D4 vs. 850
Mar 10, 2018 20:36:52 #
I really like my D4. However, after reading all the hype and all the new bells and whistles, i.e., focus stacking, etc., I am thinking about trading my D4 for an 850. Does this make any sense? I am not the kind of photographer that needs the latest tech but if the improvements were compelling enough I would be willing to pay the cost difference.
Mar 10, 2018 20:57:03 #
The D4 is more than enough to deliver superb results. Why chase technology, bells & whistles, when they do not improve your vision or images? Just my opinion.
SVP
SVP
Mar 10, 2018 21:01:27 #
Robeng
Loc: California
Pretzel wrote:
I really like my D4. However, after reading all the hype and all the new bells and whistles, i.e., focus stacking, etc., I am thinking about trading my D4 for an 850. Does this make any sense? I am not the kind of photographer that needs the latest tech but if the improvements were compelling enough I would be willing to pay the cost difference.
I have a D4s & D800 at the time the D850 came out. At first I was going to hold off on the D850 until Nikon gave me one to play with. After using it for a couple of days I noticed all the great features the D850 had over the D800 it was a game changer for me. I purchased the D850 and love it.
Mar 10, 2018 21:18:00 #
Kiron Kid wrote:
The D4 is more than enough to deliver superb results. Why chase technology, bells & whistles, when they do not improve your vision or images? Just my opinion.
SVP
SVP
In camera focus stacking, time lapse and silent shutter. Tilt screen and illuminated back buttons, joystick sub selector. ISO 64 to 25,600. Nikon D5 focusing system, and 45 Mp resolution that has to be seen to be believed. 4K video, 7 fps without grip, 9 fps with grip. It is more than bells and whistles, it is a tool that will match your native capabilities and exceed them step by step.
Downside: It is a heavy bitch of a camera.
Mar 10, 2018 21:28:53 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
In camera focus stacking, time lapse and silent shutter. Tilt screen and illuminated back buttons, joystick sub selector. ISO 64 to 25,600. Nikon D5 focusing system, and 45 Mp resolution that has to be seen to be believed. 4K video, 7 fps without grip, 9 fps with grip. It is more than bells and whistles, it is a tool that will match your native capabilities and exceed them step by step.
Downside: It is a heavy bitch of a camera.
Downside: It is a heavy bitch of a camera.
Its CONSIDERABLY lighter than a D4!
Mar 10, 2018 21:34:50 #
Robeng
Loc: California
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
In camera focus stacking, time lapse and silent shutter. Tilt screen and illuminated back buttons, joystick sub selector. ISO 64 to 25,600. Nikon D5 focusing system, and 45 Mp resolution that has to be seen to be believed. 4K video, 7 fps without grip, 9 fps with grip. It is more than bells and whistles, it is a tool that will match your native capabilities and exceed them step by step.
Downside: It is a heavy bitch of a camera.
Downside: It is a heavy bitch of a camera.
To get the 9 frames per second you have to purchase the grip adapter and use EN-EL18 batteries similar to the one used in the D5 & D4s. Just purchasing a grip won't work.
Mar 11, 2018 06:11:10 #
Robeng wrote:
To get the 9 frames per second you have to purchase the grip adapter and use EN-EL18 batteries similar to the one used in the D5 & D4s. Just purchasing a grip won't work.
Yeah, that's been a real deal breaker for many. Nikon doesn't know what to do with all of their excess production.
Mar 11, 2018 07:26:53 #
Pretzel wrote:
I really like my D4. However, after reading all the hype and all the new bells and whistles, i.e., focus stacking, etc., I am thinking about trading my D4 for an 850. Does this make any sense? I am not the kind of photographer that needs the latest tech but if the improvements were compelling enough I would be willing to pay the cost difference.
It's always tough deciding between to good items, especially when you can't have both. I don't have my links on this computer, but look for comparisons between the two.
https://www.google.com/search?q=camera+comparison+sites&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS729US729&oq=camera+comparison+sites&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.4127j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Mar 11, 2018 08:48:27 #
Here's the deal for me, though. If I spent 3 grand on a D850, I'd have to spend 3-4 grand on a lens to go with it, despite already having a 28-70 f2.8 and 70-200mm f2.8 (which aren't even on Thom Hogan's list of acceptable lenses for the D850!!). The question is, can I get this old carcass in shape enough to be worth shelling out 7 grand??
Mar 11, 2018 09:36:40 #
When did bells & whistles replace Vision and skill? You already have what is more than sufficient to produce fantastic images. Put the money and time into honing your vision and skill. 👍
KK
KK
Mar 11, 2018 10:20:02 #
I've owned both. I LOVED my D4 (well, not as much as my D5, but still it's a great camera). That said, at least for my work, there's no way I'd use a D4 over my D850. Heck, even my D5 now takes a backseat to the D850 for most of my work.
Mar 11, 2018 10:27:21 #
SteveR wrote:
Here's the deal for me, though. If I spent 3 grand on a D850, I'd have to spend 3-4 grand on a lens to go with it, despite already having a 28-70 f2.8 and 70-200mm f2.8 (which aren't even on Thom Hogan's list of acceptable lenses for the D850!!). The question is, can I get this old carcass in shape enough to be worth shelling out 7 grand??
Hogan does not have a list of "acceptable" lenses for the D850. He has a list of "best" lenses for the D850, which he also calls recommended. The 28-70mm, superseded 10 years ago by the 24-70mm, did not make the cut but the newer versions of both the 24-70 f2.8 and the 70-200 f2.8 are on the best list.
Mar 11, 2018 13:19:41 #
Pretzel wrote:
I really like my D4. However, after reading all the hype and all the new bells and whistles, i.e., focus stacking, etc., I am thinking about trading my D4 for an 850. Does this make any sense? I am not the kind of photographer that needs the latest tech but if the improvements were compelling enough I would be willing to pay the cost difference.
In camer focus stacking produces a jpeg! If you don't use RAW that is no issue. You can also focus stack in LR and PS.
Mar 11, 2018 13:29:36 #
BobHartung wrote:
In camer focus stacking produces a jpeg! If you don't use RAW that is no issue. You can also focus stack in LR and PS.
While I don't have the D850 (yet) I don't believe your contention that the
D850 only produces a .jpeg, rather than jpeg and/or raw
Mar 11, 2018 13:30:29 #
BobHartung wrote:
In camer focus stacking produces a jpeg! If you don't use RAW that is no issue. You can also focus stack in LR and PS.
It does Jpeg and RAW - all my tests were with RAW.
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