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Jan 25, 2018 10:46:48   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
To the OP:
Do you shoot video or care about video quality?
Do you like tilt only screen or tilt and swivel?
How steady are your hands?
What are the types of conditions do you shoot in (Cold, wet, extreme brightness, etc)?

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Jan 25, 2018 11:59:17   #
BobT Loc: southern Minnesota
 
I would have to recommend the Panasonic GX85. I just bought it, and love it. Am now in the process of selling all of my Canon DSLR gear.

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Jan 25, 2018 12:21:55   #
Oly Guy
 
I have had both Olympus cameras-the OM D 10 or 5 is way beyond the older pen models- the OM d 5 with the 45mm prime is a gem. Olympus has great jpegs and the color is super with the newer processor. The prime lenses at 1.8 are great in low light, I think overall Only leads the pack although Fuji and Sony are very good also. In my opinion-having had both. I still love the Bokeh with the D 7200Nikon-

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Jan 25, 2018 13:40:04   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
The GH4 was my pick... I've had one for quite a while. It has stood me well as both a stills camera and a video camera. Actually, I got it for that BALANCE of pro video and high-end stills quality. I will replace it with a GH5 or the (as yet unannounced, probably coming for the 2020 Olympics) GH6.

The Lumix GX8 competes directly with the Pen F, as both have a similar form factor and 20MP sensors. The Pen F looks cooler, the GX8 performs a little better (AF Speed).

The Lumix G85 is a better buy with kit lens than the OM-D E-M5 Mark II.

All that said, this is a good list, and all these cameras are worth considering. When it comes down to spending your money, I'd simply recommend you try the two or three you will consider buying. While Oly and Panny share the same lens mount, and both make some fantastic lenses, their cameras have very different ergonomics, menus, grips, button placements... Feel in hand is important, as is the ability to adjust the camera quickly when using it.
The GH4 was my pick... I've had one for quite a wh... (show quote)


Panasonic bring out the GH6? It just keeps getting better and better for 4/3rds. One has to feel like the fox in the hen house.

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Jan 25, 2018 13:40:46   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
wdross wrote:
Panasonic bring out the GH6? It just keeps getting better and better for 4/3rds. One has to feel like the fox in the hen house.


at least a year (or two away).

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Jan 25, 2018 14:43:02   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
burkphoto wrote:
I'd rather have a Panasonic G85. That camera is extremely well-rounded, with Dual IS II, no anti-aliasing filter over the sensor, easy-to-use menus and physical controls, and more.

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g85-g80 <— DPReview gave the G85 their Gold Award.

Impressive features.
How many other cameras do in-camera focus stacking?
I could find that very useful.

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Jan 25, 2018 15:12:55   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Impressive features.
How many other cameras do in-camera focus stacking?
I could find that very useful.


I know that the Olympus E-M1 mrII does it. It also does stacks from 3 to 7 images for HDR. I am sure that Panasonic has that in some of their cameras also. I don't know if it has "migrated" to APS-C or FF.

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Jan 25, 2018 15:42:49   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Olympus EM 5 Mark II or Olympus EM 1 Mark II. The EM 5 will be less expensive, I've seen it for $799. I have the 14 - 150 II (equivalent to 28 - 300) lens which is weatherproof, gives you a lot of reach, and great images. I adore mine1

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Jan 25, 2018 15:50:15   #
Kuzano
 
MarkSki wrote:
We have both. Each has its advantages. The PEN F is wonderfully compact, especially with the collapsible lens with electric zoom. It has about as many bells and whistles as my Em5 MkII, which is a little easier to use for me, with my larger fingers (the buttons on both are small). I like the more traditional DSLR look and feel of my EM5; my wife likes the retro look of her PEN F. Both are remarkable cameras, and the images they produce are incredible.


Basic and important differences.

The PEN F has the new 20 Mp sensor, same as the OM-D EM1 MkII. It also has the same improved High Resolution Sensor Shift technology of the EM-1 MkII.

I just sold my OM-D E-M5 II and looking at one the other 2 upgrades. E-M1 MkII or PEN F. More features on the E-M1 Mk II, more expensive.

