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Best APS-C DSLR/Mirrorless with 1 wide to long zoom lens for around $1500
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Apr 14, 2018 07:55:00   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
The most important thing is that she gets what she wants, not what you want. Otherwise every photo that doesn't look good will be your fault. All the choices mentioned are good.

My preference would be the D7200, but the reasons (available grip and dual card slots) may mean nothing to her.

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Apr 14, 2018 08:07:47   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
IMHO, I think your wife is making a mistake by not looking at refurbs... they are as good as new, and usually cheaper, and also have a good warranty, so she would have a little more money for a great lens(You can also pick up refurb lenses). As far as the camera goes, I would suggest the Sony a6000, or the a6300

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Apr 14, 2018 08:17:13   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Look at the Tamron 18-400 lens, a great all around APS-C lens, and then find an APS-C camera body that is compatible; Nikon, Canon, then go for it. Probably all the reach she'll need....besides if she doesn't like it, then you'll love it.

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Apr 14, 2018 08:28:09   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I would avoid all of the advice above except for those suggesting you let your wife pick her tool!

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Apr 14, 2018 08:51:29   #
aaciolkowski Loc: Sugar Grove Illinois
 
Look at the Nikon P900

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Apr 14, 2018 08:54:04   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
tomad wrote:
Ok guys, I need your help. The missus, who has never used any camera besides a point and shoot and her Iphone has decided that she wants a "good" camera. I discussed the options with her and she thinks she wants an APS-C DSLR. I would also like her to look at mirrorless options. She has a budget around $1500 and there are a lot of options out there for that or under so I would like help narrowing down those options before I take her to a store to look at and hold a few to see how they feel to her.

Costco has a Nikon D7500 with two kit lenses for around that price but when I explained that to her she indicated that her preference while learning would be a single everything zoom lens, i.e. 18 or 24mm to 250 or 300mm. She's leaning toward Nikon just "because" so I found that she could get a D7100 or D7200 body and still leave $500 to $700 for a decent lens.

So, recommendations for a good body (Nikon, Canon, etc.) and a pretty good single zoom lens that would fit in the general price range?

I have strictly bridge cameras and she wants something with better image quality and low light capability than 1" sensor (or smaller) cameras. So I'm looking for the best of that for the price. Also I want to get the best quality for the money in case she loses interest... (-:

BTW, before you suggest it, she will not go for used or refurbed. She is a new only gal. Doesn't make sense to me as I'm nowhere near new and she's kept me around for over 20 years, but that's the way she is.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Ok guys, I need your help. The missus, who has ne... (show quote)


Canon has a great M50 mirrorless. APSC format and dedicated M lenses for very light and small or the full range of the largest lens system EF that will work perfectly with no loss of speed or features.
It has the new Digic 8 processor, 4K, and an improved version of the DPAF focus system that no one else has and is very highly regarded in all the reviews.
And gives you the lower light quality you are looking for in a larger sensor and is lighter and smaller than the 7XXX series you are looking at. So best of both worlds with the most comprehensive system available backing it up.

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Apr 14, 2018 09:01:40   #
billnourse Loc: Bloomfield, NM
 
Nikon D7200 with 18-140 or Canon 80D with 18-135. These are about as good as it gets with crop frames from these two. The 18-135/140 gives an effective range of 28.8/27.0 to 216/202.5. Since you wife only wants to deal with one lens to start with, these would be good choices.

Although I have a Sony a6000, I am just not sold on them. They are great cameras and take great photo, but if you want to expand, their top tier lenses are more than Canon and Nikon, and it is impossible to find E mount lenses in less expensive brands. If you go with an adapter to use other lenses it slows the frame rate down, focus is sometimes off or slow and other problems could be encountered.

Since I don't use my a6000 for anything but snapshots and on the motorcycle, it is not much of an issue for me, but my son really wants a 70-200 f2.8 for his a6000. Sigma or Tamron does not make them and Sony's is 2600. The same lens from Tamron or Sigma would be around 1,600 and in Canon or Nikon around 2,000.

If lenses are not available for a competitive price, then it doesn't matter how good the camera is.

Just my take on the issue.

Bill

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Apr 14, 2018 09:24:36   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
Get a good body and kit lens, hold back 1/3 -1/2 of budget for a better lens that she can get six months from now after she has mastered the camera can can decide what is next for her.

Have fun

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Apr 14, 2018 09:33:02   #
Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach
 
billnourse wrote:


Although I have a Sony a6000, I am just not sold on them. They are great cameras and take great photo, but if you want to expand, their top tier lenses are more than Canon and Nikon, and it is impossible to find E mount lenses in less expensive brands. If you go with an adapter to use other lenses it slows the frame rate down, focus is sometimes off or slow and other problems could be encountered.

Since I don't use my a6000 for anything but snapshots and on the motorcycle, it is not much of an issue for me, but my son really wants a 70-200 f2.8 for his a6000. Sigma or Tamron does not make them and Sony's is 2600. The same lens from Tamron or Sigma would be around 1,600 and in Canon or Nikon around 2,000.

If lenses are not available for a competitive price, then it doesn't matter how good the camera is.

Just my take on the issue.

