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Apr 5, 2018 08:19:54   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I only wish KEH in Symrna had a storefront as I live about 30 miles away from there. As a former camera store employee, I am not an adherent of "protective" filters unless it's to protect against salt spray, sand or little kids greasy fingers. A clear filter is better than a UV or "skylight" if you feel the need to use one. Multicoated of course and always remove filters when a light source is in the frame to keep ghosting down.....

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Apr 5, 2018 08:38:36   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Gene51 wrote:
A decent UV or clear filter will minimize actual lens cleaning, protect it from abrasive airborne particles hitting or attaching themselves to the front element, and in some cases take the brunt of an impact - sometimes saving you $100s in lens repair.

And you don't need to spend a fortune to get a good filter. A midrange Hoya is optically better than the B&Ws, Heliopans, Schneider and other esoteric (and expensive) filters.

https://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

My experience over the past 51 yrs with this has more than proven that using a filter can help.
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These tests are not up to date. They don't cover the relatively recent Sigma ceramic filter.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:41:49   #
JWCoop
 
Another vote for Camera Service Company in Smyrna.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:27:09   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
I use a UV filter on my most frequently used lenses because I have clumsy fingers and have to clean off fingerprints from the filters from time to time. i have a hood for every lens just in case - I figure if the camera falls the hood will be a far better protection than something that sits so close to my glass.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:28:34   #
jaycoffsky
 
I have a lot of GAS. Rewarding myself for working since age 16, now age 80. I bought this lens at least 10-15 years ago. Probably for Nikon D -200, then D 300, then D800. now D850. Then I got into mirrorless stuff and bridge cameras like the Sony RX 10. Now back to DSLR which seems best for my grandkids sports. When purchased the lens was purchased no internet or photo forum for help and questions. I think the quality NY photo store said the UV filter was to protect the lens.
I had not used the lens in several years and actually forgot there was a filter on the lens. I will now take the filters off my other lens. I am sure it was common then to sell add on stuff like these filters to increase the sells at the various stores.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:33:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
bpulv wrote:
Jay,

Why did you have a UV filter on your lens? Was it to "protect" the front element of your lens? Using a UV filter to protect your lens is a fallacy that has been promoted by filter manufacturers and camera stores for years to sell a high profit product. Many photographers have bought into this disinformation because it has been repeated so many times over the years.

The fact is that UV filters on a digital camera add nothing to the photographs you are taking while cheap filters especially, can increase reflections and reduce contrast. The use of lens caps and a lens hood will protect your lens better than any filter. You should almost always use a lens hood to reduce side light from affecting pictures and protect your lens from the damage that can occur when your lens hits a hard object. It can also minimize damage if your lens is dropped. Although you will hear about a very few case where a UV filter broke and thus protected the front element, you will also here stories about lenses damaged by broken chars of glass from a filter that was struck by a hard object. There are far more stories of lenses being saved by the lens hood or lens caps.

My advice is to ditch UV filters, keep your lens clean all the time, use lens caps, and when possible, always use a lens hood when taking pictures.
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You tell us this as if it was 100% true. In my opinion it is not true under all circumstances. I know that filters do nothing to aid the photo in a digital camera. No problem there. But I also know that many lenses are ruined by zealous over cleaning of the lens. I would much rather clean the filter than the lens glass. Also it is true that SOME lenses have been protected from damage due to falling, dropping, accidentally hitting it into something hard while the camera swings from the strap while walking. Yes I know that lens hoods do minimize the damage to lens glass but again, over cleaning is my reason for using a filter on the front of the lens.

I may be wrong. I am sometimes. But to see the difference in the two photos submitted by the OP I find it hard to believe that it was just the filter that made the difference. Possibly it was one hell of a cheap or dirty filter that if cleaned would have made a positive difference.

Dennis

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Apr 5, 2018 09:35:43   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2.8 lens which lacked snap. Frankly I am old, stupid, dumb, and did not know how to download the image. I will try now. Both pics were just made. the first looks like someone with a mild cataract and made with the 28-70f. the second made a few seconds later was with a 70-200 f.2 latest version. everything else including hand held is the same. Both were at 70mm focal distance. The 70-200 has the snap i was referring too not present on the other lens. Any ideas. I hope the pics get downloaded.
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I take lame test shots of book cases too. That is the deal with that?

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Apr 5, 2018 09:37:09   #
Brent Rowlett Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Make sure the old lens was made for digital cameras. Digital lenses have made vast improvements since 2005 when digital cameras became affordable and used the old film lenses.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:48:05   #
1grumpybear
 
Somebody at Nikon didn't know what they were talkin about. Both my Nikon 200-400 4 GII ED and 300 2.8 GII ED came with filters.

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Apr 5, 2018 09:50:10   #
1grumpybear
 
bpulv wrote:
Bill,

I just phoned Nikon and according to Nikon, none of their lenses come with a clear glass filter; although, they do sell clear glass filters. As I said, they are a large profit item.

Also, I stand by my statement that UV and glass filters should be avoided; assuming you take care of your lenses and clean them promptly when needed. As far as small pits and scratches on the front element, they have to be quite bad to even slightly affect picture quality. Lens caps and hoods provide the best protection.
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Somebody at Nikon didn't know what they were talkin about. Both my Nikon 200-400 4 GII ED and 300 2.8 GII ED came with filters.

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Apr 5, 2018 10:28:48   #
Jim Bianco
 
I use a lens shade,no filters except a CLP. The shade will protect the lens,you need all the light you could entering all that glass in your lens, you don't need any more glass in front of the lens. A little dust in lens will not effect the pic that's normal. My 2 cents Jim Bianco

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Apr 5, 2018 11:05:49   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured. Perfect pic with the UV filter off. We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer. No one to go to for this sort of thing. Wow thanks loads. Not only saved sending lens back but I was considering a replacement. Snap is back and looks just as good as the 70-200 pic I took. thanks loads.


It wasn't me, but ENJOY! You apparently came to the right place.

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Apr 5, 2018 11:14:45   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I take lame test shots of book cases too. That is the deal with that?

I think "Bookcase" photos should have its own category.

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Apr 5, 2018 11:19:48   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
Seems like the problem was related to the filter. The question remains why has the filter gone bad. My first thought was what has the OP used as a cleaning agent? A micro cloth or a piece of paper toweling that often has metal filings for wiping up spills on the counter, makes a difference. A cleaning agent designed for lenses or a solvent that eats the surface of glass and especially plastics.

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Apr 5, 2018 11:22:20   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured. Perfect pic with the UV filter off....


Oh, but folks will tell you over and over the filter is "necessary for protection" and it won't effect your pictures!
(Obviously, filters will effect pics a little or a lot... How much depends upon the quality of the filter and its coatings, as well as the lighting conditions, etc. Besides, how much "protection" can you expect from a thin piece of glass? I'd suggest using lens hoods & caps instead! Better protection... and no harm to pics so long as you remember to remove the lens cap!)

jaycoffsky wrote:
We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer.


How much of a drive is it to Smyrna? KEH.com is located there.... one of the largest used equipment dealers in the nation (world?). Don't know if they have a "brick & mortar" store, but am pretty sure they also do repairs if needed.

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