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Dec 27, 2017 12:02:38   #
Gspeed Loc: Rhinebeck, NY
 
Okay, you all have convinced me. I am going to read my manual for my Nikon D610 I bought a year ago. Thank you all! ~ Eileen

rmalarz wrote:
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial question regarding the D850. I downloaded the manual to find the answer. One of the first things that caught my attention was on the very front page of the manual.

I quote, "Read this manual thoroughly before using the camera".

I wonder how many follow this "prime directive". I know when I got my D700, the only thing I did prior to reading the manual, was put a battery in the charger. Then, I could do two things at the same time, charge battery and read. I didn't even pick up the camera until I'd read through the entire manual. Yup, feet up on the desk, a cup of coffee nearby, the battery in the charger, and the manual nestled in my lap. I read every page.

Then, I placed the fully charged battery in the camera and read through the manual again. This time working on each section with the camera in hand.

Oh, I did the same thing when I got my D800e. Though very similar to the D700, I still read through the entire manual before picking up the camera.

I wish girlfriends came with the same sort of documentation.

--Bob
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Dec 27, 2017 12:05:47   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
If you have an aversion to printed (or digitally rendered) text I have found a wealth of information regarding how to set up and use my D7100 on YouTube. I can watch the video, fiddle along with my camera and learn in a visual and interactive way. Yes, I do have and use the manual, but for, say, how to set up to take bracketed shots for HDR, there are a number of videos that address that exact subject and I don't have to wade through the often-fragmented information buried on page 287 of the manual (or is that on page 34??)

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Dec 27, 2017 12:10:58   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
rmalarz wrote:
None of the cameras I own, including the Nikon F I received as a Christmas present in 1971, came with instructions on how to develop the film I shot. That is a separate subject altogether. So, techniques that use features on the camera, but are not camera manufacturer related won't be covered in their manual. Those are things one needs to research on their own. UHH is a great place to read a wide variety of good and not so good advice on camera use and techniques.
--Bob


Sadly, so it has always been for me.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:11:33   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Bob....I did NOT read the manuals when I first got my D7000 or D800. At least fully. Frankly, I couldn't wait to start taking photos and see what kind of results I could get, of course with the factory defaults. However, I started reading the manual shortly afterwards. The problem with the manual is that there is a lot of information to absorb. For individuals already familiar with digital cameras, which I was not with the D7000, it all makes sense. It takes awhile, however, for it all to make sense to the digital initiate. I found the manual, and later Young's book on the D800 to be great reference tools which I read through as needed. I've done a lot of playing and exploring with the settings and parallel reading in Young's book over time. My basic point is that unless you're updating familiar information, it can't be absorbed all at one time. Perhaps it would be different for me with the next camera, should that ever occur.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:14:43   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I usually study the manual thoroughly while the camera is still in shipment on its way to me.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:21:08   #
Stephan G
 
The idea of using index cards is great, especially if one notes what they are doing when they get a shot that surprises them in its quality and result. I do carry a stack of 3 x 5 cut paper sheets for that purpose. Later I check the manual to "compare notes".

Unless you work the controls, the manual does little. Something I learned a long time ago.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:31:27   #
K2KImages
 
rmalarz wrote:
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial question regarding the D850. I downloaded the manual to find the answer. One of the first things that caught my attention was on the very front page of the manual.

I quote, "Read this manual thoroughly before using the camera".

I wonder how many follow this "prime directive". I know when I got my D700, the only thing I did prior to reading the manual, was put a battery in the charger. Then, I could do two things at the same time, charge battery and read. I didn't even pick up the camera until I'd read through the entire manual. Yup, feet up on the desk, a cup of coffee nearby, the battery in the charger, and the manual nestled in my lap. I read every page.

Then, I placed the fully charged battery in the camera and read through the manual again. This time working on each section with the camera in hand.

Oh, I did the same thing when I got my D800e. Though very similar to the D700, I still read through the entire manual before picking up the camera.

I wish girlfriends came with the same sort of documentation.

