attack over this stuff. Many folks who don't know how to set up the Sony menu settings have struggled until they learned. There has been no general consensus that there is ANY focusing problem while zooming. Don't take every reviewers findings as gospel, I don't, and never have. In my personal experience with shooting with A6500, A7RII, A7rIII and now A7III since January 2017, I have never once had any autofocus issues while zooming. I own Sony 10-18mm zoom, 18-105mm zoom,24-105mm zoom, 70-200mm f2.8 zoom and Sigma 150-600mm zoom. None of my close fellow pros who use Sony have mentioned this focus while zooming issue. None of the Sony users at the Super Bowl or Winter Olympics have mentioned this issue. I put more credence in my own personal experience and the personal experiences of my close fellow pros, than in any youtube reviewer.

I f you have ever owned and shot with an A7RIII, A9 or A7III you would know from experience that it makes a HUGE difference how you set the focus speed and focus responsiveness settings, it truly does. I leave mine set to the highest speed and highest responsiveness for stills, but reduce those setting to the standard setting for a slower more cinematic focus pulling in video shooting.
Cheers

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

All current production Pentax cameras do.

added: and Pentax is the one traditional DSLR manufacturer which has openly stated that they have no plans to produce MILC.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

You are one funny guy! For someone who claims to not care how others spend their money, you sure are active in this thread.

As far as how “deeply” I’m taking this discussion, what thread are you reading? Have you noticed how hard you are pushing Sony? Why are you wasting your time trying to convince others to use Sony? Why do you care so much? As I said, you are one funny guy.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Don’t you dare try to correct him with facts, you will be accused of getting a heart attack!! Lol.

gwilliams6

They are great micro 4/3 and APS-C mirrorless systems from Olympus,Fuji,Panasonic, Sony and even Leica. Plenty of choice to go around for every like. Canon and Nikon will step up to challenge Sony in the FFmirrorless market later this year or early next year, they have said so already. We all win with great competition and innovation and choice. This OP's thread was about FF mirrorless vs FF DSLR and right now Sony has the ONLY full-frame mirrorless so what other full frame mirrorless cameras SHOULD be discussed here on the mirrorless side ???

I forgot about the super Pentax K1 MkII being a full-frame DSLR camera having IBIS, quite an achievement. I stand corrected. As I stated above, Nikon is also working on IBIS for its DSLRs and mirrorless future offerings. Canon may be going there also. IMO, IBIS is the way to go for all cameras.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1391312-REG/pentax_16064_k_1_mark_ii_dslr.html?ap=y&c3api=1876%2C193854673152%2C%2C&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_ODWBRCTARIsAE2_EvUvJS6jpaCLsR6jdJ3mT6DvZJumrNP8xoUC-Cq_fkDLbxibvyOaFO8aAhRPEALw_wcB

Cheers

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Pentax users are very interested in 'old glass', so IBIS was a natural decision for them.

gwilliams6

My first film SLR, back in my high school yearbook staff days was a Pentax Spotmatic. With a world of screw-mount lenses available . So the brand holds a special place in my memory. Cheers

gwilliams6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5tzBJZibc
Jared Polin discusses the Sony A9 vs A7RIII vs A7III,which you should buy, and tells what features they have, including what the Sonys can do better than ANY DSLR, as well as what he likes on Canon and Nikon. BTW Jared is NOT sponsored by Sony and is a longtime Nikon and Canon user, but reviews and uses all types of gear.

gwilliams6

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/james-cameron-to-shoot-avatar-sequels-on-sony-venice-camera-system/
James Cameron chooses Sony Venus camera system to shoot Avatar sequels. Cameron will also use current Sony A7 series and RX series cameras to shoot scenes in Avatar sequels.