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Feb 21, 2018 08:41:33   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
colin64 wrote:
Took this shot with my nikon 20mm 1.8 and as much as l like the photo what my eyes could see was the village of bowmore in some detail, but with the wide angle pushing everthing into the distance its pretty much lost.
I know 20mm is not to wide and there great for some shots ie beach shots with boulders in foreground , but i'm slowly going of this lens.
What's your thoughts on wide angle lenses.


I love wide angles. They are great for street photography too. In street shooting, it is just a matter of getting up close and personal with your subject matter. For scenics, it is sometimes nice to get very low for a new perspective. The two attached snaps (20mm) were made in this manner. Stay with it. I think you will enjoy your wide angle.

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Feb 21, 2018 08:45:53   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Peterff wrote:
Send me a case of Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Bowmore, or any other Islay malt and I'll tell you!

20mm is pretty wide on a full frame, but is best for creative shots as you say. It's a nice sunset image, but for detail a different lens, perhaps a panorama would get the effect you want.

Personally I love wide lenses, but every lens has its place. I was very glad to have a 20mm in the Hebrides.

I seldom take my cameras anywhere without a 20mm (APS-C equivalent) or wider.



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Feb 21, 2018 08:58:16   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
colin64 wrote:
Took this shot with my nikon 20mm 1.8 and as much as l like the photo what my eyes could see was the village of bowmore in some detail, but with the wide angle pushing everthing into the distance its pretty much lost.
I know 20mm is not to wide and there great for some shots ie beach shots with boulders in foreground , but i'm slowly going of this lens.
What's your thoughts on wide angle lenses.


There are shots that are made for a wide angle and shots that are best made with a different lens. I wouldn't want to be without my 10-22mm super wide angle.

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Feb 21, 2018 08:59:37   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I prefer W/A to tele, depending on the situation, of course. A wide angle lens takes in so much more, but of course, it makes things look smaller and farther away. That's the trade-off. I usually find myself wanting to get in more of the scene rather than trying to zoom in to something in the distance. It really depends on the specific shot you want. When I'm working on my car, I often use a wrench, but I sometimes use a screwdriver.


I often resort to a hammer and a crowbar.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:07:47   #
dyximan
 
colin64 wrote:
Yip, that day l had also my sigma art 24-105 and my nikon 70-200 f4 with me, perhaps the sigma at 50 60mm 2 or 3 shots pano portrait mode would have done better.
One must think more about what l want to get from a photo, rather than blame the lens.
But as you all know, your there, the scene is there, you make your decision, then hours later you realise in front of the pc that you could have done better.
Still thinking to bump the wide one 😕

It’s obvious you have a fair idea of how to use your lenses just perhaps a different choice or use forthe wide-angle. You can use your telephoto on the same subject and see what you like but it’s obvious the shot is not for you so just don’t do it again. But I’m sure you’re not going to you altogether stop the wide-angle. But I’ve encountered the same experience while shooting a restaurant at the end of the pier with a 10 to 14 mm the restaurant looks like a spec. But would have definitely liked a wide-angle while shooting in some of the homes and interiors of buildings I’ve been not only for the wide-angle but the lowlight aspect.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:12:05   #
Ira
 
Your shot looks beautiful!

DXO rates the Nikon Nikkor 24mm F/1.8 G the sharper of all the Nikon F1.8 wides.

https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-24mm-F18G-ED-on-Nikon-D810-versus-Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-20mm-F18-G-ED-on-Nikon-D810-versus-Nikon-AF-S-Nikkor-28mm-F18G-on-Nikon-D810__1584_963_1406_963_952_963

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Feb 21, 2018 09:32:19   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I think you're on to something. When I started out in digital all of the experts said to go as wide as possible when shooting landscapes. With the internet, the experts come into your computer. I was often disappointed with my wide angle landscapes. Yes, there were amazing vistas, but the mountains became molehills and the molehill in the foreground looked like a mountain. I stopped listening to the "experts" and started using the focal length I thought made the best photo composition. I still shoot at 18mm but I also shoot at 300mm (and all the focal lengths in between), depending upon what I'm attempting to achieve in my photo.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:36:23   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
catchlight.. wrote:
Never buy a wide angle lens to "get it all in".

A wide angle is used to enhance perspective. This is a common beginners mistake. read this interesting article that is one of many :)

https://www.digitalphotomentor.com/5-mistakes-beginners-make-using-a-wide-angle-lens-and-how-to-avoid-them/


Great article. Can't believe I haven't run across it in the past. I have it bookmarked for future reference.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:45:59   #
RolandDieter
 
The sun and the tree are both perfectly located in this shot. That would not be the case with less angle. The shot would not be as interesting if the tree were not included or if the sun was too far to the right.