--Bob
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial ques... (show quote)

I too read the manual before using the camera. Then picked up the camera and practiced every page. After using the camera went back to the manual. I still refer to the manual on occasion. I do this for every camera that I have purchased.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:38:13   #
thomasm650 Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Looks like you're in for some more fun learning Lightroom, Photoshop, On1, etc. No manuals either.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:43:29   #
thomasm650 Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Hank Radt wrote:
I am an inveterate manual reader. Which I did when I got my a6300. But after reading it, I had no idea how to really work the camera (I re-took up photography after a multi-decade hiatus, having learned with B&W film, in the darkroom, where basically you controlled the aperture and shutter speed, after selecting whichever seemed right for what you were trying to shoot).

Yes, it told me what all the function buttons were, but nothing about what they would do. So I struggled along with some basic settings, trying different things without any understanding of what I was doing until I found UHH and learned that I was not a complete idiot - in one of the posts, someone mentioned Friedman's and Busch's Guides and I downloaded the former, ready to download the latter as well if needed. I read the guide, camera in hand, and finally - FINALLY - figured out what these settings were meant to do. I got the camera set up the way I wanted, started shooting again and - voila - now had the camera I thought I had bought! Since then, I'm a happy camper - love the camera.

I don't know whether useless manuals are just a Sony problem (and I sent them a rather pointed note...), but if other camera manuals are similar, the whole industry needs a good kick in the _____. In any case, they have created a nice little business for Friedman and Busch and, frankly, I had no issue spending the $15 for the Kindle version.
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Looks like you're in for some more fun learning Lightroom, Photoshop, On1, etc. No manuals either.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:43:52   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ELNikkor wrote:
When I told my sister-in-law seldom read manuals unless I couldn't figure something out, she started in on me with a rant about how foolish I was. Then I remembered her job for 20 years was writing user manuals as a technical writer for Kodak...


By any chance did she work with Tom Apeland on the DP2 project?

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Dec 27, 2017 12:59:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
CatMarley wrote:
How do you read a manual? They are printed in microscopic gray print on lighter gray paper. I get a headache after trying vainly to decipher a single page!


These days, they’re all in PDF format in iBooks on my iPhone. They scale well. Pinch and spread to zoom in and out... AND, it’s always with me.

I seldom read printed materials now. If I can’t read it on the phone or computer, it’s annoying.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:19:19   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
"I wish girlfriends came with the same sort of documentation." They do, Bob, but you have to marry them to be able to download the manual!
Mark

rmalarz wrote:
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial question regarding the D850. I downloaded the manual to find the answer. One of the first things that caught my attention was on the very front page of the manual.

I quote, "Read this manual thoroughly before using the camera".

I wonder how many follow this "prime directive". I know when I got my D700, the only thing I did prior to reading the manual, was put a battery in the charger. Then, I could do two things at the same time, charge battery and read. I didn't even pick up the camera until I'd read through the entire manual. Yup, feet up on the desk, a cup of coffee nearby, the battery in the charger, and the manual nestled in my lap. I read every page.

Then, I placed the fully charged battery in the camera and read through the manual again. This time working on each section with the camera in hand.

Oh, I did the same thing when I got my D800e. Though very similar to the D700, I still read through the entire manual before picking up the camera.

I wish girlfriends came with the same sort of documentation.

--Bob
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial ques... (show quote)



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Dec 27, 2017 13:28:27   #
Brayyd Loc: Biloxi, MS
 
I belong to that group of people who read a manual to learn what I can't figure out. I'm not afraid to read it, but I don't always need to read it. Same with my computers. I learn best through trial and error. Manuals should always be part of the learning process, but they are not always necessary. If one has used a camera before, buying a new one does not require a manual to at least get started. Want to learn the gizmos that weren't on the old camera? Ah, manual time.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:55:25   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rmalarz wrote:
Someone on this forum asked a rather remedial question regarding the D850. I downloaded the manual to find the answer. One of the first things that caught my attention was on the very front page of the manual.

I quote, "Read this manual thoroughly before using the camera". <snip>

I wish girlfriends came with the same sort of documentation.

--Bob


I always read the manual, more than once and with the camera in my lap.

Girlfriends would require volumes, perhaps entire libraries. And they would be out of date as soon as they were printed.

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Dec 27, 2017 14:01:50   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
No, they are not brand related. Sometimes they can be amusing, even if not particularly helpful. The owner's manual for one car started their instruction for the radio with, "Do not water to the unit when washing the car, careful for the speaker."

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