In the future SLR cameras will be no value like film cameras and non electric automobiles we are not there yet
I think that you are missing the point. Mirrorless is much more than a pissing contest. Mirrorless is much simpler than SLR mechanically. It is also smaller and lighter as others have mentioned, but the main thing is "simpler mechanics" = "more reliable". There are fewer moving parts to break or adjust. Eventually we will see the mechanical shutter go by the wayside as well. We already see them in use for the higher speed shots on many cameras, many also offer a silent mode in their menus.
In yet another thread, we see many random replies with no reference to a specific post.
Here's some gentle advice. When replying to any comment made by a specific person, use the Quote Reply option instead of Reply. That way, we know which comment you are responding to, and can make sense of it.
Comments without context are often just meaningless.
alfeng
Loc: Out where the West commences ...
burkphoto wrote:
Mirrorless is now a word. It’s okay to drop the hyphen and the quotes.
There are many, many important reasons to use mirrorless cameras. They’ve all been mentioned here, before. Do a search.
My journey from film to digital, SLR to dSLR to mirrorless, spans 50 years, this coming August. 33 of those were spent working in nine different roles for three of the largest photography companies in the world (One “ate” the other “ate” the other over the years). I used every film format from 4x5 down to Minox, plus APS-C and full frame Canons and Nikons.
So, from that perspective, I have to say that the transition to mirrorless makes more sense *for some* than most folks realize until they try it. The advantages outweigh the disadvantages for me in most respects.
However, high end dSLRs still work better for sports action, birds in flight, and wildlife photography. The advantage does get slimmer as technology advances, however.
I made the switch to mirrorless because I had a specific set of needs that were best met with specific mirrorless equipment. Your situation may vary!
GAS is a problem unless you can afford it. If your current system does what needs to be done, keep it, use it, and have the courage to be confident in your choice.
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Gee ... Based on
your apparent attempt at pedantry with regard to the addition-or-lack of a
hypen then
I think that the majority of the users who have a DSLR should possibly classify-and-refer to their cameras as
point-and-shoot cameras
with-or-without-the-hypen UNLESS they are using a vintage, manual focus lens IF you are trying to eliminate extraneous descriptors ...
BTW. Clearly
(!?!), IMO, the OP was trying to make a point that some of the benefits of a true
mirrorless camera can be achieved with a person's current DSLR ...
Ergo, using/(
i.e., image viewing ...) a DSLR
sans mirror ... hence, his use of the hyphenated "mirror-less" instead of "mirrorless."
I own both sistems nikon cx and fx cameras and Sony dx and fx not the latest or the greatest, advantages Sonys are lighter on the dx Frame rates also Sony IQ it is a tie, now lens available ( not oem) goes to nikon, back to the weight at the most it's a pound difference, size with any telephoto lens its even so gents pick your weapons and happy shooting
Jim-Pops wrote:
I think mirror-less cameras are so over rated UNLESS you are taking video. OR If you are just starting to get into high end photography.
I think trading out your DSLR Canon or Nikon camera and lens gear for mirror-less is G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). It won't make you a better photographer.
Just sayin.
Well I don't shoot video on my Fuji XT1 but I do prefer it to my two Nikons D300/D7K. It reminds me of film - namely my FM & FM2 Nikons. I use virtually all my Nikon glass with the XT1 along with 4 Konica lenses and an Industar 55mm which is on the way. My initial reason for moving in this direction was weight. Now it is weight plus the ability to use so many great MF lenses via adapters. I get a great image/price ratio this way.
I was offered a near mint D810 today. Very tempting but $1600 for such a fantastic camera but it's too heavy for me. I won't be selling my Nikons as they are better at some things (surfing and wildlife) than the XT1 and I'm still attached to them having been a Nikon head for 50 year or so.
However I always have my Fuji with me.
In the end we are all "right" - it's just whatever turns you on most.
alfeng wrote:
Gee ... Based on
your apparent attempt at pedantry with regard to the addition-or-lack of a
hypen then
I think that the majority of the users who have a DSLR should possibly classify-and-refer to their cameras as
point-and-shoot cameras
with-or-without-the-hypen UNLESS they are using a vintage, manual focus lens IF you are trying to eliminate extraneous descriptors ...
BTW. Clearly
(!?!), IMO, the OP was trying to make a point that some of the benefits of a true
mirrorless camera can be achieved with a person's current DSLR ...
Ergo, using/(
i.e., image viewing ...) a DSLR
sans mirror ... hence, his use of the hyphenated "mirror-less" instead of "mirrorless."
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Yes, you certainly can get some of the benefits of mirrorless cameras if you lock up the mirror and use live view mode on a dSLR.
I don't think most people would call a dSLR mirrorless or mirror-less. [In my best South Cacalaky redneck voice:] "It has that flippy-flappy thang" in it that's irritated me since 1968. Lock it up for live view, and the AF system suffers. Lock it up, and you can't see the LCD screen very well in bright sun. Lock it up in a theatre, and you piss off the patrons beside you. And Hoodman? Meh.
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
tinplater wrote:
As just an enthusiast, I must say that switching from 40 years of Canon SLR's (started with Pellix 1972) I am having more fun with Sony system than I could have ever imagined. It is just a hobby, I was able to convert my Canon stuff to Sony without too large a financial hit (thank you Ebay and Craigs List) and the smaller size, optical quality have made it for me extremely worth while. Gave up on adapting my Canon glass to Sony because native lenses were superior. Learning new skills everyday, trying video, learning photoshop and lightroom, printing for my own enjoyment. Filling my retirement days with real joy and pleasure.
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I'm not sure that it is legal to enjoy photography that much during retirement while the rest of us are working hard and shooting when we can. You had better reread that fine print under "Retirement".
Jim-Pops wrote:
I think mirror-less cameras are so over rated UNLESS you are taking video. OR If you are just starting to get into high end photography.
I think trading out your DSLR Canon or Nikon camera and lens gear for mirror-less is G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). It won't make you a better photographer.
Just sayin.
Mirrors are rapidly becoming a costly impediment to improved photography technology. Compare the IQ, high ISO performance, FPS, eye autofocus, and cost of the A7iii with any comparable DSLR. Cameras are tools. Better tools make it easier to achieve your objective. The number of professional photographers switching form DSLRs to mirrorless is probably 10 to 20 time the number switching the other direction.
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