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Apr 4, 2018 14:47:37   #
BB4A
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured. Perfect pic with the UV filter off. We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer. No one to go to for this sort of thing. Wow thanks loads. Not only saved sending lens back but I was considering a replacement. Snap is back and looks just as good as the 70-200 pic I took. thanks loads.


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Apr 4, 2018 15:23:13   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
It appears that the lens is cloudy. Hold the lens up to the light and look through from the mounting side like a telescope and see if you can spot the problem.
jaycoffsky wrote:
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2.8 lens which lacked snap. Frankly I am old, stupid, dumb, and did not know how to download the image. I will try now. Both pics were just made. the first looks like someone with a mild cataract and made with the 28-70f. the second made a few seconds later was with a 70-200 f.2 latest version. everything else including hand held is the same. Both were at 70mm focal distance. The 70-200 has the snap i was referring too not present on the other lens. Any ideas. I hope the pics get downloaded.
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2018 15:48:53   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
bpulv wrote:
Bill,

I just phoned Nikon and according to Nikon, none of their lenses come with a clear glass filter; although, they do sell clear glass filters. As I said, they are a large profit item.

Also, I stand by my statement that UV and glass filters should be avoided; assuming you take care of your lenses and clean them promptly when needed. As far as small pits and scratches on the front element, they have to be quite bad to even slightly affect picture quality. Lens caps and hoods provide the best protection.
Bill, br br I just phoned Nikon and according to ... (show quote)


Ask them about this:

" For working in challenging environments, the lens features a protective front meniscus element with a fluorine coating, which resists dirt and moisture on the front of the lens."

It sounds more impressive then filter. I remember when I bought my 200-400 they said it would only cost $300 to replace if it got damaged as opposed to a small fortune.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/about-nikon/press-room/press-release/hv3jlt4w/Go-Further-with-Superior-NIKKOR-Optics%3A-The-New-AF-S-NIKKOR-400mm-f%252F2.8E-FL-ED-VR-Super-Telephoto-Lens-and-AF-S-Teleconverter-TC-14E-III.html

You probably spoke to the same person who told me Nikon doesn't make a 1.25x converter.

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Apr 4, 2018 15:51:17   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
DanielB wrote:
It appears that the lens is cloudy. Hold the lens up to the light and look through from the mounting side like a telescope and see if you can spot the problem.

You really should take the time to read other responses, like this from the OP:
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured.
Perfect pic with the UV filter off.
We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer. No one to go to for this sort of thing.
Wow thanks loads.
Not only saved sending lens back but I was considering a replacement.
Snap is back and looks just as good as the 70-200 pic I took. thanks loads.

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Apr 4, 2018 16:38:23   #
JGW30033 Loc: Decatur GA
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured. Perfect pic with the UV filter off. We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer. No one to go to for this sort of thing. Wow thanks loads. Not only saved sending lens back but I was considering a replacement. Snap is back and looks just as good as the 70-200 pic I took. thanks loads.


We do have one camera store left-Wings Camera at the Clairmont/Briarcliff intersection. 3100 Briarcliff Rd NE, Atlanta, GA 30329.
Give them a try


Gilbert

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Apr 4, 2018 19:20:48   #
Joe Blow
 
Gene51 wrote:
A decent UV or clear filter will minimize actual lens cleaning, protect it from abrasive airborne particles hitting or attaching themselves to the front element, and in some cases take the brunt of an impact - sometimes saving you $100s in lens repair.

https://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

My experience over the past 51 yrs with this has more than proven that using a filter can help.


No. Lenses are protected with expensive coatings that repeal water and dust and help make them scratch resistant. Usually all a lens needs is a breath of air to clean any dust. Filters simply do not have the same baked on coatings. My guess is this filter has clouded over the years. It may be old plastic or left in heat.

It is a fallacy that a filter will absorb sufficient energy to cushion a fall. They are screwed in. That is a solid connection with no room for absorbing energy. A hood is plastic and will deform. That cushions the impact, lowering the deceleration. Remember, it isn't the fall that hurts, it's that sudden stop at the bottom. Reduce that sudden stop and you have a better chance of saving your lens.

