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Apr 3, 2018 08:40:47   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
TriX wrote:
I would only quibble with #4. Shooting wide open, or nearly so, allows you to isolate the subject from the background, which is one of the reasons pros buy fast lenses. At a recent seminar by our local paper, which employs 9 pro photographers, one of the key points made by almost every presenter (portraits, photojournalism, sports, weddings...) was to shoot wide open or a stop down to isolate the subject.


If there had been a landscape photographer in attendance you would have heard a different point of view. In another post rehess recounted taking pictures of his daughters in a school play, in that situation using a wide aperture to isolate the girls would have resulted in images of them without context. I would venture to say if one of your local news photographers had been assigned to cover the play and did that, the editor would have had a fit. Isolation is the current "in fashion" trend, but there are many times when it is just wrong. A picture of an eagle against a clear blue sky is boring, include it's environment and the image tells a story.

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Apr 3, 2018 08:44:21   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Fotoartist wrote:
An article in "Picture Correct", the Author: Marianne Stenger, echoes my thoughts about this topic that I have noticed. Newbies seem to be using thinking from film days and are not up on new camera technology. I don't know where they're getting their information but it's usually outdated.

The mistakes are:
1. USING A SHUTTER SPEED THAT’S TOO SLOW
2. CHOOSING THE WRONG FOCUS POINT
3. NOT SHOOTING IN HIGH ISO
4. ALWAYS SHOOTING AT WIDE APERTURES
5. USING IMAGE STABILIZATION WHILE USING A TRIPOD
An article in "Picture Correct", the Aut... (show quote)


The very first mistake is not reading the manual.

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Apr 3, 2018 08:44:31   #
chefpat1
 
Interesting...thanks for posting this...will be testing at various ISO's 400 and under to see how this works with my present projects with my Mark III.

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Apr 3, 2018 08:53:31   #
Riverrune
 
I still use a low ISO so long as the light can handle it for the shutter speed and aperture I need. If not I don't hesitate to go higher, as much as 1600, something I'd never have done with film.

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Apr 3, 2018 08:56:06   #
McCasland
 
Curious, why do you not use image stabilization while using a tripod other than it is not needed?

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Apr 3, 2018 09:07:59   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
LarryFitz wrote:
Number 3 - When I went from Point and shoot to DSLR, I remembered from my old SLR to avoid film with ISO high then 400. It took me awhile to be comfortable using 800 or above, now I use it when required, that get my shutter speed up.

Even if ASA 400 was a typical upper limit for many film users, one reason newer photographers might stick with lower ISO settings is because with the type of equipment they are more likely to use, at least compared with what professionals such as the author of the article have access to, there is a readily visible fall-off in IQ at higher ISO settings, especially with smaller formats. For some reason they like clearer pictures and are forced to larger apertures and longer exposures even if they would rather not. I offer this as a newbie myself even though I have not made a careful study of newbie habits as the author obviously has.

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Apr 3, 2018 09:10:59   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Rich1939 wrote:
If there had been a landscape photographer in attendance you would have heard a different point of view. In another post rehess recounted taking pictures of his daughters in a school play, in that situation using a wide aperture to isolate the girls would have resulted in images of them without context. I would venture to say if one of your local news photographers had been assigned to cover the play and did that, the editor would have had a fit. Isolation is the current "in fashion" trend, but there are many times when it is just wrong. A picture of an eagle against a clear blue sky is boring, include it's environment and the image tells a story.
If there had been a landscape photographer in atte... (show quote)


I completely agree that it’s dependent on the context and the goal of the shot, hence my objection to a general rule labeling shooting wide open as a beginner’€™s mistake. Here’s an example I believe where shooting nearly wide open accomplishes the subject isolation I’m referring to. Interestingly, it’s a school play also.



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Apr 3, 2018 09:20:25   #
Riverrune
 
Image stabilization is expecting at least some slight motion, and sometimes reacts as if there were movement when there is none, as when on a tripod. Just be sure to turn it off when using a tripod.

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Apr 3, 2018 09:22:56   #
lsimpkins Loc: SE Pennsylvania
 
Rich1939 wrote:
More or less concur except "3. NOT SHOOTING IN HIGH ISO". That is the opposite of what I would tell a newbe. I believe you should start with the lowest ISO you can use and only raise it as needed.

While I will agree with this in the long term (after experience is gained) I have to agree that too low an ISO is one of the reasons #1 and #4 happen.

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Apr 3, 2018 09:29:54   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Riverrune wrote:
Image stabilization is expecting at least some slight motion, and sometimes reacts as if there were movement when there is none, as when on a tripod. Just be sure to turn it off when using a tripod.

