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Dec 30, 2017 14:11:29   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
gessman wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with sharing the information about a shot, equipment used, settings, etc., and in terms of an overall saving of "man-hours," no longer than it takes a person to list the information in a post, it would seem to be pretty beneficial to do that rather than having several hundred people go to the exif data for the information. I feel it can be extremely useful and enlightening to see what another photographer uses and does to capture an image, especially a motion shot. Careful analysis can remind one of some fundamental technique and can even allow another photographer to improve upon what was done previously if nothing else. In fact, I think it's very beneficial for a beginner but I also think the more a person knows, the more he/she can derive from careful analysis of an image and then the specs that went into making an image. It never hurts to review and hone ones technique and admiring and fully appreciating the work of others has an extremely positive effect on future outcome. Now, if you are a person who shoots only one subject over and over and has no aspiration to be more versatile it does limit what others can glean from your work so there'd be little use in studying some photographers work repeatedly since it doesn't change. But in today's climate of the ability to experiment inexpensively as many of us choose to shoot a lot of different subject matter, it can be very beneficial to study what others do in various genres and it certainly helps even an experienced person to be able to analyze the works of others with an eye toward improving their own efforts. It's like many other areas of life, the more information you have, the more you can learn and know which leads to the expansion of your talent. You never know what another person gets from knowing what you did in making an image. Inspiration is a strange and elusive thing but many of us are inspired by those around us and it would clearly be disingenuous to deny that.
I don't see anything wrong with sharing the inform... (show quote)


Very WELL said !

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Dec 30, 2017 19:48:04   #
rplain1 Loc: Dayton, Oh.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
That's someone said. I didn't say that. The EXIF data is not something useful for learning.
I know you didn't say it, but you did say it's useless. And the other person said if I were a true photographer I would have the software to get it. So which of you do I believe in order to become a true photographer? And how do I know that either one of you are?

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Dec 30, 2017 19:53:02   #
BebuLamar
 
rplain1 wrote:
I know you didn't say it, but you did say it's useless. And the other person said if I were a true photographer I would have the software to get it. So which of you do I believe in order to become a true photographer? And how do I know that either one of you are?


I said the information is useless especially to others and not to the photographer his/herself. And I stand by that. Whether you want to extract EXIF data is up to you, I have no comment on that. True photographer to me take pictures so literally there is no faked photographers except those who create image without using a camera or lens.

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Dec 30, 2017 20:49:34   #
Dan Downie Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Finally, a rule that makes perfect sense. If a picture alone is worth a thousand words, a photo with that data accompanying it is a complete story. I for one greatly appreciate the data as well as the time our members take to supply it.

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Dec 30, 2017 20:54:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I said the information is useless especially to others ....
and four pages ago I provided an example of when your words were false, but you persist

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Dec 30, 2017 21:06:35   #
Steve Mc
 
All.info is.important! I love to see it.

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Dec 30, 2017 21:27:47   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
and four pages ago I provided an example of when your words were false, but you persist


Yes they are useless.

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Dec 30, 2017 21:38:55   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes they are useless.



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Dec 30, 2017 21:40:55   #
gnawbone Loc: Southern Indiana
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
First off: any "photographer" in 2018 worthy of the title has software installed on their computer(s) to read the EXIF ... Most everyone spending time listing out the data available in the EXIF hasn't yet earned their photographer card for 2018 ...

Second, you know full well this site is more of a social site with a focus (mostly) on photography. Judging the performance of the general crowd is not a way to judge a photographer ... see 1st point as a reminder, as needed.
First off: any "photographer" u in 2018... (show quote)


I would agree with you but a lot of photos have minimal EXIF data in them. Usually if there is a watermark on the photo the poster has blocked any info about the camera, f-stop, ISO, aperture, and lens type in the EXIF data. I don't know if people intentionally restrict their EXIF or if the software or camera they use is defaulted to limit it. I'll look at the EXIF data if there is something about a picture that piques my interest and it is usually a waste of time - limited data.

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Dec 30, 2017 22:38:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Why would you care about anyone else’s EXIF? I don’t care about yours. I care about your *images* that reach out, grab me, and tell me something! I don’t care how you communicate. The message is more important than the medium.

It’s highly unlikely that your settings would educate me, or anyone, without the context of being there at the time of exposure.

I DO occasionally look at my EXIF data to figure out what went right or wrong with a file. But it’s always in reference to what I experienced at the point of photography.

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Dec 30, 2017 22:43:47   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes they are useless.


So, what is wrong with my example???

Are you not intrigued with what others are able to do with high ISO if they have the right equipment???

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Dec 30, 2017 22:46:17   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Why would you care about anyone else’s EXIF? I don’t care about yours. I care about your *images* that reach out, grab me, and tell me something! I don’t care how you communicate. The message is more important than the medium.

It’s highly unlikely that your settings would educate me, or anyone, without the context of being there at the time of exposure.

I DO occasionally look at my EXIF data to figure out what went right or wrong with a file. But it’s always in reference to what I experienced at the point of photography.
Why would you care about anyone else’s EXIF? I don... (show quote)

The use of high ISO by those who have the right equipment has opened new frontiers to me; I know about this only because of ISO values reported in the EXF.

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Dec 30, 2017 22:52:48   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
The use of high ISO by those who have the right equipment has opened new frontiers to me; I know about this only because of ISO values reported in the EXF.


I guess I read too many test reports and reviews. That’s where I learn about such
capabilities...

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Dec 31, 2017 00:04:17   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
I guess I read too many test reports and reviews. That’s where I learn about such
capabilities...
That's great for you. I don't always see them where I am, so I take another path, especially when I see work that I would like to emulate.

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Dec 31, 2017 11:11:49   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
SOME people CAN learn from EXIF analysis - SOME people NEVER will ......

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