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Mar 10, 2018 15:19:37   #
PeterBergh
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
... in Canada, there is a law against "setting a man trap". ...


A similar law is valid in the US

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Mar 10, 2018 15:28:04   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
Nice gear. I have a Nikon D800, D300S, and D200 with Nikon 16-35 f4 WA zoom, Nikon 50 f1.8, Nikon 24-120, Nikon 16-85, Nikon 80-400, all VR except the 50, Tamron 90 macro, Tamron 150-600 and Nikon 28-300 VR. I got it all covered, I think.

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Mar 10, 2018 15:28:29   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Harvey wrote:
...the only time my home was robbed was in a condo complex near a park east of SF a few miles - the crooks went right to my fridge and got food to give my German Shepard and then helped themselves...


Reminds me of when I got home from work and found my television set and both my dogs sitting in the driveway.... I kinda knew something was wrong!

Turned out that the thieves were a crew of 8 or more who were hitting two houses at the same time. The other house down the street was next door to a cop, who was at home, heard glass breaking and confronted the guys who broke in there. They took off and alerted the others, apparently, who left my home quickly on foot with only a few things they could fit in pockets (incl. a nice Olympus camera!)

The off-duty cop followed them to a nearby apartment building and phoned it in.... But no one was ever caught and nothing ever recovered, go figure!

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Mar 10, 2018 15:33:23   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Here is my watch-cat and trusty accountant. Intruders will have to deal with my alarm system and my B.U.P. deterrent; Big Ugly Photographer.

Pardon the tacky montage but that IS my face!


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Mar 10, 2018 15:37:35   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
leftj wrote:
Of course you’re trying to make a political point and that’s ok. Just don’t deny it.


It depends on what you mean by a political point. Clearly statistics can be used either way, but please don't try to tell me what my opinions or motivations are. The evidence is overwhelming that gun owners are at greater risk than non gun owners. How one uses that information is the political side. The point that I wish to emphasize here is not a political one, but one of common sense. By posting to the world that that he is going to be away for several days and including the information that reveals the home address is less than wise.

Regardless of any political considerations, would you disagree with that point?

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Mar 10, 2018 15:44:01   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Acountry330 wrote:
Did it make you feel better in calling the guy an idiot? He is proud of his selection of cameras he chose for his upcoming travels. If you do not agree with his choice of cameras that is OK. But calling him a idiot is not. Happy shooting.


Jim bob is on many folks "IGNORE-LIST for many SUCH mean-ness. RJM

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Mar 10, 2018 15:50:20   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
digit-up wrote:
Jim bob is on many folks "IGNORE-LIST for many SUCH mean-ness. RJM


That much aside, how would you evaluate the OP's posting of information that revealed his travel plans, date of departure, and home address?

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Mar 10, 2018 16:42:41   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Peterff wrote:
That much aside, how would you evaluate the OP's posting of information that revealed his travel plans, date of departure, and home address?


I think the chances of the OP attracting criminals due to this thread is slim. May I assume, that you don’t bank? Or live in a neighborhood? Don’t ever leave your home that is many miles away from the closest town? Don’t use a credit card? Make phone calls? Use the Internet for surfing? Just to name a few instances that can get you in trouble. But your point is well taken.

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Mar 10, 2018 17:09:15   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
Harvey wrote:
I have to laugh at this - but in truth these "ankle biters" make a lot of noise and are good watch dogs - the only time my home was robbed was in a condo complex near a park east of SF a few miles - the crooks went right to my fridge and got food to give my German Shepard and then helped themselves.
When we moved into a tract area we got some good advise - buy and mount a dummy CCTV camera and post a sign "Warning 24 hr Surveillance in use. 13 yrs and no break-ins like some neighbors had.
Harvey
I have to laugh at this - but in truth these "... (show quote)


Hey umm, harvey? The cat’s outta the bag now!

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Mar 10, 2018 17:40:05   #
PeterBergh
 
Peterff wrote:
... statistics can be used either way ...


Lying with statistics is so common that a book was published: Lying with statistics by Darrel Huff.

I don't believe in any statistics except, possibly, from people who don't have an ax to grind on that particular subject. Even people who don't have an ax to grind often make mistakes. (Having taught mathematical statistics in my misspent youth, I know that there are more than a few pitfalls.)

