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Jan 8, 2018 11:47:30   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
No problem. You just declare a tie between all entrants for first place.


Everyone gets a participation trophy because, hey...we're all winners here just for showing up, right??

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Jan 8, 2018 11:48:29   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
tommystrat wrote:
As a photographer, golfer and musician, I find it interesting that, in each of those pursuits, answers to improving and growing as an artist or participant are often centered around acquiring the newest, most expensive gear, accessories, gadgets, widgets, etc. I smile a bit when a friend shows up with a brand new PRS electric guitar, costing in the thousands, and he is still struggling to play basic barre chords! My buddy invested over $2,000 in new golf clubs, and he struggles to get the ball off the ground. Invest in lessons instead of new clubs in order to learn the game? Nope.

In photography, it is the eye of the artist, the light, the moment that defines the image. Who cares what camera you used, or how much it cost, etc. Greg Noll, a legendary big-wave surfer, was asked what the limits of big wave surfing are. The discussion was centered around whether surfers being "towed-in" to huge waves by jet skis, rather than paddling-in like had traditionally been done, was ruining the "pure" surfing experience. He replied, "I'd be glad to be shot out of an elephant's a** if it helped me catch bigger waves." The end result...however achieved...is the final arbiter of art.
As a photographer, golfer and musician, I find it ... (show quote)

Someone should call PETA... Poor elephants will need 'surfer protection' now.

(Sorry, this thread is about levity. What you typed is entirely true but I try to keep this light. Still your statement is a good obeservation.)

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Jan 8, 2018 11:49:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
tommystrat wrote:
Everyone gets a participation trophy because, hey...we're all winners here just for showing up, right??

And you add trophy to using elephants for surfing??????????

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Jan 8, 2018 12:47:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tommystrat wrote:
As a photographer, golfer and musician, I find it interesting that, in each of those pursuits, answers to improving and growing as an artist or participant are often centered around acquiring the newest, most expensive gear, accessories, gadgets, widgets, etc. I smile a bit when a friend shows up with a brand new PRS electric guitar, costing in the thousands, and he is still struggling to play basic barre chords! My buddy invested over $2,000 in new golf clubs, and he struggles to get the ball off the ground. Invest in lessons instead of new clubs in order to learn the game? Nope.

In photography, it is the eye of the artist, the light, the moment that defines the image. Who cares what camera you used, or how much it cost, etc. Greg Noll, a legendary big-wave surfer, was asked what the limits of big wave surfing are. The discussion was centered around whether surfers being "towed-in" to huge waves by jet skis, rather than paddling-in like had traditionally been done, was ruining the "pure" surfing experience. He replied, "I'd be glad to be shot out of an elephant's a** if it helped me catch bigger waves." The end result...however achieved...is the final arbiter of art.
As a photographer, golfer and musician, I find it ... (show quote)


Yeah, it all boils down to that sweet spot between practice and learning. After thousands of hours of reading and doing, great gear becomes a bit helpful. But without knowledge and carefully honed skills, fancy tools are just fancy trinkets. It's a painful lesson for some to learn.

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Jan 8, 2018 12:53:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, it all boils down to that sweet spot between practice and learning. After thousands of hours of reading and doing, great gear becomes a bit helpful. But without knowledge and carefully honed skills, fancy tools are just fancy trinkets. It's a painful lesson for some to learn.

Now, please do not tell me you will shoot from an elephant rear end just to get the right stuff...

PETA sure has some work to do here.

(remember this thread is NOT serious).

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Jan 8, 2018 14:15:27   #
Stephan G
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Now, please do not tell me you will shoot from an elephant rear end just to get the right stuff...

PETA sure has some work to do here.

(remember this thread is NOT serious).


Imagining somebody at PETA snapping their head asking, "Who SEZ we is not serious?!"

Side note about Elephants' rear end right (and left) stuff. The folks who actually got hurt with the shutting down of the circus were the gardeners who rushed to be early for the parade of the elephants from the railroad side tracks to the place of the three rings. They had their diverse bags ready to collect that wonderful and natural fertilizer, to disperse in their yards. (Though I've read about a few fights erupting throughout the years. And I think there was a reporter who wanted to find out why so little was ending in the dumps.) I had a couple opportunities to watch those parades. But I was not a land owner at the times.

