Hunting: is this model film slr really really good?
Jan 31, 2018 10:32:13 #
Jan 31, 2018 10:32:52 #
bellgamin wrote:
I have the Canon EOS Rebel K2 SLR film camera in m... (show quote)
1- no, not particularly.
Jan 31, 2018 10:42:49 #
Unfamiliar with it but I do have and still use a Canon AE-1 Program I purchased new in the 80s. It performs exceptionally well and has great pictures. Just needs a drop of oil every 6-7 years. Good luck and think you can still enjoy film. However, I also own and use dslrs and high level pocket cameras. The AE-1 is a joy though.
Jan 31, 2018 10:52:13 #
regularguy55 wrote:
Unfamiliar with it but I do have and still use a Canon AE-1 Program I purchased new in the 80s. It performs exceptionally well and has great pictures. Just needs a drop of oil every 6-7 years. Good luck and think you can still enjoy film. However, I also own and use dslrs and high level pocket cameras. The AE-1 is a joy though.
Very solid body. I had two AE1-Ps for about 35 years that we’re used when I purchased them. Both were still working fine when I sold them last year.
Jan 31, 2018 11:16:03 #
Jan 31, 2018 11:21:44 #
JennT wrote:
Seriously considering a camera with a focusing motor---
No Canon camera have focusing motor. All Canon autofocus lenses have motor built in the lens. Any way the OP no longer responded. I guess when he/she found out that the Rebel K2 isn't a "Really Really Good Camera" the OP got disappointed.
Jan 31, 2018 11:49:53 #
TriX wrote:
Very solid body. I had two AE1-Ps for about 35 years that we’re used when I purchased them. Both were still working fine when I sold them last year.
Second that. AE-1 Program was a fine, mass-market SLR. In the hands of a knowledgeable photographer who understands the limits of automation, and how to take best advantage of it, it's great.
In the hands of the average, untrained, impatient, 1980s high school yearbook photographer, it was one of the worst things that ever happened to that industry! I was teaching at yearbook workshops in the early 1980s. The sudden surrender to, and blind reliance upon automation, was a challenge to educate around.
Actually, it still is...
We had better luck teaching the kids with Pentax K1000s, which were completely manual.
Jan 31, 2018 11:53:09 #
bellgamin wrote:
I have the Canon EOS Rebel K2 SLR film camera in m... (show quote)
It was a ahh ok camera in its days, like the digital Rebels are these days! (a beginners camera)!
Jan 31, 2018 12:09:43 #
Mr. Burkholder: Very good point about the Canon AE-1 Program which I got for my son, who then just set it on Program and ignored what I tried to teach him about f/stops & shutter speeds.
I should have gotten him the best-seller Canon AE-1 without that Program mode! And, yes, the
Pentax K1000 in those days was a good manual choice and the local college urged their photo class students to buy them.
I should have gotten him the best-seller Canon AE-1 without that Program mode! And, yes, the
Pentax K1000 in those days was a good manual choice and the local college urged their photo class students to buy them.
Jan 31, 2018 12:19:32 #
burkphoto wrote:
Second that. AE-1 Program was a fine, mass-market ... (show quote)
One thing I don't like about the AE-1, AE-1P and A-1 is that when in manual mode you have to look in the viewfinder to find out which aperture the meter suggests and then put the camera down and set the aperture on the lens. There is a reason that Canon calls it "Manual override" and not "Manual".
Jan 31, 2018 12:22:42 #
One general thought to consider is that the camera body is just the box that captures and stores the image. The LENS is the critical factor. I know one pro who has moved up the DSLR scale as needed, but kept the same very good lenses. Buying the most expensive body and a mediocre lens is not as good as buying a starter camera body (which may be fine for what you do) and getting a really decent lens.
Jan 31, 2018 12:28:23 #
radiojohn wrote:
One general thought to consider is that the camera body is just the box that captures and stores the image. The LENS is the critical factor. I know one pro who has moved up the DSLR scale as needed, but kept the same very good lenses. Buying the most expensive body and a mediocre lens is not as good as buying a starter camera body (which may be fine for what you do) and getting a really decent lens.
Exactly. Getting a $75 lens with a $25 camera is a better play than $75 for a camera (especially film) and a lower quality lens for $25. And, an EF lens that can be shared interchangeably between EOS film and digital cameras presents certain longer term options than manual focus lenses.
Jan 31, 2018 12:37:53 #
Not mentioned in this thread so far is Canon's EOS A2E U. S. model, and EOS 5QD for Europe, virtually the same thing, allegedly Canon's most sold film camera of all time. It preceded the EOS 3 and while the 3 was supposed to be a step up, the A2E had eye focus control and shot 10 fps. They are plentiful on ebay and one can be bought for considerably less than the 3 or 1(n)(v)(whatever). My choice of consumer level short zooms is the 35-70 first, 28-90 next, and 28-80 last.
There is a design defect in the A2E in the mode dial. There is a release button and if it isn't pressed prior to turning the dial it will strip the dial gears, which takes almost no effort, and that has happened 1,000s of times and cost about $75 to get it fixed but there is a simple DIY fix that costs virtually nothing and can be found in video on YouTube.com. I prefer the EOS 5QD. I moved from Canon AE-1p to an A-1 then to the A2E, quite a step up. As a hobbyist, I never saw any reason to use any other Canon film camera like the 3 or 1 series. The Elan series was a notch under the A2 and A2E.
There is a design defect in the A2E in the mode dial. There is a release button and if it isn't pressed prior to turning the dial it will strip the dial gears, which takes almost no effort, and that has happened 1,000s of times and cost about $75 to get it fixed but there is a simple DIY fix that costs virtually nothing and can be found in video on YouTube.com. I prefer the EOS 5QD. I moved from Canon AE-1p to an A-1 then to the A2E, quite a step up. As a hobbyist, I never saw any reason to use any other Canon film camera like the 3 or 1 series. The Elan series was a notch under the A2 and A2E.
Jan 31, 2018 13:17:34 #
radiojohn wrote:
One general thought to consider is that the camera body is just the box that captures and stores the image. The LENS is the critical factor. I know one pro who has moved up the DSLR scale as needed, but kept the same very good lenses. Buying the most expensive body and a mediocre lens is not as good as buying a starter camera body (which may be fine for what you do) and getting a really decent lens.
But as far as I know, Canon hasn't made any 'dogs' in EF mount.
Jan 31, 2018 14:28:45 #
BebuLamar wrote:
One thing I don't like about the AE-1, AE-1P and A-1 is that when in manual mode you have to look in the viewfinder to find out which aperture the meter suggests and then put the camera down and set the aperture on the lens. There is a reason that Canon calls it "Manual override" and not "Manual".
Yeah, I have an A-1. I remember that being annoying.
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