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Jan 25, 2018 15:51:00   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Em10ii and Pen-f only has focus bracketing not focus stacking.

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Jan 25, 2018 15:54:13   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Kuzano wrote:
Basic and important differences.

The PEN F has the new 20 Mp sensor, same as the OM-D EM1 MkII. It also has the same improved High Resolution Sensor Shift technology of the EM-1 MkII.

I just sold my OM-D E-M5 II and looking at one the other 2 upgrades. E-M1 MkII or PEN F. More features on the E-M1 Mk II, more expensive.


They're both a 20mp sensor, but I don't think they are actually the same sensor model.

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Jan 25, 2018 16:01:45   #
Kuzano
 
davyboy wrote:
THe G85 is cheaper than gx8 and has the low pass filter removed for better image quality. The front is made from magnesium.


Please note. I believe Olympus removed all low pass AA filters some years ago. The first weakened low pass filtering was in the EPL-1 in 2006. I bought one because it was reviewed as considerably sharper than the Panasonic counterpart. That was back on the 12 Mp sensor. So, again, some time ago. Twelve years of no low pass on Olympus. The reason plus no IBIS that I have bypassed Panasonic. Yes, I realize all that has changed, but historically Olympus has always been more innovative, with Panasonic following their lead in many areas.

Also, I've had Panasonic lenses, and I challenge anyone to tell me they get good support from Panasonic. I have never been able to actually contact Panasonic Support. Their idea of support is they give you a number to mail your item in for assessment and a return quote. Have never seen them do support any other way.

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Jan 25, 2018 19:14:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Impressive features.
How many other cameras do in-camera focus stacking?
I could find that very useful.


My GH4 and the GH5 do it. The G9 probably does it. It’s been around for a while.

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Jan 25, 2018 19:44:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Kuzano wrote:
Please note. I believe Olympus removed all low pass AA filters some years ago. The first weakened low pass filtering was in the EPL-1 in 2006. I bought one because it was reviewed as considerably sharper than the Panasonic counterpart. That was back on the 12 Mp sensor. So, again, some time ago. Twelve years of no low pass on Olympus. The reason plus no IBIS that I have bypassed Panasonic. Yes, I realize all that has changed, but historically Olympus has always been more innovative, with Panasonic following their lead in many areas.

Also, I've had Panasonic lenses, and I challenge anyone to tell me they get good support from Panasonic. I have never been able to actually contact Panasonic Support. Their idea of support is they give you a number to mail your item in for assessment and a return quote. Have never seen them do support any other way.
Please note. I believe Olympus removed all low pas... (show quote)


Panasonic has excellent professional support service through its professional dealer network. They have plenty of video pros using their GHx cameras at ad agencies, in-house corporate studios, TV stations, and small production companies.

Their consumer products are quite another story.

That said, their better Micro 4/3 stuff seems to be extremely reliable. The GH4 is built as well or better than my old Nikon F3...

They also started REALLY listening to their pro customers when the GH2 got popular for video. Each camera since has added numerous features specifically requested by the Lumix Luminaries advisory group. The engineers travel all over, meeting with users to test ideas and get feedback.

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Jan 26, 2018 04:51:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Big-Koi wrote:
I am thinking about what should be my first 4/3 mirrorless camera. I currently have two point and shoot digital cameras, a Canon S-110 5X Optical Zoom ( 5.2-26mm, f/2.0-5.9) and a Sony DSC-HX90V 30X Optical Zoom (2.5-6.4mm f4.1-123). I use the canon S-110 mostly because os its faster lens but the zoom on the Sony and Optical viewfinder are nice to use for long shots. I also have a Canon P 35mm film camera I use ocasionally. I had a Canon D80 SLR but found I seldom used it because of its weight and size. I am considering an Olympus Pen F versus a Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark II. What are your thoughts?
Thanks, Big-Koi
I am thinking about what should be my first 4/3 mi... (show quote)


Wonderful wording! "What should be my first..."

You sound like me. I buy multiples of everything, selling some, but keeping most.

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