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Jan 8, 2018 14:43:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Now, please do not tell me you will shoot from an elephant rear end just to get the right stuff...

PETA sure has some work to do here.

(remember this thread is NOT serious).


No.

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Jan 8, 2018 14:44:59   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
burkphoto wrote:
No.

Uh oh..... NO????

You are sure?


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Jan 8, 2018 14:55:39   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
tommystrat wrote:
Everyone gets a participation trophy because, hey...we're all winners here just for showing up, right??


Yes. Every one is a winner. It has lost its meaning. Children are being socially promoted to the next grade. The importance of achieving the academic background to be promoted no longer exists. When and in many cases if they finish high school. Their grade proficiency is at the 9th-grade level.
CUNY, City University of New York has to incorporate remedial classes for incoming freshman. This is applicable to 3/4 of the incoming freshman.

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Jan 8, 2018 15:00:37   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, it all boils down to that sweet spot between practice and learning. After thousands of hours of reading and doing, great gear becomes a bit helpful. But without knowledge and carefully honed skills, fancy tools are just fancy trinkets. It's a painful lesson for some to learn.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/incredible-macro-photos-were-captured-slideshow-wp-115155052.html
Then again maybe not.

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Jan 8, 2018 17:44:21   #
jcboy3
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Who the hell knows so what is it with all the threads about the future of cameras, manufacturers and the like?

Beside, all the 'debate' participants in those threads will be dead or dying if I understand UHH demographics, me included, I hope.

In the mean time? Enjoy the non sense and the mayhem.

Oh, by the way, what is best? The N? The C?

Enjoy flogging the horse, it is long dead and if it moves, it is not because it is reanimated by your posts but because it is turning in his grave wondering when it will stop being savaged time and time again. Oh, I saw a nostril fly off the other day... Debate was about what to take in a trip.

One more thing (riiiiiiiight)... raw or JPG? How about SOOC or PP?

Finally, can someone please tell me what is a photographer?

Who the hell knows so what is it with all the thre... (show quote)


Cameras take good pictures now; who needs the future...I'm too busy with the present.

O is the best. Light, stable, mostly works (except when you need good lighting).

RAW RAW RAW for the home team. JPG is Just Pretending to be Good.

PP all the way. I don't have time to figure out the processing before I take the picture.

Take as much as you can on a trip. You can't take the picture if you don't have the gear. Is there any other point to travel? My memory has gone the way of my hair. Photos are the next best thing.

I do hope I get to see what photography has to offer in 20 years...but I'm not likely to be able to use it much or for long.

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Jan 8, 2018 20:19:09   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Let me be the heretic regarding the future and RAW... I think in-camera processing will get so good that even fewer users than today will bother with RAW. "Serious/professional photographers" may be diehards when it comes to RAW because they need that capability to do their work, but the majority of camera users today (counting DSLRs, bridge cameras, P&S consumer cameras, cell phones) are probably quite happy with their JPEGs, and I predict the JPEG quality will get much better over time. I believe the majority of "image snappers" would rather simply post and share their images digitally than waste their precious social networking time creating a great photo.

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Jan 8, 2018 21:08:00   #
anneabc
 
I love it. That's very funny.

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Jan 24, 2018 00:21:01   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Who the hell knows so what is it with all the threads about the future of cameras, manufacturers and the like?

Beside, all the 'debate' participants in those threads will be dead or dying if I understand UHH demographics, me included, I hope.

In the mean time? Enjoy the non sense and the mayhem.

Oh, by the way, what is best? The N? The C?

Enjoy flogging the horse, it is long dead and if it moves, it is not because it is reanimated by your posts but because it is turning in his grave wondering when it will stop being savaged time and time again. Oh, I saw a nostril fly off the other day... Debate was about what to take in a trip.

One more thing (riiiiiiiight)... raw or JPG? How about SOOC or PP?

Finally, can someone please tell me what is a photographer?

Who the hell knows so what is it with all the thre... (show quote)


the same thing that happened in the last 20 years. people will use what works for them.

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Jan 24, 2018 00:30:50   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
wj cody wrote:
the same thing that happened in the last 20 years. people will use what works for them.

That is likely the sanest answer but who wants to be sane when most of us are approaching senility????

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