How Many of You Make Your Photographs (Page 5): R.Q., You shouldn't have to explain it more than once, Some people are looking for ANY loose word that they can "attack" on. The polite...

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

RichardQ wrote:

Sorry for the confusion. In the analog times I was... (show quote)

R.Q., You shouldn't have to explain it more than once, Some people are looking for ANY loose word that they can "attack" on. The polite term for those folks is "lawyer", But where I grew up it was 'as*h**e', Today, I'm unsure there's a difference!😉👍

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

chasgroh wrote:

...me too. And I really like a good mute point! (hehehe...)

To me, a good mute point is when I jam a pin into the "mic" hole of whatever camcorder is recording any of my families "reunions" LOL!😉👍

franburst

This is my first entry to the Ugly Hedgehog Forum. I do this after a year or so of reading and learning from the posts. Without getting too deep into the comparison of photographer vs camera operator, it is this photo that draws me in. The picture is the work of a photographer who used light, composition and a planned setting, to convey a message in a finished photograph. At least I found a message in the picture. So here's my point, I can't separate being a photographer from being camera operator. If I press the shutter button on a camera I am the photographer and unless I take the initial exposure to a person who specializes in post processing to do the editing, I am also the camera operator.

Having said all that above, I would like to see a discussion on this Forum that considers this question--What level of post processing takes an image out of the realm of photography into another art form?

Rongnongno Loc: FL

franburst wrote:

.../...Having said all that above, I would like to see a discussion on this Forum that considers this question--What level of post processing takes an image out of the realm of photography into another art form?

A dead horse flagellated, beaten, dissected every three moths or so...

Result? of all that? No one really cares one way or another.

Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN

franburst wrote:

Having said all that above, I would like to see a discussion on this Forum that considers this question--What level of post processing takes an image out of the realm of photography into another art form?

None. If an image was originated by recording light it is a photograph. No amount of processing charges that. The only way to change that is to render it in another medium while using the photograph for reference.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

rmalarz wrote:

as opposed to letting the camera and software do i... (show quote)

Even when I'm using software I still make the photographs. I tell the software what to do the same way I tell the camara what to do. I'm not twiddling knobs and guessing, everything is done with a purpose.

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

Darkroom317 wrote:

None. If an image was originated by recording light it is a photograph. No amount of processing charges that. The only way to change that is to render it in another medium while using the photograph for reference.

n3eg Loc: West coast USA

The photos you take are equal to the photos you make?

I don't know. The last thing I'll ever be is an artist, but that never stops me from doing photography.

btbg

Jackson is now part owner of a photography art gallery in the Old Mill District in Bend.

sloscheider Loc: Minnesota

rgrenaderphoto wrote:

It is a moot point. I consider myself to be an Artist. Photography is the medium, Lightroom, Photoshop and other plug ins are the tools.

That exactly what I had in mind. A 3rd category, Operator, Photographer & Artist

I put myself in the middle as most of the time I'm in Aperture priority and a purist would say if you're not in Manual mode you're not in control. So it depends on your point of view.

What I feel i'm NOT is an artist... I strive to be an artist but suspect I'm more of a photographer, I can take a technically good image with composition in mind and produce shot that people like but when I see something that an artist produces I often feel there's no way I would have thought of that on my own.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

sloscheider wrote:

That exactly what I had in mind. A 3rd category, ... (show quote)

...no...you think like YOU. Nobody else does that. You do you better than anyone. I feel *everybody* is an artist, in one way or another. It's just a title, there are many synonymous words and phrases; suffice that you live an "artful" life. I do...I've finally copped to it.

sloscheider Loc: Minnesota

chasgroh wrote:

...no...you think like YOU. Nobody else does that. You do you better than anyone. I feel *everybody* is an artist, in one way or another. It's just a title, there are many synonymous words and phrases; suffice that you live an "artful" life. I do...I've finally copped to it.

That's a good point... thank you

tdekany Loc: Oregon

chasgroh wrote:

I feel *everybody* is an artist, in one way or another.

Is everyone a race car driver, basketball player, chef etc..?

The person you replied to is realistic.

Unfortunately, most of us could never produce an award winning photo, even if our life depended on it.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

tdekany wrote:

Is everyone a race car driver, basketball player, chef etc..?

The person you replied to is realistic.

Unfortunately, most of us could never produce an award winning photo, even if our life depended on it.

...art in and of itself is not a profession like cooking, although cooking artistically is just that. It's all definition and I stand by my statement...I'm absolutely positive YOU do certain things like nobody else, and those things may be categorized as "art", haha, though, most probably not by you. But it all depends on how the individual feels about it, that is the root of it all. So relax and let others have their unique opinions about the most undefinable word in our lexicon. I'm as realistic as someone who's been around the block a few times, but not very judgemental, at least in discussions like this. To each, brother, that's how I put it out, as an opinion...and it took me quite awhile to arrive at it.

wj cody Loc: springfield illinois

rmalarz wrote:

as opposed to letting the camera and software do i... (show quote)

in my darkroom, i sometimes dodge and burn, but that's about the size of it.