The only filters needed for DSLRs are Circular Polarizers, Neutral Densities, and maybe trick filters such as Star Effect. UV and Skyight filters serve no purpose and can even cause problems as seen here.

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Apr 4, 2018 19:43:41   #
sjb3
 
Gene51 wrote:
A decent UV or clear filter will minimize actual lens cleaning, protect it from abrasive airborne particles hitting or attaching themselves to the front element, and in some cases take the brunt of an impact - sometimes saving you $100s in lens repair.

And you don't need to spend a fortune to get a good filter. A midrange Hoya is optically better than the B&Ws, Heliopans, Schneider and other esoteric (and expensive) filters.

https://www.lenstip.com/113.1-article-UV_filters_test.html

My experience over the past 51 yrs with this has more than proven that using a filter can help.
A decent UV or clear filter will minimize actual l... (show quote)


Since I'm one of those Old Guys for whom the use of UV filters as lens protection is an ingrained habit going back to the Sixties, there's nothing new that I could add to the discussion; this post is to thank you for that link, which I clicked on and discovered I'd made a darn good purchase in the Hoya filter I recently ordered for the 35mm DX f/1.8 prime lens on my Nikon d5300. The Pro 1 Digital MC UV0 received very high marks and I'd gotten mine at a clearance-level price. Like I said, I'm neither praising or knocking use of UV filters, they're just something I'm long used to having and would miss not having.

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Apr 5, 2018 06:46:45   #
CO
 
If you don't have a lens hood for it, make sure to get the original Nikon hood designed for it.

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Apr 5, 2018 06:59:51   #
cval52
 
Camera Service Co. in Smyrna is near you and reasonable. They do awesome work! I had lens issues and it turned out to be an issues with camera body.... not lens. Very happy with their service.

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Apr 5, 2018 07:01:06   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2.8 lens which lacked snap. Frankly I am old, stupid, dumb, and did not know how to download the image. I will try now. Both pics were just made. the first looks like someone with a mild cataract and made with the 28-70f. the second made a few seconds later was with a 70-200 f.2 latest version. everything else including hand held is the same. Both were at 70mm focal distance. The 70-200 has the snap i was referring too not present on the other lens. Any ideas. I hope the pics get downloaded.
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2... (show quote)


I strongly you sell the offending lens. Or better yet, trade it in, let others enjoy the experience of owning your outstanding offering.

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Apr 5, 2018 07:02:03   #
cval52
 
Also Peachtree Camera in Marietta

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Apr 5, 2018 07:16:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
I do have a UV filter on. will take off right now and try another pic.

Wow, Cataract cured. Perfect pic with the UV filter off. We do not have a camera store in Atlanta any longer. No one to go to for this sort of thing. Wow thanks loads. Not only saved sending lens back but I was considering a replacement. Snap is back and looks just as good as the 70-200 pic I took. thanks loads.


It's good you didn't bring it to be repaired. See if cleaning the filter helps.

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Apr 5, 2018 07:17:53   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
In repeated occasions I have stated that a UV filter is not necessary with digital. I have also said to those that use one for "protection" that the best protection for a lens is a front cap and a lens hood.
The problem with filters in general is that if it is not clean then the resulting images could be a disappointment. It could be the best filter in the world, perhaps the most expensive but if it is dirty it is useless.
Enjoy your wonderful lens now.

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Apr 5, 2018 07:42:21   #
Kiriakos
 
jaycoffsky wrote:
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2.8 lens which lacked snap. Frankly I am old, stupid, dumb, and did not know how to download the image. I will try now. Both pics were just made. the first looks like someone with a mild cataract and made with the 28-70f. the second made a few seconds later was with a 70-200 f.2 latest version. everything else including hand held is the same. Both were at 70mm focal distance. The 70-200 has the snap i was referring too not present on the other lens. Any ideas. I hope the pics get downloaded.
a few days ago I asked about my old nikon 28-70 f2... (show quote)


Let alone the sharpness and all that blah blah and tell me. Did you steal my bookshelf? I have one like this exactly.

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Apr 5, 2018 07:56:16   #
JWCoop
 
There is still an excellent camera repair business on Atlanta Highway in Smyrna. Called Camera Service Company. They rebuilt the shutter on a Nikon D90 for me. Did a great job. FYI.

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