I personally find the post-processing work to be almost as much fun and fulfilling as the taking of the photos. The more I learn the more fun it becomes. RAW images straight out of the camera are dull and lifeless. They absolutely require post-processing work to make them vibrant and alive. In my opinion, if you do not take the time to learn some competent post-processing steps, you will never get the most out of your expensive camera equipment.
Why pigeonhole it? Photography, art, vision, purpose, emotion, end result, desire...they're all part of the mix, whether you are a PP maniac or shoot to kill right out of the camera. Van Gogh made no claim to realism in his artistic vision, but da Vinci did...so which is better? I paint on a digital canvas and strive to recreate the emotion and ambience of the particular subject I am shooting - and if PP helps me do that, then I will use it. If it doesn't, I won't. But it usually does! :-)
SalvageDiver wrote:
Photography is an art. There are as many art styles as there are people on this earth. It's just the medium and the tools available to the artist that continues to evolve. I think that SOOC, is so so restrictive. They just let the camera engineers do their PP for them and take what they get.
Some will reference photojournalist as being pure, SOOC and non-manipulated. IMO, images by photojournalist can be highly manipulated, just in a different way. Too often, they present stories in images that are highly biased or just false. How many times have we seen a news reporter standing waist deep in water after a storm, describing the devastation all around. Only later do you see someones cellphone video on YouTube of that same reporter standing is a small puddle with cars driving by, people out walking their dogs or out doing yard work just outside the view of the reporters camera? Or the massive riot where the photographer gets down low, surrounding himself with 10 or 20 tightly grouped angry people and the editor picking the most dramatic photo to publish?. Only later you might see on YouTube just a few agitated people acting out for the camera with a few bystanders standing around watching the commotion. Even photojournalist images can are highly manipulated.
Someone on this blog said, "whatever floats you boat" is so true. For every person that dislikes your PP, there will likely be just as many that do. Just as with any other art form, you'll never please everyone and photography is just another art form. No matter what you do, there will be someone who will enjoy your work.
Just go out and have fun with your photography.
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Have fun taking pictures. You are a photographer, not an artist.
SalvageDiver wrote:
Photography is an art. There are as many art styles as there are people on this earth. It's just the medium and the tools available to the artist that continues to evolve. I think that SOOC, is so so restrictive. They just let the camera engineers do their PP for them and take what they get.
Some will reference photojournalist as being pure, SOOC and non-manipulated. IMO, images by photojournalist can be highly manipulated, just in a different way. Too often, they present stories in images that are highly biased or just false. How many times have we seen a news reporter standing waist deep in water after a storm, describing the devastation all around. Only later do you see someones cellphone video on YouTube of that same reporter standing is a small puddle with cars driving by, people out walking their dogs or out doing yard work just outside the view of the reporters camera? Or the massive riot where the photographer gets down low, surrounding himself with 10 or 20 tightly grouped angry people and the editor picking the most dramatic photo to publish?. Only later you might see on YouTube just a few agitated people acting out for the camera with a few bystanders standing around watching the commotion. Even photojournalist images can are highly manipulated.
Someone on this blog said, "whatever floats you boat" is so true. For every person that dislikes your PP, there will likely be just as many that do. Just as with any other art form, you'll never please everyone and photography is just another art form. No matter what you do, there will be someone who will enjoy your work.
Just go out and have fun with your photography.
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Photojournalist are a whole different ball of wax. They operate under a specific set of restrictions. Restrictions that I, personally, find silly. Reporters, who supposedly are charged with reporting the "facts", are allowed a lot more latitude in how the "choose" the "facts" they include. While a photographer can crop a picture to fit the page or get rid of a distracting piece of paper floating by, BUT they cannot "manipulate" the piece of paper in the background. The reporter, however, can report that person "X" did "Y" to "Z" but leave out that "Z" was trying to do "R" to "W" at the same time.
Yankeepapa6 wrote:
Have fun taking pictures. You are a photographer, not an artist.
Art history does, in fact, tell us that photographers are indeed artists; photographers in the 20s and 30s worked hard to make this happen for those of us who take photography seriously today (this does not make reference to family snapshots or snapshot-shooters). It is a shame for any serious photographer today to believe that photography is not among the arts. Additionally, many of our country's museums, and the museum's in other countries as well, would be surprised to know that photographers are not artists.
via the lens wrote:
Art history does, in fact, tell us that photographers are indeed artists; photographers in the 20s and 30s worked hard to make this happen for those of us who take photography seriously today (this does not make reference to family snapshots or snapshot-shooters). It is a shame for any serious photographer today to believe that photography is not among the arts. Additionally, many of our country's museums, and the museum's in other countries as well, would be surprised to know that photographers are not artists.
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I am reluctant to accept the work the photographer at the driver's license center does as art. Photography can be art, but isn't always art.
Any thoughts on removal of power/telephone lines in travel pictures?
rook2c4 wrote:
I am reluctant to accept the work the photographer at the driver's license center does as art. Photography can be art, but isn't always art.
I think I made that clear by referring to snap-shot shooters; don't be ridiculous in your interpretation of what I said.
Frayud wrote:
Any thoughts on removal of power/telephone lines in travel pictures?
Sure. Why not? Unless it is being used to advertise wide open natural places to visit. But to achieve your artistic vision, sure.
Frayud wrote:
Any thoughts on removal of power/telephone lines in travel pictures?
If it advances your vision for the image, absolutely. If you are going for pure realism, then no. If you want a documentary record of your travels, then you probably want to leave everything in the image that was there at the time of capture. If you want to enhance that record to more closely comport with what you envisioned at the time, take them out. In short, it's your image, your vision, so make and keep it your own, whatever you decide.
Frayud wrote:
Any thoughts on removal of power/telephone lines in travel pictures?
If you are shooting for an assignment you would want to check with that company about this. If I am shooting this type of thing for myself and the lines can be removed without any after-effect they are gone! MacPhun Snapheal is good for this as is Photoshop.
I live in the east and travel out west once a year to visit my son and photograph landscapes and wildlife. Where I live, birds and foxes are about the only wildlife I'm able to find and landscapes are not as rewarding as in the west. So I go west and photograph on the way, then visit my son, and then photograph on the way home. The processing I do is to render clearly what I saw in the scene that attracted me. And I sometimes do panos.
I see no reason to question any processing that others do. In fact, I usually appreciate the results that others post no matter how they have altered the original file.
I do whatever it requires to make a winner. From simple adjustment of contrast and exposure to a dozen or more layers in Photoshop.
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
Looks like it was taken on the Island of Sodor.
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