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Nov 18, 2017 17:51:21   #
NotAnselAdams Loc: Pueblo, CO
 
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon 70D) to a mirrorless Olympus OM-D EM-10. Weight was the issue. I like the Oly. I don't like the fact that, so far, Oly is not intuitive as it relates to pre-programing. It seems that each switch from auto, to A,S,M,P or SCN requires a completely different matrix set up. I hate to admit it but I have actually set down with the manual to try and figure it out. Can anyone give me a hint? "You tube" is too generic and does not get into that level of detail. There must be a simple solution I am not seeing. Not Ansel

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Nov 18, 2017 17:58:49   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Whenever I've gotten a new camera, or anything else for that matter, I make a cup of coffee, put on some familiar classical music, and read the manual through completely. Then, refill the cup, and, with the product in hand, read through each section until I understand each configuration and nuance. Then, with cameras, I'll set up a series of tests to determine the camera's capabilities.

The last camera I purchased was a D800e. That was a year and some months ago. Due to its similarity with the D700, I didn't need to read every detail. However, it was two weeks of testing prior to going out and photographing anything other than a Macbeth color chart.

You'll do best by simply working through the manual one step at a time.
--Bob
NotAnselAdams wrote:
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon 70D) to a mirrorless Olympus OM-D EM-10. Weight was the issue. I like the Oly. I don't like the fact that, so far, Oly is not intuitive as it relates to pre-programing. It seems that each switch from auto, to A,S,M,P or SCN requires a completely different matrix set up. I hate to admit it but I have actually set down with the manual to try and figure it out. Can anyone give me a hint? "You tube" is too generic and does not get into that level of detail. There must be a simple solution I am not seeing. Not Ansel
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Nov 18, 2017 18:21:43   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
NotAnselAdams wrote:
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon 70D) to a mirrorless Olympus OM-D EM-10. Weight was the issue. I like the Oly. I don't like the fact that, so far, Oly is not intuitive as it relates to pre-programing. It seems that each switch from auto, to A,S,M,P or SCN requires a completely different matrix set up. I hate to admit it but I have actually set down with the manual to try and figure it out. Can anyone give me a hint? "You tube" is too generic and does not get into that level of detail. There must be a simple solution I am not seeing. Not Ansel
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The Manual is indeed your best friend, especially if you switch camera Brands. Going from a Canon 70D to an Olympus mirrorless camera can be a new challenge. Especially, getting familiar with a different menu. Many camera manufacturers only give you a Guide, rather than a full complete Manual. You have to download the complete Manual. PDF. Some can have 500+ pages. If you would have bought the newer Canon 80D, it might have been easier to learn. Good luck. Enjoy your new Mirrorless camera.

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Nov 18, 2017 18:26:42   #
NotAnselAdams Loc: Pueblo, CO
 
Thanks all for the input. I really like Oly but understand there will be a learning curve during the transition from Canon to Olympus. I've downloaded the complete manual so now it is "read & experiment" time. Thank the powers that be I am not using film but can digitally delete to my hearts content. Not Ansel.

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Nov 18, 2017 18:44:51   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
NotAnselAdams wrote:
Thanks all for the input. I really like Oly but understand there will be a learning curve during the transition from Canon to Olympus. I've downloaded the complete manual so now it is "read & experiment" time. Thank the powers that be I am not using film but can digitally delete to my hearts content. Not Ansel.


Great.

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Nov 19, 2017 07:54:41   #
rayr
 
Hello: I recently bought the Olympus EM-1 Mark ll, and coming from a Nikon D750, was faced with the same issues as you, but there is help out there, and I am a visual person, not so much a manual reader. So here is my go to guy, and he is giving a tutorial on your EM 10. https://youtu.be/YjbIiflFsD0

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Nov 19, 2017 08:06:52   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
NotAnselAdams wrote:
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon 70D) to a mirrorless Olympus OM-D EM-10. Weight was the issue. I like the Oly. I don't like the fact that, so far, Oly is not intuitive as it relates to pre-programing. It seems that each switch from auto, to A,S,M,P or SCN requires a completely different matrix set up. I hate to admit it but I have actually set down with the manual to try and figure it out. Can anyone give me a hint? "You tube" is too generic and does not get into that level of detail. There must be a simple solution I am not seeing. Not Ansel
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon ... (show quote)


Having been a corporate trainer, there is another factor at play: not knocking Canon because the same thing applies to any system you are familiar with... but unlearning a current methodogy is the first component in learning a new methodogy. So it may be that the old way is not more intuitive....

Now I know this, but I still thought the Sony I borrowed was less intuitive compared to the Nikon way. I am now using a Fuji (actually switching between the two) so I empathize.

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Nov 19, 2017 08:32:14   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I had a Canon Rebel T3i for 4+ years. I bought the EM-10 in April and am still learning it. The sub-menus go on and on. Currently I can't figure out why my auto-focus point wanders

First, be sure you have the view (both LCD and viewfinder) set to display the real time exposure. That's a huge feature of mirrorless. Having the user manual as a pdf on your computer allows you to do quick word searches to find info more easily.

