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Dec 20, 2017 06:54:28   #
AndyT Loc: Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Preachdude wrote:
Photography has been my hobby for more than six decades. When I began phasing in digital, I had to learn to use LCD displays. The early ones were painfully tiny, but even the larger ones can be frustrating in sunlight. I have learned to appreciate having exposure data in the viewfinder, and I see it as an improvement over live displays. Over the years, I've used cameras from most manufacturers. In recent years, I've rented equipment when going on vacation, but as my eyes have gotten older, the importance of good viewfinders and displays has become more important.

When I rented a Nikon D800e, I was very disappointed in the viewfinder. I was also disappointed in the viewfinder of the Sony RX1r. The viewfinder of the Sony A6000 was pretty good. I have not rented a Canon in the last few years.

What do UHH readers say? How do you like the viewfinders of such cameras as the Sony A6500 or the Sony RX100iv, particularly in bright sunlight? Are there good viewfinders with Panasonic, Canon, and Nikon? Do you have to press the viewfinder to your eye so much in sunlight that you get eye sweat on it? Is your viewfinder clear and bright? Does your nose get sore when you press your camera to your face?

Is there an Internet URL where the viewfinders of various cameras are compared?
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Fuji X-T2.

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Dec 20, 2017 09:11:44   #
Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa
 
As a relative beginner compared to many folks here, I am still using my very first DSLR, so I never knew there was much difference in viewfinders. I thought they were pretty much all alike, but recently I’ve been considering moving up to a Canon 80D, so I tried one out a couple weeks ago and was amazed at the difference between it and my T3i. Even though I’ve since read that the T3i viewfinder covers 95% of the image and the 80D viewfinder covers 100%, that 5% difference is amazing in actual usage.

Walt

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Dec 20, 2017 09:17:10   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Whuff wrote:
As a relative beginner compared to many folks here, I am still using my very first DSLR, so I never knew there was much difference in viewfinders. I thought they were pretty much all alike, but recently I’ve been considering moving up to a Canon 80D, so I tried one out a couple weeks ago and was amazed at the difference between it and my T3i. Even though I’ve since read that the T3i viewfinder covers 95% of the image and the 80D viewfinder covers 100%, that 5% difference is amazing in actual usage.

Walt
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Next time you are in a camera store, check out some of the bigger viewfinders. Gh5, G9, Fuji’s Medium Format camera or some of the new Sony A7 series.

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Dec 20, 2017 09:50:16   #
Thruxton Loc: Indiana / California
 
I rarely refer to the LCD due to the fade out many of you complain about. One of the most useful EVF's is the Sony accessory on my NEX 5. It is big, bright and fully functional but unlike those in the camera body, it tilts from horizontal to nearly vertical. I never take it off regardless of where, when or what I'm shooting.

But if the LCD displays are so generally useless as implied here, why can't manufacturers come up with a better alternative? Some of us use hoods or gymnastics if we wish to avoid or otherwise cannot use the viewfinder on the camera but that's mostly an accommodation.

Personally I would encourage the development of a small monocle device that uses the camera WIFI connection to remotely display the scene. The monocle would (after adapting) allow the user to view the camera image while continuing to see the surroundings regardless of lighting conditions. I understand that some photographers with certain vision limitations or the use of only one eye would not be able to take advantage of this technology but I believe many would find it quite useful. In the meantime we seem to be stuck with LCD's that are useless too much of the time.

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Dec 20, 2017 10:23:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Thruxton wrote:
I rarely refer to the LCD due to the fade out many of you complain about. One of the most useful EVF's is the Sony accessory on my NEX 5. It is big, bright and fully functional but unlike those in the camera body, it tilts from horizontal to nearly vertical. I never take it off regardless of where, when or what I'm shooting.

But if the LCD displays are so generally useless as implied here, why can't manufacturers come up with a better alternative? Some of us use hoods or gymnastics if we wish to avoid or otherwise cannot use the viewfinder on the camera but that's mostly an accommodation.

Personally I would encourage the development of a small monocle device that uses the camera WIFI connection to remotely display the scene. The monocle would (after adapting) allow the user to view the camera image while continuing to see the surroundings regardless of lighting conditions. I understand that some photographers with certain vision limitations or the use of only one eye would not be able to take advantage of this technology but I believe many would find it quite useful. In the meantime we seem to be stuck with LCD's that are useless too much of the time.
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Maybe those who can’t see the rear lcd are older citizens and their eyesight may not be optimal.

