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Mar 10, 2018 17:12:01   #
roadsideron Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
This is cropped to 60 percent of the original 24 gigapixel file. Cheap 35mm prime lens, A6300.


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Mar 10, 2018 17:15:07   #
roadsideron Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
This bird squawks a lot and mimics sounds. She has now picked up the phrase, "shut up" and says it over and over again. I can now get her to say it on command. Sometime she will look at me and out of the blue say, shut up.

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Mar 10, 2018 17:54:43   #
rlk1nc
 
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between you and your apparent sidekick, chapman, at selmslie .
This is my first visit to Hedgehog, and I'm a bit troubled at what I have seen so far.
Perhaps as a new member it would not be appropriate to say that the two of you are assholes, so I won't. What I will say is that your comments to- and about- another contributor amount to nothing more than bullying. As for me, I gave up that sort of treatment of others in about 2nd grade. How unfortunate it is that someone wanting to learn more about photography here first stumbles upon evidence that for two members their ignorance pales only in comparison to their arrogance.
So it bothered you that someone further elucidated for others the points you made? OK...let me get this straight - you were offended when someone who agreed with you added credibility and more detail to what you wrote? And then you and your pet carried on a personal attack because of it. Amazing. For me, while your reply to the original question was clear and helpful, I also appreciated the more in-depth explanation of selmsie's post. While what I am about to write may be confusing by virtue of your apparent shortcomings in the area of cognitive functioning, I believe it is beneficial to the fluorishing minds of sentient beings to go beyond a mere sentence or two about a topic in which they are interested. Those with a higher constitution often want to know the "why" and "how" along with the "what." This concept precludes one from accepting as truth and forming opinions without a solid base of information.
Pretend for a moment that I want to buy a new car. I look at the ads, see different cars on the road, know what I want to spend, etc. I'm also going to talk with people who know the car - mechanics, previous buyers, Consumer Reports, etc. Now let's say one of those recommends I purchase a Chevrolet Impala. He doesn't give much information as to why, but I respect his opinion and will seriously consider buying the car. But do I just go straight to the dealership and buy an Impala? No, of course not. What is best for him may not be for my needs. I want to know more about the car. What about its cost, reliability, performance, gas mileage? Are there other considerations, such as towing capabilities, trunk space, rear seat headroom, safety history, and options?
So I talk to someone else, not to offend the first person I asked, but simply to learn more.
That person may agree with the initial recommendation to purchase an Impala, but he goes on to tell me several reasons he thinks it's a good choice...or maybe not a good choice.
But if the person who recommended the car in the first place were like YOU, he and his sidekick would get together and engage in a tirade of insults directed at me because I wanted to learn more about what he recommended in the first place. Wouldn't that be ridiculous for those two guys to act like that? I would think those two guys are assholes.

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Mar 10, 2018 18:01:06   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
rlk1nc wrote:
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between you and your apparent sidekick, chapman, at selmslie .
This is my first visit to Hedgehog, and I'm a bit troubled at what I have seen so far.
Perhaps as a new member it would not be appropriate to say that the two of you are assholes, so I won't. What I will say is that your comments to- and about- another contributor amount to nothing more than bullying. As for me, I gave up that sort of treatment of others in about 2nd grade. How unfortunate it is that someone wanting to learn more about photography here first stumbles upon evidence that for two members their ignorance pales only in comparison to their arrogance.
So it bothered you that someone further elucidated for others the points you made? OK...let me get this straight - you were offended when someone who agreed with you added credibility and more detail to what you wrote? And then you and your pet carried on a personal attack because of it. Amazing. For me, while your reply to the original question was clear and helpful, I also appreciated the more in-depth explanation of selmsie's post. While what I am about to write may be confusing by virtue of your apparent shortcomings in the area of cognitive functioning, I believe it is beneficial to the fluorishing minds of sentient beings to go beyond a mere sentence or two about a topic in which they are interested. Those with a higher constitution often want to know the "why" and "how" along with the "what." This concept precludes one from accepting as truth and forming opinions without a solid base of information.
Pretend for a moment that I want to buy a new car. I look at the ads, see different cars on the road, know what I want to spend, etc. I'm also going to talk with people who know the car - mechanics, previous buyers, Consumer Reports, etc. Now let's say one of those recommends I purchase a Chevrolet Impala. He doesn't give much information as to why, but I respect his opinion and will seriously consider buying the car. But do I just go straight to the dealership and buy an Impala? No, of course not. What is best for him may not be for my needs. I want to know more about the car. What about its cost, reliability, performance, gas mileage? Are there other considerations, such as towing capabilities, trunk space, rear seat headroom, safety history, and options?
So I talk to someone else, not to offend the first person I asked, but simply to learn more.
That person may agree with the initial recommendation to purchase an Impala, but he goes on to tell me several reasons he thinks it's a good choice...or maybe not a good choice.
But if the person who recommended the car in the first place were like YOU, he and his sidekick would get together and engage in a tirade of insults directed at me because I wanted to learn more about what he recommended in the first place. Wouldn't that be ridiculous for those two guys to act like that? I would think those two guys are assholes.
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between yo... (show quote)


