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Dec 18, 2017 15:13:02   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
As the economy grows dependable workers become scarce and employers have to pay them more... Just like any other commodity, when there is growth there is greater demand on the labor pool and wages go up.


As technology improves jobs become scarce. Take for example the local supermarket. Since the advent of self-service checkouts, you now only need one person to oversee ten checkouts. That's nine people out of a job. Do you really believe that the boss is going to employ an additional nine people to oversee one each, no matter how much he gets in tax breaks?

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Dec 18, 2017 15:18:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
Wellhiem wrote:
As technology improves jobs become scarce. Take for example the local supermarket. Since the advent of self-service checkouts, you now only need one person to oversee ten checkouts. That's nine people out of a job. Do you really believe that the boss is going to employ an additional nine people to oversee one each, no matter how much he gets in tax breaks?


You are forgetting the other side of that coin. As technology improves and replaces low paying jobs, it improves higher paying technical jobs as well. After all, those new technological devices need to be built and maintained by personal that need to be employed.

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Dec 18, 2017 15:31:24   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are forgetting the other side of that coin. As technology improves and replaces low paying jobs, it improves higher paying technical jobs as well. After all, those new technological devices need to be built and maintained by personal that need to be employed.


That's not quite the case. Those machines that need to be built and maintained are increasingly being built and maintained by other machines. Whereas in the past, you may have had, say, fifty skilled people working in a factory you now have one skilled person writing a programme for fifty machines, and one or maybe two unskilled people watching over them in case they have to hit the emergency stop button..

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Dec 18, 2017 16:11:13   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Your employer was gracious enough to share his increase profits with you, and that’s great. But not all employers do as yours did.
Generally speaking, employers are not concerned with improving the economy, nor should they be. Employers are concerned with increasing their profits.
You can cite all the examples you want, such as your employer, or Apple. But in general, history shows that big business is solely concerned with increasing profits. Take away all the regulations, unions, federal oversight and they will do everything within their power to make more money for themselves, at whatever cost. And to placate the masses, they will trickle down a little. As long as it profits them. Show me an employer that hires without gaining from it and I’ll show you a soon to be unemployed fool.
You can’t compare the 21st century economic market with that of nearly 100 years ago. Globalization has made things much, much different.
Unfortunately, our prosperity heretofore is now working against us. There are many parts of the world where labor is much less expensive than our own. Shipping and transportation have improved to the point where it’s less of a deterrent to competitive importation.
If you want to cut taxes, great, but don’t do it at the expense of the lower and middle-class. Why are the corporate taxes permanent whereas the income tax cut is temporary and will be reduced over the years? Don’t give me the bullshit ‘need to plan’ argument, families need to plan too.

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Dec 18, 2017 17:55:14   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Wellhiem wrote:
As technology improves jobs become scarce. Take for example the local supermarket. Since the advent of self-service checkouts, you now only need one person to oversee ten checkouts. That's nine people out of a job. Do you really believe that the boss is going to employ an additional nine people to oversee one each, no matter how much he gets in tax breaks?


That is what they said about the loom, and the textile industry exploded and soon was employing far more people than prior to the loom... Look Wellhiem, none of us know where technology will take us, heck, if I live another 25 years I may become a socialist, but our society is not there yet and the profit motive has done more to move mankind and the common man forward than all the governments in the world combined.

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Dec 18, 2017 18:08:51   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
That is what they said about the loom, and the textile industry exploded and soon was employing far more people than prior to the loom... Look Wellhiem, none of us know where technology will take us, heck, if I live another 25 years I may become a socialist, but our society is not there yet and the profit motive has done more to move mankind and the common man forward than all the governments in the world combined.


Socialism may not be necessary yet. But, in my opinion, it is inevitable. Not only that but also a single world government. That's why I think we should be starting to adopt it now before it becomes necessary so we can get it right when the time comes. I wouldn't be too sure about 25 years, technology moves at an exponential rate. Look at flight. After we had been trying to achieve powered flight for hundreds if not thousands of years, the Wright brothers achieved it in 1903, 66 years later, we flew to the Moon and back.