I have no issues with the rear screen when I have to use it.

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Dec 20, 2017 10:27:18   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
Preachdude wrote:
Photography has been my hobby for more than six decades. When I began phasing in digital, I had to learn to use LCD displays. The early ones were painfully tiny, but even the larger ones can be frustrating in sunlight. I have learned to appreciate having exposure data in the viewfinder, and I see it as an improvement over live displays. Over the years, I've used cameras from most manufacturers. In recent years, I've rented equipment when going on vacation, but as my eyes have gotten older, the importance of good viewfinders and displays has become more important.

When I rented a Nikon D800e, I was very disappointed in the viewfinder. I was also disappointed in the viewfinder of the Sony RX1r. The viewfinder of the Sony A6000 was pretty good. I have not rented a Canon in the last few years.

What do UHH readers say? How do you like the viewfinders of such cameras as the Sony A6500 or the Sony RX100iv, particularly in bright sunlight? Are there good viewfinders with Panasonic, Canon, and Nikon? Do you have to press the viewfinder to your eye so much in sunlight that you get eye sweat on it? Is your viewfinder clear and bright? Does your nose get sore when you press your camera to your face?

Is there an Internet URL where the viewfinders of various cameras are compared?
Photography has been my hobby for more than six de... (show quote)


I'm sure you remember the 4x5 cameras with their black focusing cloth. Well I had my wife sew me one to use for my digital photography. The only problem is that now even with glasses I have to move a little farther back to be able to better see the screen. I don't use it for every shot needless to say but it sure makes it so much easier to check for critical focusing. I shoot Canon and don't seem to have the problems you are referring to. The only so called problem for me is that Canon has moved the light meter from the bottom to the vertical position on the right side and it's not so visible as it was on the bottom. The viewfinder is plenty bright enough, I use this setup only to be able to see the LCD screen in very bright sunlight and it works great for LV.

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Dec 20, 2017 12:10:11   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
I have looked at them all and I will stay with my DSLR through the lens viewfinder, I haven't seen an LCD viewfinder yet that comes close to a through the lens viewfinder.

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Dec 20, 2017 12:54:16   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Hey, Dng, when you did cataracts did they do one eye at a time. In between did you notice the color difference between each eye. I noticed a big difference when I got implants years ago. Did others remark that what you thought were whites in picures were yellowish to them. I went from heavy and strong bifocals to much much thinner glasses. That alone greatly simplified VF use. Tell us more your experiences.

Dngallagher wrote:
I prefer viewfinder to LCD, going thru cataracts on my eyes I added a Hoodman eye cup to my Nikon which helped tremendously to help, eventually I learned to shoot with the viewfinder using either eye when one eye was worse, since cataracts were removed and I switched to Canon, I could not be without the eye cup from Hoodman, it keeps light out of the viewfinder and your nose away from the screen, and makes the viewfinder brighter due to less light around your eye

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Dec 20, 2017 13:47:02   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Preachdude wrote:
Photography has been my hobby for more than six decades. When I began phasing in digital, I had to learn to use LCD displays. The early ones were painfully tiny, but even the larger ones can be frustrating in sunlight. I have learned to appreciate having exposure data in the viewfinder, and I see it as an improvement over live displays. Over the years, I've used cameras from most manufacturers. In recent years, I've rented equipment when going on vacation, but as my eyes have gotten older, the importance of good viewfinders and displays has become more important.

When I rented a Nikon D800e, I was very disappointed in the viewfinder. I was also disappointed in the viewfinder of the Sony RX1r. The viewfinder of the Sony A6000 was pretty good. I have not rented a Canon in the last few years.

What do UHH readers say? How do you like the viewfinders of such cameras as the Sony A6500 or the Sony RX100iv, particularly in bright sunlight? Are there good viewfinders with Panasonic, Canon, and Nikon? Do you have to press the viewfinder to your eye so much in sunlight that you get eye sweat on it? Is your viewfinder clear and bright? Does your nose get sore when you press your camera to your face?

