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Feb 15, 2018 12:48:27   #
BebuLamar
 
wwjd38 wrote:
The first photos I sent to my instructor were in full automatic. After that she said to use only manual, so from that point on I have only used manual. It took me awhile to learn how to get the correct ISO, F-Stop/Aperture, and shutter speed working together on different subjects, but I have to say, I am still learning.


Thank you!

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Feb 15, 2018 13:22:00   #
JMCPHD Loc: Maine
 
I think it is much easier to learn to shoot manual now that we have immediate feedback with a digital camera. In the past I would have to wait till I finished the roll and got it processed and to really learn I would need notes on what settings I had used.

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Feb 15, 2018 16:45:03   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
First camera was automatic in the sense that there was no adjustment possible (brownie knockoff). First three were manual only, Argus C3, Canon FL-QL and Pentax K-1000. Took about 3 or 4 rolls of slide film to learn.

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Feb 15, 2018 18:51:15   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
fuminous wrote:
Like others here, "manual" was the only option- but my method might have been called, "shutter priority". I'd set the shutter speed- "ASA" was never changed unless the film was- and with a bit of dexterity, focus, compose and spin the aperture ring to match the exposure needle in the viewfinder... then trip the shutter. That's "shutter priority" isn't it? Don't recall ever turning the shutter knob- while looking through the viewfinder- to match the meter to aperture. If the aperture wasn't sufficient, then I'd drop the shutter speed two stops and try again. Didn't take long to learn... 'bout two rolls of bad exposures and I caught on pretty quick...
Like others here, "manual" was the only ... (show quote)


...pretty much like you. Got my first SLR in 'Nam and figured it out fairly quickly. Lots of bland slides later...lol...

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Feb 15, 2018 21:17:38   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
wwjd38 wrote:
The first photos I sent to my instructor were in full automatic. After that she said to use only manual, so from that point on I have only used manual. It took me awhile to learn how to get the correct ISO, F-Stop/Aperture, and shutter speed working together on different subjects, but I have to say, I am still learning.


Learning manual is a very good thing to do, but modern cameras do very well in the various automated modes, shutter priority, aperture priority, auto ISO, which are good to learn also. They are faster to use than full manual in most cases, and can enable capturing an image that would be missed with manual. All of these modes are worth learning and understanding in the hope that the photographer can make better decisions than the camera, no matter how sophisticated.

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Feb 15, 2018 21:31:51   #
BebuLamar
 
Thank you for all the replies. Assuming that one would want to know how to use all the modes available on the camera. My thought was that it would be faster overall if one starts with manual then learn the other auto modes later rather than starting with an auto mode then learn the manual mode last. Still I am not sure if I am right or wrong because most of the responses are from those who started with manual mode. I think we only have a couple of responses from people who started with auto.

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Feb 15, 2018 21:38:39   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Thank you for all the replies. Assuming that one would want to know how to use all the modes available on the camera. My thought was that it would be faster overall if one starts with manual then learn the other auto modes later rather than starting with an auto mode then learn the manual mode last. Still I am not sure if I am right or wrong because most of the responses are from those who started with manual mode. I think we only have a couple of responses from people who started with auto.


It is also important to remember that different people learn in different ways, as Will Rogers is oft quoted: “There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”

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Feb 15, 2018 23:41:08   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Among the UHH members who started out using manual mode either by choice or because that was the only mode that was available at the time. How long did it take you to learn how to use it?
Among those who started out with one of the auto mode (full Auto, P, A or S) how long did it take you to learn how to use the camera in manual?
I am not Chris T but I can still ask survey question can I?


2 days with my tlr rolliechord

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Feb 16, 2018 19:48:51   #
LeeK Loc: Washington State
 
I feel I'm still learning about my camera (Nikons - D3100 and D5300). I always shot auto until about 2 years ago. I then took some classes. Both were beginning classes to learn manual. It wasn't until the 2nd class did I start to feel comfortable with the manual. I also use A and S but almost always M. I do feel there's still a lot for me to learn in general.

