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Jan 13, 2018 17:21:59   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 


I wouldn't call them bizarre or unsettling. The work is quite beautiful if the context is understood properly. If you watch the documentary they interview her children about the portraits.

As far as horror movie goes, have you seen the work of Joel Peter Witkin.

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Jan 13, 2018 23:24:31   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
I've followed her work for years. I wish I was anywhere near any of those venues.
ricardo7 wrote:
From the NGA Schedule:

Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings
National Gallery of Art, Washington, March 4–May 28, 2018
Peabody Essex Museum, Salem, June 30–September 23, 2018
J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles, November 20, 2018–February 10, 2019
Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, March 3–May 27, 2019
Galerie nationale du Jeu de Paume, Paris, June 17 –September 22, 2019
High Museum of Art, Atlanta, October 19, 2019 –January 12, 2020

For more than forty years, Sally Mann (b. 1951, Lexington, Virginia) has made experimental, elegiac, and hauntingly beautiful photographs that span a broad body of work including portraits, still lifes, and landscapes. Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings explores how her relationship with the South has shaped her work. Some 125 photographs, many of which have not been exhibited or published previously, offer both a sweeping overview of Mann's artistic achievement and a focused exploration on the continuing influence of the South on her work. Mann's powerful and provocative work is organized into five sections: family, landscape, battlefields, legacy, and mortality. The exhibition is accompanied by a fully illustrated catalog with essays that explore the development of Mann's art; her family photographs; contemporary representations of the black body; the landscape as repository of cultural and personal memory; and Mann's debt to 19th-century photographers and techniques.
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Jan 14, 2018 14:20:16   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
The Joel Peter Witkin pics are far less disturbing to me. What is the context of two young girls pretending to be mothers with bored, angry faces, and even a dangling half smoked cigarette? Or of a boy in a white shirt and bow tie posing in a slaughter house? The images are shocking and jarring because of the potential beauty of the children juxtaposed with an ugly context. Are these supposed to be anti-Norman Rockwell pics, or supposed portraits of the offspring of the zombie apocalypse? I find nothing beautiful or redeeming about these pics of children. They are shocking and ugly. I can't think of any parents who would want these pics of their own children.

Darkroom317 wrote:
I wouldn't call them bizarre or unsettling. The work is quite beautiful if the context is understood properly. If you watch the documentary they interview her children about the portraits.

As far as horror movie goes, have you seen the work of Joel Peter Witkin.

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Jan 14, 2018 14:31:03   #
ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
 
Bobspez wrote:
The Joel Peter Witkin pics are far less disturbing to me. What is the context of two young girls pretending to be mothers with bored, angry faces, and even a dangling half smoked cigarette? Or of a boy in a white shirt and bow tie posing in a slaughter house? The images are shocking and jarring because of the potential beauty of the children juxtaposed with an ugly context. Are these supposed to be anti-Norman Rockwell pics, or supposed portraits of the offspring of the zombie apocalypse? I find nothing beautiful or redeeming about these pics of children. They are shocking and ugly. I can't think of any parents who would want these pics of their own children.
The Joel Peter Witkin pics are far less disturbing... (show quote)


What's shocking and ugly about these photos from Sally Mann??





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Jan 14, 2018 14:33:30   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Bobspez wrote:
The Joel Peter Witkin pics are far less disturbing to me. What is the context of two young girls pretending to be mothers with bored, angry faces, and even a dangling half smoked cigarette? Or of a boy in a white shirt and bow tie posing in a slaughter house? The images are shocking and jarring because of the potential beauty of the children juxtaposed with an ugly context. Are these supposed to be anti-Norman Rockwell pics, or supposed portraits of the offspring of the zombie apocalypse? I find nothing beautiful or redeeming about these pics of children. They are shocking and ugly. I can't think of any parents who would want these pics of their own children.
The Joel Peter Witkin pics are far less disturbing... (show quote)


I would agree somewhat with those in particular but I am talking about the whole body of work: Family Pictures.

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Jan 14, 2018 14:40:45   #
ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
I would agree somewhat with those in particular but I am talking about the whole body of work: Family Pictures.


That's just it. Her whole body of work is quite large
and covers many different genres. Look at her landscapes,
self portraits, the photos she made of her infirm husband.
There is a lot to see.

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Jan 14, 2018 14:42:09   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
ricardo7 wrote:
That's just it. Her whole body of work is quite large
and covers many different genres. Look at her landscapes,
self portraits, the photos she made of her infirm husband.
There is a lot to see.


Yes and the best thing anyone can do to understand here work is to read an interview or watch the documentary.

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Jan 14, 2018 15:19:28   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
If you have to ask you don't get it and never will, or don't want to.
What's going on in the first shot with the lady upside down in bikini panties on the side of the bed? What kind of expression is on the child's face, drugged, sick, in a trance or what? The second pic is followed by another pic of the same man and young girl with the older girl toe dancing nude on the table. Anything shocking there?

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ricardo7 wrote:
What's shocking and ugly about these photos from Sally Mann??

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Jan 14, 2018 15:24:34   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
You know, Hitler was a great president of Germany except for that death camp thing. A real patron of the arts and sciences. Almost got the A-Bomb before we did. His chief scientist, Wernher Von Braun, headed up NASA and got us to the moon. Adolph could really recognize and encourage talent. Charley Manson wasn't a bad singer or song writer. Probably would have made it in show business except for the Sharon Tate and LaBianca incidents. A person has to be judged by all their work. Sometimes some of it is so repulsive they don't get a pass on the good stuff they did.

ricardo7 wrote:
That's just it. Her whole body of work is quite large
and covers many different genres. Look at her landscapes,
self portraits, the photos she made of her infirm husband.
There is a lot to see.

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Jan 19, 2018 16:03:21   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
She is one of my favorite contemporary photographers. There is a great documentary about her from about a decade ago on Amazon.



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Jan 19, 2018 17:38:15   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
shelty wrote:
There was a fan and feather dancer, that my father took me to around 1941 or 2, named Sally Rand. Yeah, she was completely nude as she waved her feathers around.


Are you sure that wasn't Ayn Rand?

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Jan 24, 2018 01:22:52   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
ricardo7 wrote:
From the NGA Schedule:

Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings
National Gallery of Art, Washington, March 4–May 28, 2018
Peabody Essex Museum, Salem, June 30–September 23, 2018
J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles, November 20, 2018–February 10, 2019
Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, March 3–May 27, 2019
Galerie nationale du Jeu de Paume, Paris, June 17 –September 22, 2019
High Museum of Art, Atlanta, October 19, 2019 –January 12, 2020

For more than forty years, Sally Mann (b. 1951, Lexington, Virginia) has made experimental, elegiac, and hauntingly beautiful photographs that span a broad body of work including portraits, still lifes, and landscapes. Sally Mann: A Thousand Crossings explores how her relationship with the South has shaped her work. Some 125 photographs, many of which have not been exhibited or published previously, offer both a sweeping overview of Mann's artistic achievement and a focused exploration on the continuing influence of the South on her work. Mann's powerful and provocative work is organized into five sections: family, landscape, battlefields, legacy, and mortality. The exhibition is accompanied by a fully illustrated catalog with essays that explore the development of Mann's art; her family photographs; contemporary representations of the black body; the landscape as repository of cultural and personal memory; and Mann's debt to 19th-century photographers and techniques.
From the NGA Schedule: br br Sally Mann: A Thousa... (show quote)


one great contemporary photographer - a favorite of mine!

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