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Dec 3, 2017 15:35:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
dreff wrote:
Very fine work.
We have these birds in great flocks here in NW Washington. I didn't realize they migrated that far south.

Thanks dreff! The cranes and geese hit this refuge and feeding area along the Rio Grande although I'm not that knowledgeable on either.

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Dec 3, 2017 15:36:20   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
suci wrote:
Excellent shots. Amazing detail and color.

Thank you suci! Glad you liked.

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Dec 3, 2017 15:36:55   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
samantha90 wrote:
Fantastic shots, beautiful subjects.

Thank you Samantha, glad you like!

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Dec 3, 2017 15:41:02   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Jerry Coupe wrote:
You have some very fine 'keepers."
One tip I read heard recently by a professional bird photographers at a presentation about shooting birds at Bosque, was to always have a second body with a wider zoom lens to have a chance at the flights of birds coming directly at you and passing overhead. It is very difficult to get these shots with a 300 and 2x converter.

The speaker also commented that trying to get into position with the sun at your back helps tremendously with your exposure. The birds will be more highlighted by either the sunrise or sunset and you aren't forced to use +EV adjustments to avoid silhouettes of the birds.

A third tip was to try and also be positioned with the wind at your back as the birds need the head wind to help with lift on their take offs.

Have a great trip to Bosque later this month.
You have some very fine 'keepers." br One t... (show quote)

Thanks Jerry! I had more than an hour drive to the refuge and didn't make a priority to be there as first light. Most of the suggestions I employed. I had two bodies but didn't mount a lens to the 2nd body. Maybe I'll add that change as well. I wasn't that "determined" on preparations and maybe that also impacted the results.

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Dec 3, 2017 15:42:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
jerrycrowson wrote:
Wow! Beautiful beautiful shots. So clear. I’m new at wildlife photography and I
Hope to get shots this nice. Just got a Tamron 150-600 G2 and I know it will get
me closer than my 300. I’m trying it out this week. Again I love your photos.

Jerry Crowson, Portland Oregon
jerry.crowson@gmail.com

Thank you Jerry! Best of luck with the new lens!

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Dec 3, 2017 16:30:22   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
Paul- stunning shots. I am heading for there in 2 weeks time. First time for me.

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Dec 3, 2017 16:48:28   #
J-SPEIGHT Loc: Akron, Ohio
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
These images are nearly a year old from my first serious foray into birds in flight (BIF). It was a bit of a frustration with very few keepers. More than a few lessons, hopefully, were learned as I prep for another visit closer to the end of year. Everything was from a tripod and gimbal mounted EOS 5DIII, EF 300 f/2.8L IS and EF Extender 2x III. More details are available from Flickr, if desired, by clicking the title or image directly. They'll also resize to your screen if this resolution is too large than your screen display.

Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge
Socorro County, New Mexico
Jan 2017

Snow Geese by Paul Sager, on Flickr
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4584/38080114934_47b8eb67e6_h.jpg

Snow Geese
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4554/38080111144_e3a88e0773_h.jpg

Snow Geese
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4524/38765646172_dc0c50a799_h.jpg

Sand Hill Crane
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4566/24923169048_c0385ee80b_h.jpg

Snow Geese
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/38765642352_0e8c64007e_h.jpg
These images are nearly a year old from my first s... (show quote)


Nice set Paul.

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Dec 3, 2017 17:16:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
suntouched wrote:
Paul- stunning shots. I am heading for there in 2 weeks time. First time for me.

Thank you suntouched! Have fun!

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Dec 3, 2017 17:16:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
J-SPEIGHT wrote:
Nice set Paul.

Thank you Jack!

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Dec 3, 2017 20:56:05   #
goraggio
 
Great BIF shots!
We just got back from our first try at Bosque and at BIF.
Here's one of the Blast OFF.



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Dec 3, 2017 22:33:56   #
tjjm Loc: Saint Louis, Mo.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Thanks Jerry! I had more than an hour drive to the refuge and didn't make a priority to be there as first light. Most of the suggestions I employed. I had two bodies but didn't mount a lens to the 2nd body. Maybe I'll add that change as well. I wasn't that "determined" on preparations and maybe that also impacted the results.


Love the detail you captured and a wonderful grouping. Thinking about my trip to Bosque and how suprised I was at the massive size of the flocks on the ponds. I know I was disappointed that in shooting the birds taking off I couldn't really get the full impact of the numbers. So for your thought on second camera I heartily agree but thinking something more in the 200-300 range might be a good backup. I look forward to seeing how it goes as I hope to be there in January myself. Tom

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Dec 4, 2017 00:27:28   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Thanks raymondh! These are all manual mode with the ISO fixed. In manual in this type of shooting, I adjust the shutterspeed against the fixed aperture and ISO. Looking at the image parameters, I not sure what drove my selections that January morning. I could have gone with a slower shutter and lower ISO even with the desired narrow aperture that I wanted to capture a group of birds in sharp focus. I shoot 100% BBF / AI Servo for static and moving subjects. I did start in lower light and maybe left the higher ISO as the light changed. But, none of those earlier images made it out of the <delete> bucket for memory jogs now late in the year ...
Thanks raymondh! These are all manual mode with th... (show quote)


Thank you!

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Dec 4, 2017 10:01:28   #
GWR100 Loc: England
 
Powerful picture, Good set.

Geoff

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Dec 4, 2017 10:04:06   #
patmalone51 Loc: Washington, DC., Montgomery County, MD
 
thanks for the info. I will try shutter of 1/1,250 or 1,000. problem with the faster shutter speeds in my limited experience is then the ISO goes up and more noise in the images. I'm looking forward to the trip and will post any decent images i get. meantime here are some hummingbirds i got last summer at Audubon in santa fe. https://www.flickr.com/gp/53535718@N06/5A54ua

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Dec 4, 2017 10:39:39   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
patmalone51 wrote:
thanks for the info. I will try shutter of 1/1,250 or 1,000. problem with the faster shutter speeds in my limited experience is then the ISO goes up and more noise in the images. I'm looking forward to the trip and will post any decent images i get. meantime here are some hummingbirds i got last summer at Audubon in santa fe. https://www.flickr.com/gp/53535718@N06/5A54ua

Patrick - My images are exposed as far to the right as possible without blowing the highlights in the white of the birds so that I start with relatively low noise (from a RAW file). Then, I finish in Topaz DeNoise6 after editing in LR. In manual I actively manage the exposure by adjusting the shutter speed up / down against the fixed ISO & aperture. The suggestions for BIF where birds are against the sky is to first meter on the sky for your desired exposure (ISO, aperture, SS) and then add a stop and begin shooting. While shooting, review results and adjust up / down the shutterspeed based on changes in the light or background such as birds against the ground vs the original meter against the sky. See also the comments made by others to shoot with the sun at your back so the birds are well-lit when flying at or parallel to your position.

Your hummingbirds are excellent with a minimum of blur that is rather artistic and not "too slow". I see LR6 in your EXIF data. I would say the noise pattern from your D810 should clean up nicely in LR6 alone or a more powerful noise plug-in. The most effective step in combating noise is a "bright" exposure that doesn't blow the highlights that can be adjusted downward rather than a too dark capture that requires "brightening" in post.

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