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Dec 17, 2017 07:29:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Didn't Leica make hoods with holes in them?


Yes, but they apologized and issued a recall.

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Dec 17, 2017 07:37:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, that is frustrating, but I reach inside with a finger and rotate the filter. There are lens hoods with little doors that let you reach in from the side. If you have a Dremel tool, you can cut a little opening.



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Dec 17, 2017 07:47:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
fourlocks wrote:
Okay here's a rather sophomoric question I'm hoping there's an easy answer for. I like having a circular polarizer on my Nikon (18 - 200mm lens) but I also want to keep the lens hood on. Trouble is, once the lens hood snaps into place, it's impossible to rotate the polarizer because the hood covers the filter's rotating ring. Am I missing some easy way around this or do I have to choose one or the other?


The sony 100-400 has a movable slot in the hood that, when a filter is attached, allows the user to slide open the slot and rotate the filter.

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Dec 17, 2017 08:00:18   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
MT Shooter wrote:
A solution I have used for more than 40 years. This isn't rocket science here folks.

It appears we are wrong, it is Rocket Science

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Dec 17, 2017 08:38:37   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
fourlocks wrote:
Okay here's a rather sophomoric question I'm hoping there's an easy answer for. I like having a circular polarizer on my Nikon (18 - 200mm lens) but I also want to keep the lens hood on. Trouble is, once the lens hood snaps into place, it's impossible to rotate the polarizer because the hood covers the filter's rotating ring. Am I missing some easy way around this or do I have to choose one or the other?


Is something amiss? My lens hood does not interfere with my CP or ND or any filter. Is there an alternate or better lens hood available.

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Dec 17, 2017 08:39:12   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Because I prefer to use round metal hoods on all my lenses - the preference being for protection and staying on the lens 24/7 - and capping the hood when not in use - I will super glue an adapter ring to the FRONT of the hood. Then the polarizer screws into the adapter ring and turns freely and a standard plastic cap can be used to cap the hood when not in use.

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Dec 17, 2017 09:02:06   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Get a screw-on lens hood that you screw onto polarizer. Then you just turn the entire hood. Very easy. I’ve been doing it for decades now. Be sure to get into the habit of turning the hood counter-clockwise to prevent accidentally unscrewing polarizer as you work.

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Dec 17, 2017 09:23:20   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Shoot the polarizer without the hood on. Modern coatings are very good to control reflections...unless shooting into the sun.

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Dec 17, 2017 09:51:36   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I never take the hood off, and frequently use a polarizer. I can simply put my finger on the front of the rim of the filter and turn it. You do not have to grip it by the side to do so. Works.

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Dec 17, 2017 10:29:02   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I never take the hood off, and frequently use a polarizer. I can simply put my finger on the front of the rim of the filter and turn it. You do not have to grip it by the side to do so. Works.
I set/rotate the filter before I put the hood on. I rarely need to change the amount of polarization after that. To verify that the filter is still properly set, just look through the viewfinder and rotate the camera. To tweak, just poke my in and rotate the filter to fine tune.

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Dec 17, 2017 10:41:39   #
bedouin Loc: Big Bend area, Texas
 
All modern era Pentax lenses-both APSC and FF have a built in rectangle built in at the bottom of their hoods. But if one has fat fingers, it is still difficult to turn the polarizer.Also remember that a polarizer also blocks stray light well.

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Dec 17, 2017 11:23:58   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
fourlocks wrote:
Okay here's a rather sophomoric question I'm hoping there's an easy answer for. I like having a circular polarizer on my Nikon (18 - 200mm lens) but I also want to keep the lens hood on. Trouble is, once the lens hood snaps into place, it's impossible to rotate the polarizer because the hood covers the filter's rotating ring. Am I missing some easy way around this or do I have to choose one or the other?


1. Always use the hood. They're intended for use 100% of the time.

2. Remove the circular polarizer, then only re-install and use it when it actually will serve it's purpose reducing reflections, deepening the blue sky, etc. Depending upon what you photograph, a C-Pol is probably appropriate to use about 20 or 25% of the time, at most. Maybe a lot less. Even though it's the most useful of filters in the age of digital photography, there are many times when a C-Pol SHOULDN'T be used. For example, they absorb a lot of light... one to two stops worth. So leaving one on a lens too much.... particularly a telephoto that's already only f/5.6 at best... can make you use too slow shutter speeds and/or too high an ISO. Another example, when directly shooting a sunset or sunrise (or other extremely strong light source) NO FILTER should be used. In that situation, even the very best, multi-coated layers of glass will increase flare, reducing contrast and color saturation. And because a C-Pol has multiple layers of glass, it's one of the worst of all to use when photographing a sunrise/sunset or similar.

3. When using the C-Pol and needing to adjust the polarizer, temporarily remove the hood. Then replace the hood to take the photo.

A round lens hood that screws into the front of the filter is an option... allowing the entire assembly to be rotated to adjust the filter... BUT NOT IN THIS CASE. With a very wide ranging (10X +), "do-everything-even-if-none-of-it-particularly-well" zoom like an 18-200mm, you'd have to use a round hood that matches the 18mm end and does a terrible job shading the 200mm end of the range. A screw-in lens hood will usually work best with a prime instead of a zoom.... or with a telephoto to telephoto zoom like a 70-200, 100-400, etc. Screw-in hoods also usually don't reverse over a lens for convenient storage the way most bayonet mount hoods do. And, metal hoods in particular don't do as good job protecting a lens, transfer more of the shock of a drop or bump directly to the barrel of the lens... where a high impact plastic hood can absorb some of the shock and might even break away in worst cases.

It may be possible to cut a small "window" in the underside of the hood, to be able to rotate the filter. HOWEVER, keep in mind that any time you re-postion the camera and lens to vertical/portrait orientation, any window cut into the hood will no longer be on the underside, so keep it small. Lens hoods designed with this type of window usually have a sliding "door" or cover of some sort for the little window. (Otherwise I don't see much point citing Pentax and Sony lenses... which don't help the OP very much. Is he supposed to dump his Nikon gear and change brands? )

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Dec 17, 2017 12:03:42   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
fourlocks wrote:
Okay here's a rather sophomoric question I'm hoping there's an easy answer for. I like having a circular polarizer on my Nikon (18 - 200mm lens) but I also want to keep the lens hood on. Trouble is, once the lens hood snaps into place, it's impossible to rotate the polarizer because the hood covers the filter's rotating ring. Am I missing some easy way around this or do I have to choose one or the other?


Look in Ebay or wherever you "shop" for one made for your camera or a generic brand. You can also look for several hoods that already have a slot made just for that reason. *(as in the case of my factory Pentax lens)

Nikon type:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-screw-lens-hood-HN-13-for-72mm-circular-polarizing-filter/253288888469?epid=691453171&hash=item3af931b895:g:7z8AAOSwl2haIXDg

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Dec 17, 2017 12:45:31   #
Ricker Loc: Salt Lake City, Utah
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Which will promptly defeat the purpose of a lens hood by allowing stray light onto the lens.

Just adjust the CPL then install the hood.


I have noticed over the past months that your answers to questions about photography are succinct and always correct. Just wanted you to know that there are folks who pay attention to your responses.
Best regards, Ricker

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Dec 17, 2017 13:02:12   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Which will promptly defeat the purpose of a lens hood by allowing stray light onto the lens.

Just adjust the CPL then install the hood.

... or make the hole on the bottom of the hood where it will be shaded by the lens and blocked by the left hand.

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