Particularly in the gun debate, both sides cook their statistics so that the statistics "support" their point. You can "prove" anything by cooking your statistics or your data.

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Mar 10, 2018 17:53:59   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PH CIB wrote:
I guess I am an Idiot,,,my name and location are not posted on UHH and the pictured Gear is not that expensive,,,plus I have a Safe, an Alarm System, a Dog, a Concealed Carry Permit and live around the corner from a Police Station,,,so I apologize for offending anyone,,,I have seen pictures of Members Gear before by Members on UHH and if not pictures then descriptions of the Gear used to take the shot so in a way that detracts from your rational about security and posting pictures online,,,and you are more than Welcome to call me an Idiot as after Viet Nam I have no feelings and operate on Logic only,,,,However the Moderator is more than Welcome to Delete this thread....Thanks....
I guess I am an Idiot,,,my name and location are n... (show quote)


Virtually every Nikon owner on this forum advertise each piece of equipment they get and the expected delivery date.
I get the same grief over giving my address here but the house is internationally known with the address. There are tours through it and in the papers.
Yes we have a security system so if it goes off while we are home the police will be in time to collect the dead intruder and we never advertise going on a trip ever until we are back.

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Mar 10, 2018 17:56:37   #
Valsmere Loc: New Jersey
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
A couple shooters.


Ah YES! Another F100 shooter!!!!!!!

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Mar 10, 2018 18:06:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
leftj wrote:
Try stacking it.


Good idea, I will have to try that. Balance may be an issue along with possible scratches and scuffs when it all falls apart. But, what the check, you only live once right.

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Mar 10, 2018 18:34:35   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
tdekany wrote:
I think the chances of the OP attracting criminals due to this thread is slim. May I assume, that you don’t bank? Or live in a neighborhood? Don’t ever leave your home that is many miles away from the closest town? Don’t use a credit card? Make phone calls? Use the Internet for surfing? Just to name a few instances that can get you in trouble. But your point is well taken.


Thomas, I do all of those things, and I'm pretty easy to track down, but I do try not to advertise when I'm away from home, and I try not to post images that are clearly taken from my home with GPS coordinates. I don't keep a GPS in my/our vehicles, at least not visibly, but just in case the home location is programmed to be the local police station.

Even if the chances are small they still exist, and the last thing anybody wants is an intrusion by the bad guys. It happened to me without any assistance from the internet, just visibly packing bags into a vehicle. We don't do that anymore, but having your house ransacked is a painful experience. We watch over our neighbors, and they watch over us, but these things can happen very fast.

That said, thank you for appreciating my point, there is no reason to help the bad guys through lack of awareness. As Scott McNealy - CEO and founder of Sun Microsystems said, "You have no privacy, get over it!"

So many people have no idea of what they are sharing publicly on the internet that they wouldn't write on a sign board and post outside their house. From what I understand of your personal background you have good reason for not trusting the people that would look at anyone's information, being either state sponsored organizations or criminals.

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Mar 10, 2018 18:47:00   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
PeterBergh wrote:
Lying with statistics is so common that a book was published: Lying with statistics by Darrel Huff.

I don't believe in any statistics except, possibly, from people who don't have an ax to grind on that particular subject. Even people who don't have an ax to grind often make mistakes. (Having taught mathematical statistics in my misspent youth, I know that there are more than a few pitfalls.)

Particularly in the gun debate, both sides cook their statistics so that the statistics "support" their point. You can "prove" anything by cooking your statistics or your data.
Lying with statistics is so common that a book was... (show quote)


As someone who's degree says statistics on it, I hear what you are saying, and I definitely know how to lie with statistics, but it also 'takes a thief to catch a thief'. However, that being said, we should consider statistical studies and other evidence, especially if the data is available and not cast in politically oriented conclusions. Some statistical studies are seriously flawed, and some are very insightful.

Now, I'm not trying to turn this into a debate about gun ownership, I really don't want to go down that path, I have my opinions, but they are not relevant to a discussion about whether it is wise to publish your home location (intentionally or otherwise) and the fact that you are leaving for several days.

Can we stay on the topic please, and especially the danger that the OP may have unknowingly exposed himself to. UHH may be a relatively low risk site, but the same image posted somewhere else could be a very different kettle of fish.

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