Now:

Instead of aperture and shutter priority, try using M, but with auto-ISO. I have ISO on a shortcut button, so if I don't want what the auto ISO is showing (you will adore that real time exposure now!), I can quickly change. The shutter speed and aperture buttons are the top knobs (or they will be once you find and set them in the menu, lol).

White balance is also available in the ISO/WB shortcut button, I keep on auto WB and shoot raw + jpg. I also have the 2x digital zoom on a shortcut button just for fun.

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Nov 19, 2017 08:56:33   #
NotAnselAdams Loc: Pueblo, CO
 
Hey Linda
Thanks for the guidance. You are right about the pdf, I think the author got paid by the word. I'm looking forward to setting the sort cut's you recommended. To all of you UHHer's, thanks. Not Ansel

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Nov 19, 2017 09:03:43   #
PeterBergh
 
rmalarz wrote:
... I make a cup of coffee, put on some familiar classical music, and read the manual through completely. Then, refill the cup ...
--Bob


I have a Canon 5DSR. For me, it would have to be a very large cup of coffee, since the 5DSR manual is 400+ pages!

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Nov 19, 2017 09:17:13   #
geezer7 Loc: Michigan
 
Regarding your focus point wandering. I had the same problem with my recently purchased Panasonic GM5 and isolated it to the touch-sensitive screen. I would inadvertently touch the screen and the auto-focus point would move. My alternatives were to live with the inconvenience or turn off the sensitivity. I don't know if there is a better solution.

Linda From Maine wrote:
I had a Canon Rebel T3i for 4+ years. I bought the EM-10 in April and am still learning it. The sub-menus go on and on. Currently I can't figure out why my auto-focus point wanders

First, be sure you have the view (both LCD and viewfinder) set to display the real time exposure. That's a huge feature of mirrorless. Having the user manual as a pdf on your computer allows you to do quick word searches to find info more easily.

Now:

Instead of aperture and shutter priority, try using M, but with auto-ISO. I have ISO on a shortcut button, so if I don't want what the auto ISO is showing (you will adore that real time exposure now!), I can quickly change. The shutter speed and aperture buttons are the top knobs (or they will be once you find and set them in the menu, lol).

White balance is also available in the ISO/WB shortcut button, I keep on auto WB and shoot raw + jpg. I also have the 2x digital zoom on a shortcut button just for fun.
I had a Canon Rebel T3i for 4+ years. I bought the... (show quote)

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Nov 19, 2017 10:20:59   #
BebuLamar
 
PeterBergh wrote:
I have a Canon 5DSR. For me, it would have to be a very large cup of coffee, since the 5DSR manual is 400+ pages!


So make a pot. Shouldn't be a problem with a mere 400 pages.

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Nov 19, 2017 11:16:35   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
NotAnselAdams wrote:
I recently switched from a full sized DSLR (Canon 70D) to a mirrorless Olympus OM-D EM-10. Weight was the issue. I like the Oly. I don't like the fact that, so far, Oly is not intuitive as it relates to pre-programing. It seems that each switch from auto, to A,S,M,P or SCN requires a completely different matrix set up. I hate to admit it but I have actually set down with the manual to try and figure it out. Can anyone give me a hint? "You tube" is too generic and does not get into that level of detail. There must be a simple solution I am not seeing. Not Ansel
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No, you are NOT Ansel, because Ansel would just switch back to Canon!!! LoL
SS

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Nov 19, 2017 11:28:10   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
SharpShooter wrote:
No, you are NOT Ansel, because Ansel would just switch back to Canon!!! LoL
SS


Hey Sharpie, while I didn’t know the man personally, I would guess that AA would pick the Fuji MF camera system. But just guessing.

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Nov 19, 2017 11:30:24   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I had a Canon Rebel T3i for 4+ years. I bought the EM-10 in April and am still learning it. The sub-menus go on and on. Currently I can't figure out why my auto-focus point wanders

First, be sure you have the view (both LCD and viewfinder) set to display the real time exposure. That's a huge feature of mirrorless. Having the user manual as a pdf on your computer allows you to do quick word searches to find info more easily.

Now:

Instead of aperture and shutter priority, try using M, but with auto-ISO. I have ISO on a shortcut button, so if I don't want what the auto ISO is showing (you will adore that real time exposure now!), I can quickly change. The shutter speed and aperture buttons are the top knobs (or they will be once you find and set them in the menu, lol).

White balance is also available in the ISO/WB shortcut button, I keep on auto WB and shoot raw + jpg. I also have the 2x digital zoom on a shortcut button just for fun.
I had a Canon Rebel T3i for 4+ years. I bought the... (show quote)


Neither of my cameras allow auto ISO in manual mode. Does yours? That is one issue some users complain about often.

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