Is there an Internet URL where the viewfinders of various cameras are compared?
Photography has been my hobby for more than six de... (show quote)

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I like my Sony a99II's Viewfinder.
I only use the viewfinder & not the Screen except to take a picture with my camera held high above my head or down near the ground.
I like having the Preview button to show depth of field when I need it.

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Dec 20, 2017 14:41:13   #
SteveLew Loc: Sugar Land, TX
 
After shooting Nikon camera for many years and now shoot Fuji. The view finder of my Nikon gear was sometimes difficult to see and by holding my hat to block out the sun the situation was tolerable. With the Fuji XT2 and I would imagine with other mirrorless cameras all the information, along with the histogram is in the viewfinder and adjustments to shutter speed, aperture and exposure compensation each has a separate dial on the top of the body and can be adjustment very quickly. The view finder of the Fuji is extremely bright and sun does not bother this view finder.

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Dec 20, 2017 15:15:18   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Preachdude wrote:
Photography has been my hobby for more than six decades. When I began phasing in digital, I had to learn to use LCD displays. The early ones were painfully tiny, but even the larger ones can be frustrating in sunlight. I have learned to appreciate having exposure data in the viewfinder, and I see it as an improvement over live displays. Over the years, I've used cameras from most manufacturers. In recent years, I've rented equipment when going on vacation, but as my eyes have gotten older, the importance of good viewfinders and displays has become more important.

When I rented a Nikon D800e, I was very disappointed in the viewfinder. I was also disappointed in the viewfinder of the Sony RX1r. The viewfinder of the Sony A6000 was pretty good. I have not rented a Canon in the last few years.

What do UHH readers say? How do you like the viewfinders of such cameras as the Sony A6500 or the Sony RX100iv, particularly in bright sunlight? Are there good viewfinders with Panasonic, Canon, and Nikon? Do you have to press the viewfinder to your eye so much in sunlight that you get eye sweat on it? Is your viewfinder clear and bright? Does your nose get sore when you press your camera to your face?

Is there an Internet URL where the viewfinders of various cameras are compared?
Photography has been my hobby for more than six de... (show quote)


Sony A77II -VF- ROCKS ......I use a rubber eyecup to block extraneous light and fore head stabilizer in the hotshoe - keeps my face OFF the back of the camera !

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Dec 20, 2017 15:16:05   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Expand your limited universe, Preachdude. Check out the hybrid (live view/EVF) viewfinders on cameras by Fujifilm.


Fuji view is simply beautiful!

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Dec 20, 2017 18:10:11   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Preachdude wrote:
Photography has been my hobby for more than six decades. When I began phasing in digital, I had to learn to use LCD displays. The early ones were painfully tiny, but even the larger ones can be frustrating in sunlight. I have learned to appreciate having exposure data in the viewfinder, and I see it as an improvement over live displays. Over the years, I've used cameras from most manufacturers. In recent years, I've rented equipment when going on vacation, but as my eyes have gotten older, the importance of good viewfinders and displays has become more important.

When I rented a Nikon D800e, I was very disappointed in the viewfinder. I was also disappointed in the viewfinder of the Sony RX1r. The viewfinder of the Sony A6000 was pretty good. I have not rented a Canon in the last few years.

What do UHH readers say? How do you like the viewfinders of such cameras as the Sony A6500 or the Sony RX100iv, particularly in bright sunlight? Are there good viewfinders with Panasonic, Canon, and Nikon? Do you have to press the viewfinder to your eye so much in sunlight that you get eye sweat on it? Is your viewfinder clear and bright? Does your nose get sore when you press your camera to your face?

Is there an Internet URL where the viewfinders of various cameras are compared?
Photography has been my hobby for more than six de... (show quote)


I use and like the viewfinder on both the Nikon D7100 and the D7200.

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Dec 20, 2017 18:14:25   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
EM1ii viewfinder rocks...one of the better ones out there (so is the XT-2, GH5, and some of the latest Sony offerings).

E-M5 II viewfinder is also good. I'll actually use it once in a while, and I hate viewfinders.

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Dec 20, 2017 19:56:14   #
le boecere
 
rook2c4 wrote:
An advantage with (non-DSLR) cameras that have the viewfinder off to the side rather than in the middle is that your nose does not need to touch the camera at all while your eye is on the viewfinder.



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