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Dec 27, 2017 08:12:00   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
Since the specifications are 32˚ F to 104˚ F, I will not be subjecting my Canon 77D to temperatures lower than ice freezing temperature.
Since I bought my Canon 77D for less than 1/2 price, used, I do not get a warrantee.

Thank you everyone for your posts. I read them all.

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Dec 27, 2017 08:42:36   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
I would love to take my new Canon 77D outside but not at 5˚F. It is just too cold.
I think I read in the manual, that the LCD won't even work. Also, I worry about the sensor.
Any comments? How cold is too cold?


Yesterday I was outside taking photos of the grandkids in the snow, at -22˚F (-30˚C).
No problem with the camera, although my nose was very red when I went back inside!
I would think that the first thing to give out in/on the camera, would be the battery, but all the time I was holding the camera, I used my gloved hand to hold the camera by the side where the battery compartment is. Also had a second battery ready to go in my parka inside pocket, but didn't need it in the half hour I was outside.

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Dec 27, 2017 08:59:18   #
Bugfan Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
In the seventies when I was shooting film I have done so all the way to minus thirty five C. There were never any problems with the camera or the lens or the motor drive. The only problems were with me, that's damned cold for a human.

When I went digital I've not been as adventurous yet. So the most I have tried was minus twenty five C. So far there have been no problems. I could probably go lower too but that's yet to be tested.

The only real issue I've found is battery life and condensation.

I deal with condensation by bringing the camera into a warm place inside a plastic bag and I keep it that way until it's warmed all the way up.

As to batteries, I keep a couple in my parka inside pocket while i use a third one. When the one I'm using starts to get too low I swap a warm one in the camera and place the depleted one in my inside pocket. By the time I've gone through three batteries the first one has warmed up just fine and is able to continue to work for me.

As to the human, I managed to find a parka that is guaranteed to minus fifty. It's also a size larger than I need so there's room for gear inside too. That is my answer to staying warm in those conditions. The only real problem is gloves for the hands. If they protect you from the cold you can't work the controls and if you can work the controls the hands get cold. The only solution for me is fingerless woolen mitts and hand warmer pockets.

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Dec 27, 2017 09:03:31   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
I would love to take my new Canon 77D outside but not at 5˚F. It is just too cold.
I think I read in the manual, that the LCD won't even work. Also, I worry about the sensor.
Any comments? How cold is too cold?


I have used my Nikons at temps down do -42, check the thermometer pic on my website that I took for proof!

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Dec 27, 2017 09:25:58   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
AzShooter1 wrote:
I can't believe people go out when it's below 40.



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Dec 27, 2017 09:48:35   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
I would love to take my new Canon 77D outside but not at 5˚F. It is just too cold.
I think I read in the manual, that the LCD won't even work. Also, I worry about the sensor.
Any comments? How cold is too cold?


Go out and take pictures. Just remember to put your camera in a zip lock bag before entering a heated building, such as your home. Keep it there until it reaches room temp or you run the risk of condensation forming on and in the camera and lens.
Cold weather can affect your LCD, but it will be fine as soon as it warms up. Never heard of it bothering a sensor, but even then it should be fine once it warms back up. Your battery won't last as long in the cold. A warm spare in an inside jacket pocket is a good idea, or, if it starts to get weak just remove it from the camera and warm it up.
The temperature range shown in the manual, usually 32F to 120F is really nothing more then an attempt by the manufacturer to cover their butt. Cameras are subject to colder and hotter temps everyday without problems. Most will experience higher or lower, or even both extremes just during shipping from Asia to the US.

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Dec 27, 2017 11:12:15   #
GalaxyCat Loc: Boston, MA
 
Thank you to everyone. I have an Olympus PEN PL-1 that a UHH person sold me for $140, and I will be using that. My 77D is too important to me to risk anything.
I have no warrantee on either, but I am very happy to have any cameras.

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Dec 27, 2017 11:17:34   #
mrjcall Loc: Woodfin, NC
 
GalaxyCat wrote:
Thank you to everyone. I have an Olympus PEN PL-1 that a UHH person sold me for $140, and I will be using that. My 77D is too important to me to risk anything.
I have no warrantee on either, but I am very happy to have any cameras.


Nope, not a good attitude! You need to feel comfortable using any of your gear under any circumstances. If you feel your 77D is your best camera, then use it, period! It's kind of like the attitude of so many here on UHH that leave the 'good gear' home when they go on vacation or to interesting places. Why in the world do you have 'good gear' if not to use it for important occasions? Same with cold weather....just use it, you won't hurt it, eh? 😉

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Dec 27, 2017 11:39:10   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
I will add one thing here. I was photographing Big Horn Sheep in 1999 during the rut and had a couple big rams butting heads (at -31 degrees) so I quickly switched my favorite Nikon F5 to Continuous shutter and proceeded to shoot an entire roll of Fuji Provia for the event. When done I noticed the film counter read "42"! No, the camera was properly loaded, its just that the film lost flexibility at that frigid temperature and continuous shooting was too much for it, the film broke off at the takeup spool after the very first shot! Celluloid gets very brittle in the cold, as I found out the hard way that day.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:10:28   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
AzShooter1 wrote:
I can't believe people go out when it's below 40.


Hey, someone's gotta shovel the snow. May as well take some pics while out there.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:23:17   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
MT Shooter wrote:
I will add one thing here. I was photographing Big Horn Sheep in 1999 during the rut and had a couple big rams butting heads (at -31 degrees) so I quickly switched my favorite Nikon F5 to Continuous shutter and proceeded to shoot an entire roll of Fuji Provia for the event. When done I noticed the film counter read "42"! No, the camera was properly loaded, its just that the film lost flexibility at that frigid temperature and continuous shooting was too much for it, the film broke off at the takeup spool after the very first shot! Celluloid gets very brittle in the cold, as I found out the hard way that day.
I will add one thing here. I was photographing Big... (show quote)


I experienced the same problem with Kodachrome 64 during a military exercise in the eastern arctic in 1972. Temperatures were as low as -62F. Just as big a problem was breathing on the lens or viewfinder which instantly fogged up and froze.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:24:55   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
G Rissler wrote:


Excellent link. It puts to rest the fears of those who are afraid of hurting their cameras. I have permanently archived it as this subject comes up at the beginning of every winter.

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Dec 27, 2017 12:28:53   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
AzShooter1 wrote:
I can't believe people go out when it's below 40.


Dude, I was going to say 50°, but I'm in Los Angeles.

All kidding aside, the killer would be taking your camera from your heated home out into the cold and getting condensation on the internals. If you have a mudroom or entrance area that is not fully heated, leaving your gear there for a while to acclimate before the shock of 5° would be a good idea. But seriously, have a cup of coffee and take shots through the windows.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:28:54   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
AzShooter1 wrote:
I can't believe people go out when it's below 40.

WIMPS. I was just out in ball bustin' bone chillin' 34°f/1°C! But no hat and I got brain freeze.

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Dec 27, 2017 13:36:14   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
OddJobber wrote:
WIMPS. I was just out in ball bustin' bone chillin' 34°f/1°C! But no hat and I got brain freeze.


LOL, was -14 here yesterday morning, with a -36 wind chill factor. Went fishing!

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