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Feb 16, 2018 20:05:22   #
BebuLamar
 
LeeK wrote:
I feel I'm still learning about my camera (Nikons - D3100 and D5300). I always shot auto until about 2 years ago. I then took some classes. Both were beginning classes to learn manual. It wasn't until the 2nd class did I start to feel comfortable with the manual. I also use A and S but almost always M. I do feel there's still a lot for me to learn in general.


Thank you.

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Feb 17, 2018 12:22:06   #
Toad Rancher Loc: Central PA Mts.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Among the UHH members who started out using manual mode either by choice or because that was the only mode that was available at the time. How long did it take you to learn how to use it?
Among those who started out with one of the auto mode (full Auto, P, A or S) how long did it take you to learn how to use the camera in manual?
I am not Chris T but I can still ask survey question can I?


I started with an Agfa Viking f6.3 that was given to my family in 1958 by a great aunt. It was about 20 years old at the time and had no meter and no rangefinder but we did get a beginners manual with it. After studying the manual it took me one foll of film to learn to use it which is not to say that I had learned to make photographs. I still have the camera.

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Feb 17, 2018 13:13:32   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Among the UHH members who started out using manual mode either by choice or because that was the only mode that was available at the time. How long did it take you to learn how to use it?
Among those who started out with one of the auto mode (full Auto, P, A or S) how long did it take you to learn how to use the camera in manual?
I am not Chris T but I can still ask survey question can I?

My first adjustable camera was a rangefinder Yashica Minister III with a built-in light meter. The meter gave me an EV reading which I set on a ring on the lens. Based on that EV setting, another ring set shutter speed / aperture which were tied together by that EV setting .... so I didn't have a choice - you can view this anyway you want to, but I needed to be engaged enough to set EV, and beyond that it was shutter priority or aperture priority depending on which part of the ring I was focused on.

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Feb 17, 2018 13:18:44   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
My first adjustable camera was a rangefinder Yashica Minister III with a built-in light meter. The meter gave me an EV reading which I set on a ring on the lens. Based on that EV setting, another ring set shutter speed / aperture which were tied together by that EV setting .... so I didn't have a choice - you can view this anyway you want to, but I needed to be engaged enough to set EV, and beyond that it was shutter priority or aperture priority depending on which part of the ring I was focused on.
My first adjustable camera was a rangefinder Yashi... (show quote)


I would like to quote your post in another thread about the exposure triangle.

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Feb 27, 2018 16:21:02   #
ez22 Loc: The World
 
Since I started with film in the '60s and the cameras didn't have any bells and whistles, you had no choice in the matter, as far as the cameras I used. When the 35mm cameras started having some auto features, I wasn't interested. Now with the Canon 5Ds and all the auto functions, I still use manual even though I'm paying for the bells and whistles, but never expect to use them. Manual is for the control freaks, like me 🤗

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Feb 27, 2018 22:16:30   #
btbg
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Among the UHH members who started out using manual mode either by choice or because that was the only mode that was available at the time. How long did it take you to learn how to use it?
Among those who started out with one of the auto mode (full Auto, P, A or S) how long did it take you to learn how to use the camera in manual?
I am not Chris T but I can still ask survey question can I?


I think I was seven at the time. Manual was all there was. I bought a used kodak camera at a yard sale for a dime. Don't remember the model. Pulled weeds in my grandmother's yard to buy a roll of film. The box had a set of pictures with baseline settings for different light settings. First roll of film was fine. It was shot in direct sunlight with the sunny 16 rule. Took three or four rolls to get the exposures right for cloudy, or for dusk.

The camera really didn't have the capability to shoot at night without a tripod so didn't even try No problem with exposure since then. Moved up to an slr in junior high and although it was manual it had an exposure meter with a needle that lined up when the camera said that the exposure was correct. Most of the time it was pretty close. Once again three or four rolls to figure out when the light meter needed some adjustments.

Shooting in manual really isn't that tough and it should be even easier now since you can go back and look at the image on your screen and at least see if the exposure is close to right or not, so you get instant feedback instead of having to wait two or three weeks to get enough weeds pulled to pay for the processing and then another week for the roll of film to come back.

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