Well since you didn’t hit the quote we don’t know who you are addressing so you just wasted your long winded post.

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Mar 10, 2018 18:03:09   #
roadsideron Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
The thot plickens. Drama at 11:00

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Mar 10, 2018 18:20:28   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rlk1nc wrote:
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between you and your apparent sidekick, chapman, at selmslie .
This is my first visit to Hedgehog, and I'm a bit troubled at what I have seen so far.
Perhaps as a new member it would not be appropriate to say that the two of you are assholes, so I won't. What I will say is that your comments to- and about- another contributor amount to nothing more than bullying. As for me, I gave up that sort of treatment of others in about 2nd grade. How unfortunate it is that someone wanting to learn more about photography here first stumbles upon evidence that for two members their ignorance pales only in comparison to their arrogance.
So it bothered you that someone further elucidated for others the points you made? OK...let me get this straight - you were offended when someone who agreed with you added credibility and more detail to what you wrote? And then you and your pet carried on a personal attack because of it. Amazing. For me, while your reply to the original question was clear and helpful, I also appreciated the more in-depth explanation of selmsie's post. While what I am about to write may be confusing by virtue of your apparent shortcomings in the area of cognitive functioning, I believe it is beneficial to the fluorishing minds of sentient beings to go beyond a mere sentence or two about a topic in which they are interested. Those with a higher constitution often want to know the "why" and "how" along with the "what." This concept precludes one from accepting as truth and forming opinions without a solid base of information.
Pretend for a moment that I want to buy a new car. I look at the ads, see different cars on the road, know what I want to spend, etc. I'm also going to talk with people who know the car - mechanics, previous buyers, Consumer Reports, etc. Now let's say one of those recommends I purchase a Chevrolet Impala. He doesn't give much information as to why, but I respect his opinion and will seriously consider buying the car. But do I just go straight to the dealership and buy an Impala? No, of course not. What is best for him may not be for my needs. I want to know more about the car. What about its cost, reliability, performance, gas mileage? Are there other considerations, such as towing capabilities, trunk space, rear seat headroom, safety history, and options?
So I talk to someone else, not to offend the first person I asked, but simply to learn more.
That person may agree with the initial recommendation to purchase an Impala, but he goes on to tell me several reasons he thinks it's a good choice...or maybe not a good choice.
But if the person who recommended the car in the first place were like YOU, he and his sidekick would get together and engage in a tirade of insults directed at me because I wanted to learn more about what he recommended in the first place. Wouldn't that be ridiculous for those two guys to act like that? I would think those two guys are assholes.
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between yo... (show quote)


Was this rant really the reason you joined the HOG, or are you already a member under a different name?

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Mar 10, 2018 18:40:47   #
Angmo
 
Bill_de wrote:
Was this rant really the reason you joined the HOG, or are you already a member under a different name?

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QED..

Maybe they allow sock puppets here.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:04:31   #
chaman
 
