Does POTUS45 Support Session's anti-States rights on Pot? (Page 2): Believe it or not I agree with you on this.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Texcaster wrote:

I wouldn't be suprised to find out the for profit prison industrial complex is behind Sessions. Filling prisons with non-violent low level potheads and other drug users is socially toxic. The non-violent come out the other end brutalized and ready to rumble. We spend around $50,000 each prisoner to make these companies happy. That money would be better spent on basic and higher education.

Believe it or not I agree with you on this.

ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California

Blurry,
Perhaps with the changing public acceptance, the legislators from those states will feel emboldened to pass such legislation. I can't imagine them contradicting their electorate's demonstrated will. POTUS45's good will on the matter maybe all that is necessary for them to initiate the change. I do not recall his public opinion on the issue of pot. Time will tell.

Blurryeyed wrote:

Yes, it will be a problem for the banks and for th... (show quote)

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

Blurryeyed wrote:

Yes, it will be a problem for the banks and for th... (show quote)

Are you suggesting that Federal law should trump states rights?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Kmgw9v wrote:

Are you suggesting that Federal law should trump states rights?

Really? Do you somehow think that the 10th amendment still lives? When the federal government has bastardized the commerce clause to regulate all aspects of business and so many other things that effect our lives? This is the first and only time that I have seen liberals stand behind the tenth, in the past they have always applauded its destruction.

This should have been an issue a long time ago, I don't see the tenth amendment as the issue here since for 100 years we have accepted the federal government regulating pot and other street drugs, this is more of selective enforcement which does not end well. If there is a 10th amendment issue then let's see a lawsuit and have the courts weigh in. Personally I have always considered pot to be less of an evil than alchol, but that does not mean that it is good for people. It does effect ambition and learning, but hey, if they legalized it in my state I would probably smoke a joint from time to time, smoked a lot when I was a kid.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

Blurry,
Perhaps with the changing public acceptance, the legislators from those states will feel emboldened to pass such legislation. I can't imagine them contradicting their electorate's demonstrated will. POTUS45's good will on the matter maybe all that is necessary for them to initiate the change. I do not recall his public opinion on the issue of pot. Time will tell.

Trump during his campaign said he would leave it alone, I think that this is Sessions restoring the rule of law, he did not direct prosecutors to go after these states, he simply told them to use their discretion in the application of the law. It is up to congress to fix this, simply turning your back on federal laws can lead to bad places, soon we will have segments of our society, individual states and communities deciding for themselves which laws apply and which don't, that is pretty much what we are seeing with both pot and immigration right now and it will only get worse if there is no course correction.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Yes, it will be a problem for the banks and for th... (show quote)

And the hell with the consequences?

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

Blurry's point are valid and strike at the heart of the problem. Laws should be abolished unless they will be enforced. The so called war on drugs has had little beneficial results but has wreaked havoc on individual liberties and lives of otherwise harmless citizens. Selective and arbitary enforcement effectively damages the rule of law, devolving it into the law of rule, an unstable and potentially dangerous threat to liberty and property.

The correction that needs to be made is legislatively, not more abritary decisions by the current gang in power. Historically, many of those in power understood they have no power over an "innocent" man. Their solution to obtaining and keeping power is to make all men guilty of violating something among the copious amount of, and at times, bizarre laws they create.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

thom w wrote:

May just be me, but I wasn't really able to follow... (show quote)

A few years ago, I had a life-threatening health issue and one of the side effects was complete inability to sleep. Edible (I don't smoke) Mj was essential to being able to sleep and help in my recovery. Another effect of my illness was being nauseous and hungry at the same time. MJ was my gateway drug to Thai food.

The health crisis is now but a memory, but I still use edibles occasionally as a sleep aid.

Our poison pixie AG should find something better to do.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

thom w wrote:

And the hell with the consequences?

Clearly you understand little of our country's constitution, it's underlying principles, and the rationale for them. Why are you angry with the top cop when the problem lies with the previous administration and the legislative branch.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

ArtzDarkroom wrote:

With the popular opinion changing on use of pot, more states voters are allowing its use, either medically or recreationally, but Sessions has rescinded Obama's refusal to cross states that allow it. Today, I read somewhere that this change in policy has a negative impact on banks dealing with that industry.

Should POTUS45 tell Sessions to "Sic'em" or back off?

I really don't care if you guys want to get potted up via interstate commerce. I would just like to be able to protect mine and my families life during interstate travel as well. Especially with all the dopers there will be roaming around.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

Blurryeyed wrote:

Clearly you understand little of our country's constitution, it's underlying principles, and the rationale for them. Why are you angry with the top cop when the problem lies with the previous administration and the legislative branch.

For the billionth time...he don't get much.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Bazbo wrote:

A few years ago, I had a life-threatening health issue and one of the side effects was complete inability to sleep. Edible (I don't smoke) Mj was essential to being able to sleep and help in my recovery. Another effect of my illness was being nauseous and hungry at the same time. MJ was my gateway drug to Thai food.

The health crisis is now but a memory, but I still use edibles occasionally as a sleep aid.

Our poison pixie AG should find something better to do.

What you are advocating for is an Executive branch that can nullify any federal law as it sees fit, how well do you think that will turn out. Many liberals go on and on about Trump acting as a dictator when in actuality it was Obama who did so.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Blurryeyed wrote:

What you are advocating for is an Executive branch that can nullify any federal law as it sees fit, how well do you think that will turn out. Many liberals go on and on about Trump acting as a dictator when in actuality it was Obama who did so.

I am suggesting that the US Attorneys have better things to do than to chase down pot heads. Devoting resources to this foolishness is taking away from resources that should be devoted to more serious crimes.

So if you choose to let far more serious crimes go unconfronted (because of your resource allocation choices) is that nullifying other Federal statutes? is that acting like a dictator?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Bazbo wrote:

A few years ago, I had a life-threatening health issue and one of the side effects was complete inability to sleep. Edible (I don't smoke) Mj was essential to being able to sleep and help in my recovery. Another effect of my illness was being nauseous and hungry at the same time. MJ was my gateway drug to Thai food.

The health crisis is now but a memory, but I still use edibles occasionally as a sleep aid.

Our poison pixie AG should find something better to do.

I've always found edibles to be a bit unpredictable. When you add that to the lag between eating it and being affected by it. I personally wouldn't eat an edible on a night when I work the next day. My wife gave me a brownie on a Friday night. I woke up early Sunday evening.
I'm glad it helped you.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Clearly you understand little of our country's constitution, it's underlying principles, and the rationale for them. Why are you angry with the top cop when the problem lies with the previous administration and the legislative branch.

I'm not angry and didn't mean to come across as though I was. I don't have any use for Sessions. He's quoted as having said "any white lawyer who takes on a civil rights case is a traitor to his race". I'm sure glad he isn't racist.