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Why Would Anyone Buy A Cropped Sensor, Over A Full Framed Camera?
Feb 16, 2018 10:36:31 #
David in Dallas wrote:
Me too. This thread ended up having more legs than a centipede.😉I can't believe this topic has gone to 18 pages.
Feb 16, 2018 10:39:07 #
Feiertag wrote:
Me too. This thread ended up having more legs than a centipede.😉
An open ended question with thousands of UHH members, why would you be surprised? Everyone can't have an opinion on the subject?
Feb 16, 2018 10:43:17 #
Relax, it was my opinion on the comment made by David in Dallas.
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Feb 16, 2018 10:49:02 #
Feiertag wrote:
Relax, it was my opinion on the comment made by David in Dallas.
Not upset, sorry if it came across that way. If I'm correct, you are the original poster. Opinion questions can be fun, and sometimes avoid the rabbit hole of trolls and hijackers...(thank goodness)
I'm just stating that so far, over 11,000 people have read the topic, so it doesn't make sense for anyone to be surprised when asking for opinions, that there are a lot of them... 11,000 people will all probably have 11,000 slightly different thoughts on the matter.
Your topic made people think, which is always a good thing.
Feb 16, 2018 10:57:15 #
bkyser wrote:
Not upset, sorry if it came across that way. If ... (show quote)
You bet, bkyser. It's all good. Cheers.
Feb 16, 2018 11:06:48 #
I would imagine that most people could not tell the difference between photos taken with a FF and a cropped. If you are a professional you might be able to tell.
Feb 16, 2018 11:16:23 #
rbmartiniv wrote:
I would imagine that most people could not tell the difference between photos taken with a FF and a cropped. If you are a professional you might be able to tell.
I bet they couldn't unless it was in very specific conditions. I've seen tests where everyone from people on the street to pros couldn't tell the difference on an 8x10 print from a point and shoot and a high end DSLR.
People can get upset with me if they want, but once it's on paper with no metadata, a good sharp photo, is a good sharp photo, and you won't be able to tell what "flavor" camera took it.
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Feb 16, 2018 11:20:56 #
bkyser wrote:
I bet they couldn't unless it was in very specific conditions. I've seen tests where everyone from people on the street to pros couldn't tell the difference on an 8x10 print from a point and shoot and a high end DSLR.
People can get upset with me if they want, but once it's on paper with no metadata, a good sharp photo, is a good sharp photo, and you won't be able to tell what "flavor" camera took it.
People can get upset with me if they want, but once it's on paper with no metadata, a good sharp photo, is a good sharp photo, and you won't be able to tell what "flavor" camera took it.
Well said!
Feb 16, 2018 11:34:18 #
You are correct, especially on a backlit screen. What seems lost on most is that there are some crop sensors out there with better overall IQ than some of the FF sensors out there and visa versa. Today's sensors, even those minuscule phone sensors, capture fantastic images. I believe the FF vs crop sensor choice is about more than just IQ. For me it's also about a wider creative palette.
rbmartiniv wrote:
I would imagine that most people could not tell the difference between photos taken with a FF and a cropped. If you are a professional you might be able to tell.
Feb 16, 2018 11:35:43 #
rbmartiniv wrote:
I would imagine that most people could not tell the difference between photos taken with a FF and a cropped. If you are a professional you might be able to tell.
especially given that you can have f.95 lenses on a crop sensor...so the DOF argument get's tossed out the window.
Feb 16, 2018 11:41:13 #
Actually you are incorrect. There is much more to DoF than lens aperture and the physical size of the sensor matters greatly. This stuff is so easy to look up, but here is a bit of information you may want to check out... https://fstoppers.com/education/smaller-sensor-size-shallower-your-depth-field-110547
Cdouthitt wrote:
especially given that you can have f.95 lenses on a crop sensor...so the DOF argument get's tossed out the window.
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Feb 16, 2018 11:44:11 #
IGBTQ2 wrote:
Actually you are incorrect. There is much more to DoF than lens aperture and the physical size of the sensor matters greatly. This stuff is so easy to look up, but here is a bit of information you may want to check out... https://fstoppers.com/education/smaller-sensor-size-shallower-your-depth-field-110547
I know more about this than you think...thanks for the link.
Feb 16, 2018 11:49:41 #
Regardless of what you know, your statement remains incorrect.
Cdouthitt wrote:
I know more about this than you think...thanks for the link.
Feb 16, 2018 12:11:50 #
rbmartiniv wrote:
I would imagine that most people could not tell the difference between photos taken with a FF and a cropped. If you are a professional you might be able to tell.
As was said, it depends on the conditions.i guarantee that you could see the difference if both were taken in available light at ISO 12,800.
Feb 16, 2018 12:17:03 #
IGBTQ2 wrote:
Regardless of what you know, your statement remains incorrect.
My original statement wasn't complete... I was talking about being able to tell the difference when taking a photo with an f2.8 FF lens and then a photo with a much faster lens, like an f.95 on a crop sensor and making them look the same. It's much easier now to trick someone into thinking that the original shot was shot using FF, when in actuality it was taken with a crop sensor and crazy fast glass, and one can supplement it even further with a little post processing help.
The differences in DOF between crop and FF are becoming less of an argument IMHO...
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