chrissybabe wrote:
Every now and again you read about various countries that have really high level of bureaucracy and you wonder at the level of muddied official thinking that has gone into deciding that such a system has got something good going for it. Often you think that the only reason why something so bizarre can happen is because it can ie the population "lets" it. You Americans have just moved to the stop of the list for idiocy in how to make life difficult for yourselves. If you let this continue America will never be "great" again. It is time for the United States to become "United" again and work out a system that has a more rational base for taxation. In your effort to have "free speech" and the "right to chose" you have created a monster system that will prevent you from ever becoming the nation you could be.
You will now become a nation of tax cheats all-be-it inadvertent ones. This system of taxing has so many places now where it can fail despite your best intentions that it has become unmanageable and unwieldy and makes felons of you all.
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The U.S. is a nation made up of 50 individual states, bound by a written constitution. We're only united in some instances, disjointed and independent in others. We, for the most part, are free to determine our life choices. We also, by and large, obey tax laws, albeit by coercion in some instances, and entirely voluntarily in others. People who own their homes without a mortgage, voluntarily pay property taxes every year, and at a very high rate of compliance.
Sales taxes, rather than have individuals file individual returns, use retailers as central collection points, much more effective. The question of compliance has been an open issue for years, and our U.S. Supreme Court will probably address the compliance across states in the near future.
The several states have great political freedom. We decide who our representatives are at every political level, and we seldom see eye-to-eye on a host of issues, taxation being high on the list of push button issues. As has been mentioned in previous posts, political animals gain power by staying in office and promising favors and privileges to those who vote for them. By the way, this is not just a way of politics in the U.S., nor is it new. The Greeks, Persians, Romans, French, British, and many others all use the same system of spoils for political gain. It's been going on for thousands of years, so there's nothing new about political corruption.
If you're English, you have no guarantee of individual rights, save those allowed by Parliament. In fact democracy is merely mob rule, which never protects the rights of the minority. The moment something doesn't suit a vocal group, you can the existing government structure. Our protection of property, privacy, due process, free speech, among other rights are not only innate, but they're further enumerated in our Constitution. In recent years, your House of Commons gutted the power of the House of Lords. Try doing that here, and there would be a literal uprising. We put ourselves in front of the rest of the world, for good or bad, and I wouldn't trade it for any other form of government.
Yes, we have individuals who don't completely abide by tax laws; no country has 100% compliance with its tax laws. We have laws in place for those instances, and it's up to the government unit to collect and/or punish those who don't comply. Tax laws are passed knowing there will be a certain amount of noncompliance. And only the most egregious will become felons. In fact, tax compliance is mostly a civil, not criminal matter in the U.S, and we have an amazingly high level of compliance with our tax laws at all levels of government.
You're observing, in this thread, a very small microcosm of tax (non)compliance. Don't confuse this discussion with the overall compliance of American citizens.