rlk1nc wrote:
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between you and your apparent sidekick, chapman, at selmslie .
This is my first visit to Hedgehog, and I'm a bit troubled at what I have seen so far.
Perhaps as a new member it would not be appropriate to say that the two of you are assholes, so I won't. What I will say is that your comments to- and about- another contributor amount to nothing more than bullying. As for me, I gave up that sort of treatment of others in about 2nd grade. How unfortunate it is that someone wanting to learn more about photography here first stumbles upon evidence that for two members their ignorance pales only in comparison to their arrogance.
So it bothered you that someone further elucidated for others the points you made? OK...let me get this straight - you were offended when someone who agreed with you added credibility and more detail to what you wrote? And then you and your pet carried on a personal attack because of it. Amazing. For me, while your reply to the original question was clear and helpful, I also appreciated the more in-depth explanation of selmsie's post. While what I am about to write may be confusing by virtue of your apparent shortcomings in the area of cognitive functioning, I believe it is beneficial to the fluorishing minds of sentient beings to go beyond a mere sentence or two about a topic in which they are interested. Those with a higher constitution often want to know the "why" and "how" along with the "what." This concept precludes one from accepting as truth and forming opinions without a solid base of information.
Pretend for a moment that I want to buy a new car. I look at the ads, see different cars on the road, know what I want to spend, etc. I'm also going to talk with people who know the car - mechanics, previous buyers, Consumer Reports, etc. Now let's say one of those recommends I purchase a Chevrolet Impala. He doesn't give much information as to why, but I respect his opinion and will seriously consider buying the car. But do I just go straight to the dealership and buy an Impala? No, of course not. What is best for him may not be for my needs. I want to know more about the car. What about its cost, reliability, performance, gas mileage? Are there other considerations, such as towing capabilities, trunk space, rear seat headroom, safety history, and options?
So I talk to someone else, not to offend the first person I asked, but simply to learn more.
That person may agree with the initial recommendation to purchase an Impala, but he goes on to tell me several reasons he thinks it's a good choice...or maybe not a good choice.
But if the person who recommended the car in the first place were like YOU, he and his sidekick would get together and engage in a tirade of insults directed at me because I wanted to learn more about what he recommended in the first place. Wouldn't that be ridiculous for those two guys to act like that? I would think those two guys are assholes.
I have been reading back-and-forth digs between yo... (show quote)


Pretend for a moment ANYONE here cares about your condescending rant......now continue to pretend....and pretend.....and pretend. Now give yourself a nice kiss and go to sleep. That better?

And yes, this seems like a second account by some lost soul here craving attention....

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Mar 10, 2018 19:05:58   #
chaman
 
roadsideron wrote:
The thot plickens. Drama at 11:00


Drama? Nahh, more like comedy, IMO.

:)

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Mar 10, 2018 19:26:22   #
Jim Bob
 
chaman wrote:
Because sometimes he oversharpens his images, IMO.


Agreed. I sent him a pm once on this issue and he took serious umbrage.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:31:21   #
Jim Bob
 
Angmo wrote:
Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but relax.

Its so much more than a camera. Of course the camera is an important aspect, but there is so much more. Much much more...

...your post processing skills. What you see for a shoot, your vision, planning, set design, listening to your heart and your clients desires. Seeing the end result in your mind and using your tools to create that vision. Seeing the light. Creativity.... ya! a camera matters but is in no way ever a primary concern.

You can take a 10 Year old 12 megapixel camera and never get close to its true level of quality or do it any justice at all.

Heres an example I posted here before with a 10 year old 12 megapixel camera. With a 23 year old lens bought in 1995.

So don’t sweat pixels or anything else. I’ll be getting a new camera soon and place this one in backup due to age. Not pixels. Ive produced full poster size prints for clients with zero effort on the pixels part.

Meanwhile, I’m getting a continuously excellent return on investment. And most important - very happy clients who love the results and could care less about that greasy pixel stuff.
Oh boy. Didn€™t read all the great comments but r... (show quote)


A little “hot” around the eyes, i.e., too bright and a little too contrasty, but your point is well illustrated and taken.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:32:01   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
Absolutly correct! Whatever was said was spot on I’d say. Couldnt agree more. Somebody nailed it because the answer was right on the nose. I don’t know why we all agree with it but we do, to a man, or woman, I found the arguments compelling to such a degree as I have ever heard.



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Mar 10, 2018 23:48:11   #
pmackd Loc: Alameda CA
 
One thing that interested me about the sharp shot of the parrot, was that it was taken with a "cheap 35mm lens." It's relatively easy to make sharp 35 mm lenses for APS/C cameras, so long as they don't have to be too fast. ie not faster than f1.8. Nikon makes two such excellent lenses for APS/C (DX) cameras, the 35 mm f1.8 and the 40mm f2.8 DX "micro." These are among Nikon's sharpest lenses and cost only about $200. each. Obviously the photo of the tame parrot had to be taken from quite close. In the wild a photographer would not be able to get much closer than 15 feet, if that, to get a comparable or sharper shot, and would need a 300mm or longer lens. Primes in that range are, as most of us know, much, much more expensive. So the takeaway is that certain photos require expensive equipment to achieve excellence, while others do not.

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Mar 11, 2018 00:35:36   #
roadsideron Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
It was f1.7 no image stabilization hand held, 80 dollars. Works for me.

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Mar 11, 2018 00:36:15   #
roadsideron Loc: Apache Junction, AZ
 
Manual focus.

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