Why Your Photos May Look Like Crap (Page 4): Was there any detail in the masonary walls, that had might have added some 'personality' to the building. I ran #1 thru the PS Express...

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

Was there any detail in the masonary walls, that had might have added some 'personality' to the building. I ran #1 thru the PS Express 'enhance' pre-set and found no detail and only a lightening.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Manglesphoto wrote:

Humm, those must be the images We DON'T see

So, to type that you have to see them....

Weird comment here.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Bob, I think most folks are now missing the point of your thread: DO NOT TRUST ACR CHOICES.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

yssirk123 wrote:

Your post processing is spot on - full auto never stood a chance.

Really? I’m looking on an iPhone 6+ and the second shot’s WB is way too warm. Look at the road. When was the last time asphalt look that color? Or white look yellowish? But it could just be this phone.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

John, the walls are slightly off-white with a texture.
--Bob

John_F wrote:

Was there any detail in the masonary walls, that had might have added some 'personality' to the building. I ran #1 thru the PS Express 'enhance' pre-set and found no detail and only a lightening.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

rmalarz wrote:

Both photographed using RAW. br br The inspiratio... (show quote)

All I see in those two photos are that you have overexposed the first one and the WB was off in blue direction. I always set up my cameras, after evaluating their product in auto, by tweaking the color toward a little more warmth, and leaving exposure comp at -0.5. The Nikons always needed this. My Fujis do a better job (in producing what I like) on auto than the Nikons do.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Rong..., also a bit about trusting the camera, as well. The other question is why the propensity of ACR to push things to the right. That would be interesting to know.
--Bob

Rongnongno wrote:

Bob, I think most folks are now missing the point of your thread: DO NOT TRUST ACR CHOICES.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

The last time I saw asphalt that color was just yesterday when I was standing at that corner taking the photograph.
--Bob

tdekany wrote:

Really? I’m looking on an iPhone 6+ and the second shot’s WB is way too warm. Look at the road. When was the last time asphalt look that color? Or white look yellowish? But it could just be this phone.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Cat, the first photograph was taken letting the camera decide on the exposure and letting ACR decide on the processing. Yes, in the first one, both, the camera and ACR, overexposure is quite noticeable. In my note posted with the photograph, I mentioned reading an article which provided tips on how to let ACR adjust where the sliders should be set. Upon trying that technique, I noticed ACR tends to push things to the right. So, this entire exercise was to compare the difference between letting the camera and ACR make the decision vs. letting the photographer make decisions.
--Bob

CatMarley wrote:

All I see in those two photos are that you have overexposed the first one and the WB was off in blue direction. I always set up my cameras, after evaluating their product in auto, by tweaking the color toward a little more warmth, and leaving exposure comp at -0.5. The Nikons always needed this. My Fujis do a better job (in producing what I like) on auto than the Nikons do.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

rmalarz wrote:

Cat, the first photograph was taken letting the ca... (show quote)

However your camera does not have to make the decisions it was purchased with. You can still let it make the big decisions but biased in the direction YOU choose. You just have to set the camera up to make decisions the way you want them made. My cameras let me bias the color toward the warmer or cooler and exposure can be biased in the direction I want. No two cameras are going to be exactly identical, and each of us is going to experience color slightly differently. Your camera manufacturer recognized that you may not want to accept exactly what the camera left the factory with, and gave you the ability to set it up to take photos using the built in algorithms but biased in the direction you prefer. I think if you set up your exposure to -0.5 and your color to +1 red +1yellow, your auto exposure would be dead on! And if you can't do that with your camera, get a Fuji. You can set it any way you like it!

tdekany Loc: Oregon

rmalarz wrote:

The last time I saw asphalt that color was just yesterday when I was standing at that corner taking the photograph.
--Bob

As I said in that same post, that it could just be my phone, but I own a detailing business and I am confident to say that I know car colors. None of those car colors are real in the second picture.

Sorry Bob! The picture that you were in total control of is not accurate color wise.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

The post is discussing exposure.
--Bob

tdekany wrote:

As I said in that same post, that it could just be my phone, but I own a detailing business and I am confident to say that I know car colors. None of those car colors are real in the second picture.

Sorry Bob! The picture that you were in total control of is not accurate color wise.

CatMarley Loc: North Carolina

rmalarz wrote:

The post is discussing exposure.
--Bob

But the finished example was shifted to orange. I just used Photoimpact 10 level control on your raw auto image and got a better result. And that could have been set up in the initial camera setup.

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AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio

I wonder at times when everybody has their own idea of two pictures as to which one looks better. No two monitors produce the same contrast, color, sharpness, or brightness. On top of that everybody individually sees color a little different. How do We get around all that?

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Bob, good luck with the this or that should be like this or that argumentation with folks who do not quite understand what this thread is about...

As to trust a camera... You know I do not, even the D500 since it does things I do not understand (correcting UWB????) I am still stumped on that one. I WANT MY GREEN!!!!!