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Mar 25, 2018 13:51:28   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
jaymatt wrote:
I find it interesting that twice in one week my photos have been altered, though my information statement says specifically not to do so without my permission. Do people not read?


As I look through your Gallery posts over the past month, I can't find a single incident of someone responding by posting an altered image of yours.
Are you sure you are not simply imagining it? Perhaps it happened somewhere else other than on UHH?

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Mar 25, 2018 14:00:12   #
Joe Blow
 
I still don't know what you found wrong here. If you ask for comments and someone is posting a suggested edit, then you invited it. If someone offers an edit uninvited, then OK, you have a point.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:02:16   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
rook2c4 wrote:
As I look through your Gallery posts over the past month, I can't find a single incident of someone responding by posting an altered image of yours.
Are you sure you are not simply imagining it? Perhaps it happened somewhere else other than on UHH?


Look again--twice in the last week, here on UHH.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:02:51   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Joe Blow wrote:
I still don't know what you found wrong here. If you ask for comments and someone is posting a suggested edit, then you invited it. If someone offers an edit uninvited, then OK, you have a point.


I did not ask for comments.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:08:21   #
Joe Blow
 
jaymatt wrote:
I did not ask for comments.


I can feel you're upset and I might well be too. Yet, I've seen no reference to either of your complaints. Can you post the links please? Thank you.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:11:38   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Joe Blow wrote:
I can feel you're upset and I might well be too. Yet, I've seen no reference to either of your complaints. Can you post the links please? Thank you.


The perpetrators and I have discussed the matter, and we have made peace, I believe; therefore I am naming no names. The question is why this happens in the first place.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:15:16   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
TheDman wrote:
You're absolutely right, it's a private website and the owner can make whatever rules they want. They can ban people from France if they want. Let's just not pretend that forum rules have anything to do with actual laws, or that any of this is 'borderline theft', or even unethical.

So, your ethics say what you want to do is more important than what UHH rules allow you to do???

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Mar 25, 2018 14:19:07   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
If everyone made it as clear as you do, with your large and colorful font, the problem wouldn't be what it is. I don't read all the tiny little print at the bottom of most posts as it is usually just a list of the gear people own. Actually though I haven't seen this to be much of a problem here.
..Cam

Rongnongno wrote:
Well, it is not about not reading but being rude... Telling folks what NOT to do is rude on UHH. Check my signature. THAT created my reputation for being a rude SOB. Quite honestly I enjoy folks being riled up by it. Fools.

My signature, in case you have set this option off. (Which may explain why some do not read it by the way....)

Do not post pictures or edits in any of the threads I create unless you are specifically invited to.
I am not an artist. I am a voyeur and a witness.
Well, it is not about not reading but being rude..... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2018 14:26:58   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
rook2c4 wrote:
As I look through your Gallery posts over the past month, I can't find a single incident of someone responding by posting an altered image of yours.
Are you sure you are not simply imagining it? Perhaps it happened somewhere else other than on UHH?

I spotted at least on (the last in gallery, down in the pages).

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Mar 25, 2018 14:28:02   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
rehess wrote:
So, your ethics say what you want to do is more important than what UHH rules allow you to do???


My ethics say there is nothing wrong with critiquing a photo with examples, which is not only legal but normal on every other photo forum I've seen except this one. I think it has a lot to do with this being an older clientele that doesn't get how the internet works

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Mar 25, 2018 14:30:26   #
Joe Blow
 
OK, searching your posts I found one. The person commenting posted this with his "edit"
"John-
I took the liberty of converting #2 to B&W. I hope you like it and forgive me for "messing" with your image. Best regards.
M***"


I find that to be an intelligent comment. There had been others that also made the suggestion of posting it in B&W. Your reply to him was less polite.

I'm seeing your reaction to be selfish. IMHO, those above constructive critiquing will continue to produce images in need of critiquing.

I have my own reasons for disliking the image but since you didn't ask, or want to know, I'll reserve my critique. It would be a waste of my time to point out how a circular polarizer would have helped, the distracting vignetting in the corners, or lack of saturation in the images. I'll keep those pointers to myself and not share what I see. Because while I do believe these are nice, I also believe they could be much better.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-520479-4.html

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Mar 25, 2018 14:32:18   #
Joe Blow
 
TheDman wrote:
My ethics say there is nothing wrong with critiquing a photo with examples, which is not only legal but normal on every other photo forum I've seen except this one. I think it has a lot to do with this being an older clientele that doesn't get how the internet works

In summary, this is the "Keep Off My Lawn" syndrome.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:33:59   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
TheDman wrote:
My ethics say there is nothing wrong with critiquing a photo with examples, which is not only legal but normal on every other photo forum I've seen except this one. I think it has a lot to do with this being an older clientele that doesn't get how the internet works

I am a retired software developer.
I understand the Internet.
I also understand rules.

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Mar 25, 2018 14:37:17   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Joe Blow wrote:
OK, searching your posts I found one. The person commenting posted this with his "edit"
"John-
I took the liberty of converting #2 to B&W. I hope you like it and forgive me for "messing" with your image. Best regards.
M***"


I find that to be an intelligent comment. There had been others that also made the suggestion of posting it in B&W. Your reply to him was less polite.

I'm seeing your reaction to be selfish. IMHO, those above constructive critiquing will continue to produce images in need of critiquing.

I have my own reasons for disliking the image but since you didn't ask, or want to know, I'll reserve my critique. It would be a waste of my time to point out how a circular polarizer would have helped, the distracting vignetting in the corners, or lack of saturation in the images. I'll keep those pointers to myself and not share what I see. Because while I do believe these are nice, I also believe they could be much better.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-520479-4.html
OK, searching your posts I found one. The person ... (show quote)

Ok, the guy knows he is wrong (who did the edit) and says so... So who is at fault? The guy who decides to knowingly do wrong or the guy who answer somewhat angrily?

As to the reaction being selfish? Explain a bit here.

Quite honestly you are out whack with your perspective or should I become rude and say *** *** *** ** ******* ****?

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Mar 25, 2018 14:45:47   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
TheDman wrote:
My ethics say there is nothing wrong with critiquing a photo with examples, which is not only legal but normal on every other photo forum I've seen except this one. I think it has a lot to do with this being an older clientele that doesn't get how the internet works


It has nothing to do with how the internet works. It has everything to do with common courtesy; perhaps the younger clientele doesn’t get that.

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