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Jul 14, 2012 06:34:32   #
Shakey Loc: Traveling again to Norway and other places.
 
I'm a member of the 'be polite school'. I like to see constructive criticism on these pages, we all learn something by being here. However, I squirm when a newbie is hit with a bunch of jargon that creates more confusion than help. When a member posts a photograph that is full of faults, that person is probably a newbie. Let's treat that would-be photographer to easy-to-follow explanations laced with a little kindness. (Something which many experienced members do.) Technical knowledge is great when used by our peers, but tech stuff is jargon to a newbie and way over their head. There are many knowledgeable people here but it's not necessary to prove it for your own self satisfaction. OK, I'll get off my high horse now.

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Jul 14, 2012 06:47:32   #
happy-clicker
 
For me constructive criticism would be the best but in a friendly manner, that is how we hopefully move forward in our learning

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Jul 14, 2012 07:39:42   #
AdkHiker Loc: Northeast
 
Hang around you will meet the other side of the coin

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Jul 14, 2012 07:40:09   #
konica135 Loc: Ormond Beach, FL
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
pappy0352 wrote:
I just bought my first DSLR and stated taking photography serious abut 5 months ago. When I post a shot I'm looking for honest feedback. Being told what is wrong or how I could improve is the only way I will get better. This site gives me a free education that would cost me big dollars if I were to go to school. So as I learn and post shots in the future please feel free give me feedback good or constructive.
If you seek constructive criticism & comment (C&C), post in the Photo Analysis forum.
If you want a pat on the head, post in the Photo Gallery forum.
quote=pappy0352 I just bought my first DSLR and s... (show quote)


Maybe the word "critique" is the problem. It should be removed from the purpose of Photo Gallery and put in Photo Analysis

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Jul 14, 2012 07:47:58   #
dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.
 
The whole thing is so subjective. I may like a photo that 10 other folks wouldn't look at twice and vice versa. I don't consider myself well enough qualified to knock anyone's efforts. If I like a photo it has more to do with subject matter and its presentation than a bunch of technical hoopla. No offense to them as like the technical stuff. So if a photo is posted and I like it I will say so, and if I don't I won't say anything. I stay away from the C & C because I don't feel qualified to comment. I will leave that to them as know what they are talking about.

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Jul 14, 2012 07:54:58   #
rlaugh Loc: Michigan & Florida
 
You all are making very good points so I guess its what we feel comfortable with. I take issue with people critizing peoples work and when you look up the critizers post they are crap!! Some think it makes them appear to be an expert if they find fault with someone elses work! Also laugh at the ones on here who are always "making your pic look better" and they usually look worse! I very seldom say anything bad about someones pics, if I think they are really bad I move on. If I think they were really working to get a good pic,I will leave a good comment. If they are just throwing up snap shots I usually ignor them. I always try to help anyone who asks for my help. I've walked people through things through P.M's,restored photos for others,also given links to certain actions they can download. My main goal is to learn, help someone else if I can, and above all else have fun. If you don't like a little fun,don't read my posts!!

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Jul 14, 2012 08:13:31   #
sunsacre Loc: Western Minnesota
 
I couldn't agree more. Choice of words and how they are presented has more impact than most people realize. Critique can always be passed on without making the person feel bad. But then there are people who have thicker skins than others. Just a thought



Victoria1233 wrote:
I think the whole issue is learning how to write on the internet (as opposed to talking face to face in the real world). I can type a comment with a warm friendly smile on my face, but the receiver of my comment can't see my face.

if someone wants a critique give them one, but start your opening paragraph without something nice like "Interesting image" or "Nice image, but may I suggest that you..............".

I've found on another forum I belong to, that it's your last sentence in your comment that the viewer remembers and gains an idea of what type of person you are, so be nice. I keep forgetting........ but..... there are smilies or emoticoms to soften your words too. Use a 'smilie' or the words 'big grin' to let viewer know your are joking or have a smile on your face.

There are ways of phrasing your sentences on the internet to get the point made without being abrupt, rude or negative. You can write negative comments in a Positive way.

One needs to keep in mind that you don't know the personal circumstances of the 'newcomer'. For example......you don't know that I have constant pain, fatigue, serious health problems, am very short-sighted & have had back surgery which makes me stiff, so I can't often 'get down low' to shoot a subject. Some days my heart condition mean I'm exhausted and huffing & puffing so much I can't hold the camera still. I have a short term memory problem, so can't remember instructions or 'how to' do certain things.

Always be mindful that in being honest, make that honesty constructive (not DEstructive).

And please don't say a photo is fantastic, amazing, stunning, if it clearly is not. That is not helpful.

Just say something ordinary if you want to encourage a new photographer. Find something in the photo to encourage the new photography hobbyist. If a person posts 3 photos and 2 are lousy, just say you think 'the third photo is lovely, but the other 2 photos are a bit too dark - perhaps you could improve them by ........'

Yep, it's all in the way your write.
I think the whole issue is learning how to write o... (show quote)


:) :)

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Jul 14, 2012 08:17:29   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
What I learned was "If you cna't say something nice, it's better to say nothing at all." I also learned that "Honesty is the best policy!"

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Jul 14, 2012 08:38:58   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
I have shown my prints to others and they would comment on how great my pictures are and I'd think to myself, "really?" I can find fault in my own pictures that others cannot seem to see. A pat on the back may encourage me but it dose not make me a better photographer.

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Jul 14, 2012 08:40:07   #
Georgia Peddler Loc: Brunswick, GA
 
Good call

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Jul 14, 2012 09:36:16   #
chebe48 Loc: Leicestershire England
 
Agree completly

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Jul 14, 2012 09:50:07   #
Spodeworld
 
I prefer honesty, or the feedback is useless.

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Jul 14, 2012 09:51:17   #
portcragin Loc: Kirkland, WA
 
The object is to not offend. Often I will look at the picture, analyse it and say to myself "what's wrong with it and how could I have made it better" and then compliment the picture taker. Remember photography is A LOT SUBJECTIVE. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder......

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Jul 14, 2012 09:58:11   #
Kimbee Loc: Dunedin, Florida, USA
 
I don't know enough to provide guidance or critique to others, so I don't comment on shots that I think fall short. However, if somebody's shot really speaks to me or I find it beautiful, I will say so. I've only posted a couple of my own shots so far and I want to post more so that I can learn - criticism is welcome, but it would be nice if it's constructive and kind!

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Jul 14, 2012 09:58:15   #
chebe48 Loc: Leicestershire England
 
too right.

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