crazydaddio wrote:
I can turn on my dslr, pull it to my face, exposure triangle tweaks and fire in less than 3 seconds in manual mode.
Any mirrorless I have tried will still be turning on as the intended photo target has moved on..
The innovation is warp speed at this point. My a6300 would probably be 8 seconds FOR ME in your scenerio but my a7riii closer to 4. I could never go back from an evf personally. The ability to preview a given shot in near pitch black darkness on up to a 30 exposure still boggles my mind. I find my hitrate for low light keepers is basically 100%.
Wonder if, like Pentax who just announced the K-1ii, Sony will offer to upgrade the A7ii for those who recently bought it? Or if it is even possible for it to be done.
For $550, Pentax will upgrade the K-1 including even changing the camera label to K1ii.Say what you will, but this is customer loyalty
blackest wrote:
Sony has launched the new Sony A7 Mark III today, It is looking rather nice and may be bad news for m43.
In general, all the R&D money is going into Mirrorless so why the hell are people in shock, awe, amazed? I have a DSLR and unless they make some startling changes over the next year or so, I'll move in a heart beat. I only wish I will be able take my expensive L lenses with it.
When people say which camera etc should I buy, my answer is mirrorless.
Does anyone know if Nikon FF AF-S lens can be adapted to the E mount for the A7 iii? Manual only? AE ? AF?
pithydoug wrote:
In general, all the R&D money is going into Mirrorless so why the hell are people in shock, awe, amazed? I have a DSLR and unless they make some startling changes over the next year or so, I'll move in a heart beat. I only wish I will be able take my expensive L lenses with it.
When people say which camera etc should I buy, my answer is mirrorless.
Adapt those L lenses first before deciding to sell them.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
blackest wrote:
Depends how much do you like an optical viewfinder? It's going to be pretty interesting to see how things go this year, will it adapt Canon and Nikon lenses?
After shooting with the small Sony - I have no issues with an EVF - in fact, I like seeing the results of my exposure adjustments and the histogram BEFORE I take the picture. From what I have seen, adapted lenses can be problematic when it comes to AF performance. This is likely to change.
Looks like a really interesting camera, though.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
blackest wrote:
Sony has launched the new Sony A7 Mark III today, It is looking rather nice and may be bad news for m43.
I am sure it will make an excellent camera. Just a interesting note, whenever I suggest a new product UHH puts my posts in a different sub set. When ever others do the same thing, they put them here, interesting.
billnikon wrote:
I am sure it will make an excellent camera. Just a interesting note, whenever I suggest a new product UHH puts my posts in a different sub set. When ever others do the same thing, they put them here, interesting.
don't put the link in the first post...
I think an enormous number of us would buy this camera if 1: It performs as advertised, & 2: If we could convert our high quality lenses from other manufacturers to work flawlessly on it. "1" above is likely, "2", not so much.
Quantus5 wrote:
$2K folks.
A9 autofocus (693 phase-detection points, and 425 contrast points). 10 fps. Silent shooting. Uses the Z-battery, which is the larger battery that the A9 uses. Dual SD slot. Joystick.
Incredible...
I always get a good chuckle these days -- because several Canon fans told me about 1.5 years ago that autofocus on a mirrorless would never be as fast as on a DSLR, and that professional photographers only used Canon or Nikon. Yeah, right. :-)
Other than nameless drones at sporting events, I don't know many professionals still shooting Canikon. So many pros have migrated to Sony.
This new a7-series body stays true to the original three, doing all the a7Riii does -- but at a lower res. Now Sony has three all-rounders counting the a7iii, a7Riii, and a9 -- and makes me wonder what Sony will do for an encore. I know an Siii is still due, but these are so good in low light and with video that I wonder if an Siii will offer any real innovation.
With Sony's: unsurpassed image quality; batteries lasting 600-700 shots; tough, weather-sealed bodies; excellent lens options including Sony alone's average of four new quality FE-mount lenses per year (now covering most every angle & speed), quality third-party choices including the first 3rd-party FE-mount zoom (Tamron's 28-75mm f/2.8), Tokina's first FE-mount, dozens of other 3rd-party primes, and Sigma's just-announced eight Art lenses, plus adapters to use other lenses (all this destroys the tired old rhetoric about "not enough lenses"); and Sony's customer-centric Pro Support -- I wonder what Sony haters will come up with next.
Oh, there's Sony's menus. Sony bodies are highly customizable, so the menus are extensive, but now they're pretty well organized. And with the fn button mini-menu plus the user-defined, custom sub-menu, I don't see a problem there, either.
bedouin wrote:
Wonder if, like Pentax who just announced the K-1ii, Sony will offer to upgrade the A7ii for those who recently bought it? Or if it is even possible for it to be done.
For $550, Pentax will upgrade the K-1 including even changing the camera label to K1ii.Say what you will, but this is customer loyalty
Alas, not possible. Too many changes besides the sensor & processor.
crazydaddio wrote:
Specs and features blow away dslrs at equivalent price points. Battery life, EVF vs OVFs lens selections and "boot times" still make me hesitant. I think I need to rent one and take a week off to play with it to make a final judgement.
I can turn on my dslr, pull it to my face, exposure triangle tweaks and fire in less than 3 seconds in manual mode.
Any mirrorless I have tried will still be turning on as the intended photo target has moved on...
Its a narrow determination factor but in a real world shooting environment (street, action, some wildlife situations) it does matter.
....must say, impressive specs on Sony mirrorless options. If they can solve my issues, i would make the jump. They are reaallly close...
I hear the EVF issues are all but resolved (primarily lag). I would never buy a body that did not have a viewfinder as 90% of my shots are via viewfinder.
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The boot time is not an issue. When I'm out with my camera, I let it sleep after a minute to save battery life, then with a single press of the shutter button it is instantly ready to shoot with all my last settings, as if it had never slept.
You can shoot 8fps without lag or 10fps blind. Few DSLRs even shoot that fast, but don't those that do have mirror lock-up that blinds the shooter?
The EVF was good before, but outstanding now - to the point that an OVF is a handicap.
chrisg-optical wrote:
The A7 iii looks impressive ... i will wait a bit , my "antique" D7200 still serves me well. ... meanwhile technology marches on and will see what happens this year.
The D7200 is an excellent camera. My nephew shoots with one, and on an astro shoot last year (where I was teaching him) he out-shot me and my a7R.
Desert Gecko wrote:
The D7200 is an excellent camera. My nephew shoots with one, and on an astro shoot last year (where I was teaching him) he out-shot me and my a7R.
Was it more of a factor of the lenses used, or was it an image sensor difference?
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