Bill
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I agree with you 100% on Sony. I returned my Sony a6000 with two kit lenses because it couldnt match the IQ of my Olympus m4/3 with a cheap refurb $100 40-150 lens. I am sure it was the lenses and not the camera. But I wasn’t willing to spend the big bucks on lenses to make the Sony work for me.

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Apr 14, 2018 09:35:29   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I have an Olympus OMD E-mark 5 II and the 14-150 II lens, a micro 4/3s system. Both are weather resistant (took it to Niagara Falls and used both with no "raincoat" on Maid of the Mist and Cave of the Winds) and both offer excellent image quality, IMO. These are lightweight, yet solid feeling. They will, with an insert, fit into a good sized purse, which is what I do. I had a Nikon D7000 and a bunch of lenses that I traded in for this configuration . This combo would also fit with your budget. I might add that I came to choose the Olympus as a result of a Nat Geo photographer who spoke at a workshop I attended. I figured if it was good enough for him, it was for me! Have fun choosing!

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Apr 14, 2018 09:35:54   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
I did a couple of hours of online research last night and a couple more this morning and then talked to her again. For some reason (I think because some friends have them and like them) she is stuck on a DSLR vs Mirrorless or any other type of camera. She wants to be able to both shoot wildlife/landscapes in daylight but she also wants to be able to take people and city shots in low light and at night. All of those can not be done with one lens to my knowledge so I put together something that I think may work.

Also being formerly an SLR owner (4 manual 70s and 80s Minolta SLRs) I have always been of the opinion that the glass is more important than the camera body after a point so to satisfy her needs and price range I came up with a cheaper body and two lens combination. She would only have to change when she switched between the two types of photography she is interested in.

Please give me your opinions on this kit which ranges from $1387 to $1437 depending on the lens. Would really like to hear from someone who owns some part of this combo. Also opinions on other substitute lenses or bodies in the same range.

Nikon D5500 body
Nikon 18-200mm, Tamron 16-300, or Tamron 18-400mm zoom for wildlife
Nikon 35mm f1.8 lens for her low light candid and city shots

All of this will be within her price range:

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-D5500-DX-format-Digital-Black/dp/B00RUBJ7EW
and
https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-Focus-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0
and
https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-18-200mm-3-5-5-6G-Telephoto-DX-Format/dp/B002JCSV8A/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
or
https://www.amazon.com/Tamron-18-400mm-3-5-6-3-Digital-Warranty/dp/B072YT9KXW/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
or
https://www.amazon.com/Tamron-16-300mm-3-5-6-3-Nikon-Cameras/dp/B00JQ7TD2E/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1523709244&sr=8-4&keywords=tamron+16+300

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Apr 14, 2018 09:42:51   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
mizzee wrote:
I have an Olympus OMD E-mark 5 II and the 14-150 II lens, a micro 4/3s system. Both are weather resistant (took it to Niagara Falls and used both with no "raincoat" on Maid of the Mist and Cave of the Winds) and both offer excellent image quality, IMO. These are lightweight, yet solid feeling. They will, with an insert, fit into a good sized purse, which is what I do. I had a Nikon D7000 and a bunch of lenses that I traded in for this configuration . This combo would also fit with your budget. I might add that I came to choose the Olympus as a result of a Nat Geo photographer who spoke at a workshop I attended. I figured if it was good enough for him, it was for me! Have fun choosing!
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Thanks mizzee, I will certainly have her look at and hold some mirrorless camera/lens combos before she makes her final decision to see if she really wants the smaller lighter package compared to a DSLR. I don't think she's ever seen a mirrorless APS-C camera.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:00:34   #
TSHDGTL
 
You do know Sony makes a DSLR. The a-mount is based on the old Minolta cameras. They have evf like mirrorless and can use Minolta af lenses which are a deal. The A68 is an above average entry camera with great features at the price point.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:29:45   #
Chadp Loc: Virginia Beach
 
I own the D5500 as well as the Olympus OMD EM -10 Mkii

The D5500 with the 35 1.8 is what is usually beside me in the family room to take candid shots of my kids. It’s a great lens for $200. But the two kit lenses that usually come with the D5500 package are good also for outdoors in more light.

But don’t rule out the m4/3 cameras. The Olympus with a pancake lens is the camera that goes with me on most excursions. And I carry the 40-150 zoom in a pocket. I only bought the D5500 because I got a crazy good deal on it with the kit lenses. The D5500 does outperform the Olympus indoors and in low light. But the Olympus is so much more fun to use. I almost always shoot in manual with the Olympus because of how quickly I can dial in the settings. The Nikon D5500 is so much more cumbersome because there is only one dial. I usually end up in shutter or aperature priority with the Nikon.

I would definitely take her to a camera shop so she can see and feel the difference in cameras and lenses.

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Apr 14, 2018 10:34:39   #
fyarandi
 
I bought and tested Sony a6500 mirrorless camera and I would NOT recommend it.
Sony suppose to be the leader in mirrorless DSLR technology BUT they still have work to do. The camera costs about $1500 and the major problem with it is that does not focus well at nights during indoor shooting.
The sensors are too slow to focus and captured images are often blurry.
I would stick with traditional mirror DSLR.
Canon 80D is a very good all around option for both still camera and videography
Best of luck

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