It seemed interesting that the author would regard the failure to turn off IS when using a tripod as an entry level photographer's thinking based on the film days, at least as it came across in the original post. Maybe I read it wrong. I cannot remember I or any of my friends, for tha tmatter, ever leaving IS turned on with any of our film cameras when using tripods.

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Apr 3, 2018 09:30:26   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Glad I found someone who actually understands that! I have that mode on 3 of my Pentax bodies and even from the instruction manuals never understood it. Not sure I'd use it as I mainly shoot Av or M, and Tv for action or moving subjects if my aim is to stop motion. No matter what mode I'm in I watch the other parameters like a hawk (old habit from decades of film shooting). So this now makes me wonder what Pentax's Sv mode is? Early on (around 2011) I once accidentally set my K-20D to Sv thinking it was like Nikon's "S" (see at that point I had had no reason to try Tv). Yikes, the camera was making "crazy" confusing choices so I put it back to Av. So what then is Sv? "Fully Auto ISO," what is that? You seem to have some insight.
Glad I found someone who actually understands that... (show quote)

With 'P' mode, the camera chooses initial values for shutter speed and aperture, but the user can monitor those in the viewfinder and use the front e-dial to override the shutter speed choice {and camera will automatically adjust aperture to 'fit'} or use the rear e-dial to override the aperture choice {and camera will automatically adjust shutter speed to 'fit'}. In 'Sv' mode {'S' stands for 'Sensitivity'}, the starting point is the same, but now the rear e-dial controls ISO setting, the front e-dial does nothing, and the user has no direct control over shutter speed and aperture; I have never taken a picture using 'Sv' mode - and right now I cannot imagine ever using it.

Incidentally, reviewing my K-30 manual before writing this, I noticed a footnote which says something like, "When the camera is in 'M' mode under auto-ISO, it will operate in 'TAv' mode"

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Apr 3, 2018 09:43:54   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Gene51 wrote:
To keep it simple. IS looks for movement, a good tripod will dampen the kind of low frequency, high amplitude movement that you get when you are hand holding, and will start to move on it's own when it doesn't sense any external movement.


That depends, on Canon lenses, some, they say to leave the IS on, I tend to turn mine off at faster shutter speeds as it does save on the battery. If photographing a non moving subject I always turn it off. If you are photographing BIF (birds in flight) you do get a steadier image in the VF (view finder) with IS turned on. As we should all know or learn as we progress with our photography is that "rules" are made to be broken or we will turn out to be cookie cutter photographers. Learn the basics and then have fun and experiment.

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Apr 3, 2018 09:45:36   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Steve Perry wrote:
1. USING A SHUTTER SPEED THAT’S TOO SLOW
Agree

2. CHOOSING THE WRONG FOCUS POINT

Still agree

3. NOT SHOOTING IN HIGH ISO

This is application specific. ISO should only be increased when needed. ISO is NOT part of exposure in digital cameras since it doesn't increase the sensitivity of the sensor. ISO is simply applied gain, like a volume knob for brightness. ISO doesn't increase the sensitivity of your sensor anymore than turning up the volume in your car makes the radio signal come in stronger. So, for the best results, you want to keep the amount of gain to a minimum and that means NOT shooting high ISO when you don't need to. Most cameras are best at base ISO, your D4s is actually best at ISO 200.

4. ALWAYS SHOOTING AT WIDE APERTURES

Again, application specific.

5. USING IMAGE STABILIZATION WHILE USING A TRIPOD

Again, depends. Most modern stabilizes lenses can be used on a tripod with the head lose - as is typically done with wildlife. Don't use stabilization with a locked tripod.

I bring up these points not to be argumentative, but because I detest simple little lists like that. They don't apply to every situation but new photographers take it that way. They can often cause more problems than they solve.
1. USING A SHUTTER SPEED THAT’S TOO SLOW br Agree... (show quote)



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Apr 3, 2018 09:45:38   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
illininitt wrote:
Just put it auto and forget about it. Why do think soooooooooooooo many people but auto over manual? It's easier...and much less stressful. And yet....it's get the same results. Put it in auto and move on. Life is too short for manual....ask 93% of the car drivers in the US.


First - Cars are not the same as cameras
Second - Auto is fine for those who want to use it or when the circumstance makes it the best option
Third - If you think Auto gets the same results you have no ability to judge a photo
Fourth - You really need to learn how to spell

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Apr 3, 2018 09:47:37   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Maybe that's a good argument for getting a cheap tripod.

Oops, be careful. Read Gene51’s post earlier, #12 (lesson learned).

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