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Feb 21, 2018 09:51:06   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
colin64 wrote:
Took this shot with my nikon 20mm 1.8 and as much as l like the photo what my eyes could see was the village of bowmore in some detail, but with the wide angle pushing everthing into the distance its pretty much lost.
I know 20mm is not to wide and there great for some shots ie beach shots with boulders in foreground , but i'm slowly going of this lens.
What's your thoughts on wide angle lenses.


Unfortunately as good as the image is it doesn't seem to be what you wanted, perhaps you should carry two cameras set up, that shot that you are showing is too good to pass up, but you have aroused my curiosity, there is a village there?

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Feb 21, 2018 10:31:09   #
nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida
 
colin64 wrote:
Took this shot with my nikon 20mm 1.8 and as much as l like the photo what my eyes could see was the village of bowmore in some detail, but with the wide angle pushing everthing into the distance its pretty much lost.
I know 20mm is not to wide and there great for some shots ie beach shots with boulders in foreground , but i'm slowly going of this lens.
What's your thoughts on wide angle lenses.







I just bought a 14 - 24 2.8 nikkor and Love it . That being said I live in Florida and do lots of sunrises and sunsets , and large panos . But like you you sometimes wish you could see more detail . So when an associate of mine suggested a gigapan I was all in . It is a rig that houses your camera and mount a 200 or 300 mm whatever you have then camera is hooked up to the onboard cpu now the giga controls your camera . You define the area you want to shoot and it takes over it now knows your lens camera combo and calculates all overlaps and brackets if you you want to do HDR . Hit go and it will shoot all frames in a desired area . Can be in the hundreds the program stitches them together and creates a hundreds plus image with amazing detail ...check it out.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:41:05   #
ballsafire Loc: Lafayette, Louisiana
 

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Feb 21, 2018 10:42:31   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
They are specialized tools , hard to use effectively, that meant to bring width to short to medium distance shots, or in close quarters, and over-used as a landscape tool for the reasons you noted in your post. They can bring some drama to a dull scene, overemphasizing nearby elements for artistic impact - but at this point it's become quite the cliché.

When I need width, I use a 45mm PC-E, 85mm PC-E, a 24-70, or an 80-200 for really wide distant views, in portrait mode, and I stitch together a few images to get what I want in the image. Front to back proportions are more "normal" - hard to detect any extension distortion that is common to very wide and ultra wide lenses.

I can spot an amateur in a NY minute when the ask which is the best ultrawide for landscape. I often respond with "none!" and they get totally confused. Or angry.

Here is a shot that I took at 46.41mm with a camera that has a 2.73 crop factor, so the effective field of view was equivalent to a 126.7mm lens. I had taken this at 8.8mm (similar to a 24mm lens) and the image had too much sky and foreground, and the important stuff - the medieval ruins in the middle-left of the image were tiny. The width of this image was actually wider than the 24mm view, and there was no need to crop sky and foreground. The dimensions of this are 10521x5721 px - consisting of 5 overlapping shots. The camera's native single shot resolution is 5472x3648. I used a Sony RX10M4, and edited the images in Capture One Pro 11
They are specialized tools , hard to use effective... (show quote)


Glad you chimed in - addresses exactly the issue the OP is having.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:45:55   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
catchlight.. wrote:
Never buy a wide angle lens to "get it all in".

A wide angle is used to enhance perspective. This is a common beginners mistake. read this interesting article that is one of many :)

https://www.digitalphotomentor.com/5-mistakes-beginners-make-using-a-wide-angle-lens-and-how-to-avoid-them/


There are certainly situations where you do have to use a wide angle to "get it all in". The best example is interiors. Or any time you need to get the subject entirely in the photo, but you can't get back any further.

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Feb 21, 2018 10:46:42   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Peterff wrote:
Send me a case of Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Bowmore, or any other Islay malt and I'll tell you!

20mm is pretty wide on a full frame, but is best for creative shots as you say. It's a nice sunset image, but for detail a different lens, perhaps a panorama would get the effect you want.

Personally I love wide lenses, but every lens has its place. I was very glad to have a 20mm in the Hebrides.

I seldom take my cameras anywhere without a 20mm (APS-C equivalent) or wider.


Not as good as The Macallan.

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