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Dec 18, 2017 18:29:10   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Wellhiem wrote:
Socialism may not be necessary yet. But, in my opinion, it is inevitable. Not only that but also a single world government. That's why I think we should be starting to adopt it now before it becomes necessary so we can get it right when the time comes. I wouldn't be too sure about 25 years, technology moves at an exponential rate. Look at flight. After we had been trying to achieve powered flight for hundreds if not thousands of years, the Wright brothers achieved it in 1903, 66 years later, we flew to the Moon and back.
Socialism may not be necessary yet. But, in my opi... (show quote)


Well, when the time comes I will join your side, socialism that is, as long as you don't ask me to give up my personal freedoms... Somehow I don't see that ever happening, progressives have a need for control, and so will world government.

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Dec 18, 2017 19:30:35   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
Frank T wrote:
I'm surprised you bring that up. What with that Reagan theory on trickle-down economics, I'd think you'd be thrilled that there were rich people so you could feed off their crumbs.
Want to know what really works? Study the Eisenhower administration.


You implied that it only helped wealthy Republicans. That's not true. It also helps wealthy Democrats.

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Dec 18, 2017 19:35:43   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
When you see posts such as yours, that is liberal education at work.


Oh in the face of overwhelming forces, you drop your rifle and run........

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Dec 18, 2017 19:38:08   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Well, when the time comes I will join your side, socialism that is, as long as you don't ask me to give up my personal freedoms... Somehow I don't see that ever happening, progressives have a need for control, and so will world government.


You prefer a Kingdom with peasants that can be controlled with food I see. The King is doing all he can to control EVERYTHING, Executive, Judicial and the Legislative. Just ask him.

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Dec 18, 2017 20:00:49   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
You prefer a Kingdom with peasants that can be controlled with food I see. The King is doing all he can to control EVERYTHING, Executive, Judicial and the Legislative. Just ask him.


You must be talking about Obama because he was one who pushed against the boundaries of our constitution, Trump so far has done nothing to even bring into question the constitutionality of his actions... Look Mikey, you are way over your head and maybe it is that you are delirious with hate I don't know but there is absolutely zero rationality to your arguments.

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Dec 18, 2017 20:04:24   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
You must be talking about Obama because he was one who pushed against the boundaries of our constitution, Trump so far has done nothing to even bring into question the constitutionality of his actions... Look Mikey, you are way over your head and maybe it is that you are delirious with hate I don't know but there is absolutely zero rationality to your arguments.


You are hilarious!!!!! Obama allowed his cabinet members to represent him, Trump cuts down and minimizes all his minions. See Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson for starters. If I am over my head, you obviously have your head about 6 feet up your arse!

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Dec 18, 2017 20:15:00   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
You are hilarious!!!!! Obama allowed his cabinet members to represent him, Trump cuts down and minimizes all his minions. See Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson for starters. If I am over my head, you obviously have your head about 6 feet up your arse!


Your comments no longer transition with a point of reference, you were talking as if Trump was a self appointed King abandoning our constitution, now you seemingly have moved on to jibberish.. Maybe you should consider laying off the bottle.

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Dec 18, 2017 20:16:45   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Your comments no longer transition with a point of reference, you were talking as if Trump was a self appointed King abandoning our constitution, now you seemingly have moved on to jibberish.. Maybe you should consider laying off the bottle.


Boom, you have now been sunk :) You just don't want to face the facts. Trump is spinning around the bowl and about to be FLUSHED!

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Dec 18, 2017 20:17:42   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
You are hilarious!!!!! Obama allowed his cabinet members to represent him, Trump cuts down and minimizes all his minions. See Jeff Sessions, Rex Tillerson for starters. If I am over my head, you obviously have your head about 6 feet up your arse!


So, tell me was Obama's DACA EO constitutional?

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