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Jan 23, 2018 16:38:22   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Wrong. You can shoot in manual mode, using a handheld meter or "Sunny 16" rule to determine the shutter speed & then set the aperture on the ring...
DTran wrote:
There is no advantage of having the aperture ring with the D60 as you can't use it. Most (not all) lenses with aperture ring are not AF-S and thus won't AF with the D60.

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Jan 23, 2018 16:41:26   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
With the advent of more electronics, I feel that the possibility of failure increases. Especially so in the consumer line of lenses. But to each their own.


That was Nikon’s answer.

Personally, I have gotten used to the lack of an aperture ring on my Nikon G lenses.
The current consumer line of lenses don’t feel like they are made for the long haul.
With the exception of my 20 year-old 80-200 (sticky aperture blades), I’ve never had any Nikon Lens fail since I started using them over 40 years ago.
Will see if that’s true with these new-fanged G lenses.

BTW, I love the way my Fuji X-E2 handles...and the lenses have... an aperture ring, though not mechanically coupled.

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Jan 23, 2018 16:47:38   #
DTran
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Wrong. You can shoot in manual mode, using a handheld meter or "Sunny 16" rule to determine the shutter speed & then set the aperture on the ring...


I stand corrected! Yeah I do like shooting sans meter and manual focus. Wouldn't use a meter though takes all the fun out.

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Jan 23, 2018 18:30:38   #
George Rains Loc: Austin, TX.
 
I thank all of you for the answers given. I can see that I have a lot to learn. Again thank you.

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Jan 23, 2018 19:59:23   #
LarryFB Loc: Depends where our RV is parked
 
George Rains wrote:
DSLR, Nikon, can have aperture rings, or not. Is there an advantage one over the other?


If there is a method of controlling the aperature, what does it matter!

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Jan 23, 2018 23:14:30   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Wrong. You can shoot in manual mode, using a handheld meter or "Sunny 16" rule to determine the shutter speed & then set the aperture on the ring...

Are you saying that the D60 won't meter with a lens that has an aperture ring?

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Jan 23, 2018 23:24:15   #
jcboy3
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
From Nikon:
”What is a Nikon AF-G lens and what cameras are compatible with it?

Until recently only inexpensive Nikon lenses where available as AF- G lenses, however Nikon has now launched several new AF-G lenses including the professional AF-S VR70-200mm F2.8G IF ED and will continue to introduce new AF-G lens across the Nikkor range. The only difference between Nikon AF-D and AF-G lenses is that AF-G have no aperture ring. Studies reveal that few Professionals are now using lenses with aperture rings, the ability to electronically adjust exposures by 1/3 stop via the command dials far outperforms manual ring adjustment, however experienced the user may be.
A substantial weight saving is a secondary benefit too; G-type lenses, like D-type lenses, transmit distance information to the camera for 3D Matrix metering systems. The absence of an aperture ring affects the compatibility of the lens with certain cameras. See chart HERE
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From Nikon: br i ”What is a Nikon AF-G lens and w... (show quote)


Funny how Nikon can get their own answer wrong. There are AF D lenses, AF-S D lenses, and AF-S G lenses. D type have an aperture ring, while G type do not. AF lenses do not have a focus motor, while AF-S lenses do. Consumer bodies do not have a built in focus motor, and cannot auto-focus the AF D lenses. Pro-sumer and professional bodies do have a built in focus motor, and can auto-focus the AF D lenses.

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Jan 24, 2018 03:22:41   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
rehess wrote:
Are you saying that the D60 won't meter with a lens that has an aperture ring?

No, it won’t meter with any older manual focus lens (all of which have aperture rings) but will meter with any auto focus one( regardless of having an aperture ring or not)

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Jan 24, 2018 05:33:18   #
pmackd Loc: Alameda CA
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
That was Nikon’s answer.

Personally, I have gotten used to the lack of an aperture ring on my Nikon G lenses.
The current consumer line of lenses don’t feel like they are made for the long haul.
With the exception of my 20 year-old 80-200 (sticky aperture blades), I’ve never had any Nikon Lens fail since I started using them over 40 years ago.
Will see if that’s true with these new-fanged G lenses.

BTW, I love the way my Fuji X-E2 handles...and the lenses have... an aperture ring, though not mechanically coupled.
That was Nikon’s answer. br br Personally, I hav... (show quote)


The VR seems to be the weak spot on Nikon consumer zooms. I've had two failures, on an 18-140 and a 70-300 FX, both repaired by Nikon.

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Jan 24, 2018 06:36:06   #
turp77 Loc: Connecticut, Plainfield
 
George Rains wrote:
DSLR, Nikon, can have aperture rings, or not. Is there an advantage one over the other?


Quite a few have posted that the G lens is new. Nikon released it in 1981. 37 years I feel isn’t New. A G lens will work with your D60.

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Jan 24, 2018 06:42:48   #
jcboy3
 
turp77 wrote:
Quite a few have posted that the G lens is new. Nikon released it in 1981. 37 years I feel isn’t New. A G lens will work with your D60.


Which model?

First G lenses listed by Nikon are the 28-80 and 70-300 in 2001.

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Jan 24, 2018 06:43:40   #
BebuLamar
 
turp77 wrote:
Quite a few have posted that the G lens is new. Nikon released it in 1981. 37 years I feel isn’t New. A G lens will work with your D60.


I think the first G lens was introduced in 2000. So it's not new but it's not in 1981. If you are talking about the series E lenses? then yes but when people are talking about the new E lenses those are Nikon newest lenses with the electronic diaphragm.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:13:21   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
George Rains wrote:
DSLR, Nikon, can have aperture rings, or not. Is there an advantage one over the other?


The newest Nikon glass has no visable aperture ring. The aperture on these lenses are electronic. The advantage is when shooting at 10 to 14 frames a second the exposures from frame to frame will be much more consistent than with non electronic aperture glass. Otherwise, there is no difference.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:34:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
George Rains wrote:
DSLR, Nikon, can have aperture rings, or not. Is there an advantage one over the other?


I can adjust aperture using the camera, so that's fine for me. It's easier and faster.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:36:18   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Not entirely true, Nikon "D" lenses (came before "G" and "E" lenses that do not have aperture rings) has an aperture ring and when set to the lowest aperture (like f22 in some cases) will allow the camera to control the aperture.

Screamin Scott wrote:
Lenses can have aperture rings, camera bodies do not. A lens having an aperture ring has the aperture set via the ring (on older , less expensive manual focus lenses) whereas lenses without aperture rings require the aperture be set via the camera. They cannot be easily used on older film cameras that have no means to set the aperture via the camera body. (

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